AnonymousBosch. Smart guy.
Only if you didn't want to get laid.Easy_C said:So if I get laid does that mean I’m involuntary incelibate?
Bananaman711 said:Are we gonna end up like Japan, nation of asexuals and incels?
Problems is that today's women lack sex drive, they can go months and years without sex with a man , all their emotional and physical needs can be satisfied with Instagram,dildo and pets
TheFinalEpic said:I feel like we were talking about this 4 or 5 years ago, once you take out the controls on women's sexuality, you see a capitalistic skewing of who's having sex as a man and who isn't. Women are going to go after the top x% of men, and that doesn't necessarily mean for marriage, but for banging etc. So, it's never been a better time to be a top tier male in history, but it's also probably never been a worse time to be a bottom tier male (at least in history, you could likely count on locking down some sort of decent woman and having a family).
Men will continue to opt out, making it easier for men that are actively bettering themselves and working towards their visions. If you're not a top tier male, focus on yourself for 6 months to a year and see the difference. You will be surprised how easy it is for a man to jump up in the sexual market place by dressing well, having game, money, and a decent body.
Everything is a cycle, you will see the trend reverse when women realize that getting banged by a bunch of dudes that don't care about them isn't the path to happiness. Call me excessively positive, but I've seen this in the past year or so more and more.
Dalaran1991 said:Someone asks how it's going in Europe.
In France it's pretty hard to find statistics concerning sex, but according to this source the number of sexual rapports per month is 8.7, and is the same for men and women.
https://sante-medecine.journaldesfe...exuels-frequence-des-rapports-et-statistiques
My gut instinct is to scream bullshit, but after 5 years here I think I know better. It's a different scene in France and in Europe generally, they have a lot more open attitude regarding sex in the sense that it is not such a big deal. In Paris you either feel like everybody is getting laid or nobody is getting laid at all. The French men in Paris however behave in a very girly and bitchy way, and that kinda works. In WIA's word, chicks reward you for behaving like a hot chick, and the guys here are very good at snide comments, backstabbing and rumor mongering.
European also travels A LOT more than Americans, and that solves a lot of problem regarding sex.
Seriously though, the most obvious solution for most American guys is to simply pick up a passport.
Delta said:This isn't at all surprising. I've noticed, anecdotally, that young women's minds have been absolutely poisoned when it comes to men, dating, and relationships. And while it's easy to point the finger at feminism, the syndrome I'm describing affects literally all single young women I've ever encountered, feminist or anti-feminist, cunt or good human being. I've never once come across a counterexample. Correct me if you've seen any exceptions, but in my experience, all single women below age 35 share these three traits:
1. Utter lack of desire or urgency to be with a man. I have a habit of, every now and then, social media stalking my exes, girls I'd dated briefly, and girls I'd gone out with once or twice and was interested in, to see what they're up to. Yeah yeah yeah it's not healthy or whatever, sue me. Anyway, what I find the vast majority of the time is that months or even years after my time with the girl is up, there's no sign of a man anywhere on her social media. It's funny because we tend to project our habits onto women and assume we get rejected because another guy came along that she liked better. But the reality is, usually you're not losing out to another guy, you're losing out to... no one. Her 'better deal' isn't a more attractive man, it's singledom. I know a girl in her 20's who literally has never been with a man in her entire life. She's cute and pleasant. But her attitude about men is more or less "meh, I'm happy as is." Can you imagine a desirable man choosing to forego pussy his entire life because it's just not important to him?
Do you ever hear a woman verbally express urgency about finding a man? On the other hand, how often do you hear late 20's women, past their peak and on the precipice of their looks fading, talk about how much they want to live abroad for a couple years or something equally antithetical to settling down with a man?
Aside from anecdotes: We all know Tinder has absurd M:F ratios, but did you know that the relationship oriented dating sites are not much better? It's not just that men try harder to get sex; men this day in age are also trying much harder to find love.
2. Extreme, unreasonable pickiness. I won't get into hypergamy because it's already so heavily discussed, but there's also another dimension to women's pickiness: demanding an exact image match. If you meet girls on swiping apps, ask them about their experience, and I guarantee they'll happily admit that they snap reject 99% of the guys on there. And how often do you hear girls express ridiculous, totally unnecessary requirements for any guy they'd consider? (e.g. Must be a dog person, must be a cat person, must be a feminist, must be a conservative, must be a Christian, must be an atheist, must be older than me, must not be more than a couple years older than me, must be at least 6' tall, must love trying ethnic foods... the list could go on forever.)
3. Extreme hostility toward, and over-criticalness of men who are interested in them. Pro-tip: If you're ever chatting with a girl and struggling to find a topic she's interested in, change the subject to "weirdos" who try to get with her. Without fail, her passions will suddenly be awoken as she giddily disparages the "nice" but "weird" guys in her social circle who are trying to get in her pants, along with the "creeps" who open her on the street, try to dance with her at the bar, and message her on dating apps. Often she'll criticize a half-decent opener some guy used on her as though it was criminally bad, even though you and her both know she wouldn't do any better if she was tasked with starting conversations with the opposite sex. I don't think I've ever met a girl who didn't believe that the men who wanted her were all losers who were way beneath her.
These three go hand-in-hand. 2 and 3 are the result of 1. The conclusion is inescapable, and I'm far from the first person on here to state it: The safety, security, and prosperity of modern western society has all but eliminated women's need for a man.
a beer is enough said:...
We'd be better off as a society if there were 50% less men around, that's just the honest truth.
CynicalContrarian said:a beer is enough said:...
We'd be better off as a society if there were 50% less men around, that's just the honest truth.
The way matters are progressing. Give it time...