Shedding from the vaccinated

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Chicken
"Study intervention is defined as any investigational intervention(s), marketed product(s),
placebo, medical device(s), or study procedure(s) intended to be administered to a study
participant according to the study protocol. "


I have read it closely, and I think they refer to covid "in the wild" so to speak, when they say exposed to the study intervention. (meaning infection and not the vaccines) I could be wrong, but everything other than that seems absurd.

"...Exposure During Pregnancy, An EDP occurs if:

• A female participant is found to be pregnant while receiving or after discontinuing study intervention. (mother to child in utero)

• A male participant who is receiving or has discontinued study intervention exposes a female partner prior to or around the time of conception. (This one is a bit tricky to explain I agree)

• A female is found to be pregnant while being exposed or having been exposed to study intervention due to environmental exposure. Below are examples of environmental exposure during pregnancy:

• A female family member or healthcare provider reports that she is pregnant after having been exposed to the study intervention by inhalation or skin contact. (natural infection)

• A male family member or healthcare provider who has been exposed to the study intervention by inhalation or skin contact then exposes his female partner prior to or around the time of conception..." (natural infection)

It`s a good find, but I`m not quite sure the guy you linked to is interpreting it correctly.
 

Eusebius Erasmus

Pelican
Orthodox
With respect, I think you are wrong. I say this because I have seen information about people who are vaxxed carrying up to several thousand times higher viral load. This is part of the reason why when they get a breakthrough infection it is much more serious, or so I have heard. It stands to reason they would be much more likely to spread viral particles or whatever. I will see if I can find and provide a source for these claims.

Edit: Found a couple of articles about what I mentioned above. Although it's questionable if we can trust any mainstream sources at all anymore.

Higher viral load with delta variant:
Vaxxed people carry and spread delta variant:

I have personally experienced this btw, but I am not prepared to say it is conclusive. There is a certain person who I know to be vaxxed and the last two times I came in close/prolonged contact with them I became sick for 1-2 days afterwards. Symptoms were similar to a mild cold, runny nose, itchy/watery eyes, slight congestion, LOTS of sneezing (like seriously a ridiculous amount, 6-12 times in a row at certain points, it was miserable).

Allergy pills didn't help but interestingly at one point I took a zicam rapidmelt and within 15-30 minutes most of the symptoms disappeared and I felt 90% better. The next morning the symptoms returned but not as severely, and by the next day I was fine again. I take a ton of supplements and immune boosters and virtually never ever get sick, so I definitely feel like something strange is going on.
The mechanism isn’t shedding from the vaccine though. The mechanism is:

vaccine —> compromised immune system —> higher viral load —> virus transmits to you
 

soli.deo.gloria

Sparrow
Orthodox Inquirer
Some kind of toxins are being shed but what exactly it's anybody's guess at this point!
Yeah when I had a reaction to a certain individual I have no idea if that was spike proteins or virus particles or what. I just know that I felt slightly sick for a day or so afterwards (and Zinc knocked it out virtually immediately).
 

hkhathaj

Woodpecker
The claim is that the vaccine causes shedding of spike proteins. This is false.
Why is it false? Is it not possible at all? Is it somehow proven not to happen?

If there is shedding it can be these things:

* Higher viral load of other kinds (do viruses even exist?)
* Higher viral load of Covid (does Covid even exist?)
* mRNA creates spike protein that leaves the cells and then are shedded (do spike proteins even exist?)
* the graphene or the lipid nano-particles are shedded
* or anything else

I find the spike protein version the most plausible.
 

Eusebius Erasmus

Pelican
Orthodox
Why is it false? Is it not possible at all? Is it somehow proven not to happen?

If there is shedding it can be these things:

* Higher viral load of other kinds (do viruses even exist?)
* Higher viral load of Covid (does Covid even exist?)
* mRNA creates spike protein that leaves the cells and then are shedded (do spike proteins even exist?)
* the graphene or the lipid nano-particles are shedded
* or anything else

I find the spike protein version the most plausible.
These are not the only choices or mechanisms that are plausible.

Even if spike proteins were shed, it is not clear how that poses a danger.
 

tiikaa

Pigeon
Just thinking out of sheer logic: if vaccinated ppl would really "shed" their spike proteins to the ppl around them (like us) and these proteins would be dangerous for us.. Just imagine how dangerous they would be for the vaxxed person who has them inside her body!! But most of the vaxxed ppl I know are still feeling fine (and I live together with vaxxed ppl and noticed no difference since they got vaxxed with Pfizer) .. this claim is super false
 

Maddox

Robin
These are not the only choices or mechanisms that are plausible.

Even if spike proteins were shed, it is not clear how that poses a danger.

It's also possible that the transmission/shedding could just pose a danger to women. In fact, the only thing I've heard from doctors like Sherry Tenpenny is that women's periods were being altered.
 

soli.deo.gloria

Sparrow
Orthodox Inquirer
Just thinking out of sheer logic: if vaccinated ppl would really "shed" their spike proteins to the ppl around them (like us) and these proteins would be dangerous for us.. Just imagine how dangerous they would be for the vaxxed person who has them inside her body!! But most of the vaxxed ppl I know are still feeling fine (and I live together with vaxxed ppl and noticed no difference since they got vaxxed with Pfizer) .. this claim is super false
Just try to remember something. That may be your personal experience, and I do not doubt it, but it doesn't mean everyone is the same. We don't all react the same way to a virus or a vaccine or environmental stuff, etc.
 

Easy_C

Peacock
Whatever they're shedding, if they are, isn't normal spike proteins. Typically (according to an acquaintance with an immunology background) spike proteins are broken down by enzymes in the blood stream. If they're shedding it's not just virus spike proteins.
 

soli.deo.gloria

Sparrow
Orthodox Inquirer
Whatever they're shedding, if they are, isn't normal spike proteins. Typically (according to an acquaintance with an immunology background) spike proteins are broken down by enzymes in the blood stream. If they're shedding it's not just virus spike proteins.
Could really be almost anything. Doesn't even have to be related to the coof or even spike proteins. A lot of people are just assuming that because that is the purported reason for the "vaccine". I don't like to make unfounded claims but we know at the upper level they are liars and murderers (and worse) so God only knows what could actually be in those injections.
 

Padouk

Sparrow
Just thinking out of sheer logic: if vaccinated ppl would really "shed" their spike proteins to the ppl around them (like us) and these proteins would be dangerous for us.. Just imagine how dangerous they would be for the vaxxed person who has them inside her body!! But most of the vaxxed ppl I know are still feeling fine (and I live together with vaxxed ppl and noticed no difference since they got vaxxed with Pfizer) .. this claim is super false

Many of the initial shot were/are placebo. That's one explanation.

But even with the real jabs, the receiver might be feeling fine yet the damage is being done. The body gets used to being intoxicated. It develops a tolerance which initially leads enervation of the organism - the first phase of disease. No extreme physical symptoms are present. It's similar to when you try a cigarette for the first time. There's an initial brief reaction and then gradually you feel nothing, you even start to crave it.

Another point, I'd like to make. is that the effects of shedding will be more pronounced in healthier individuals as the body's nervous system is not yet worn out and more reactive.
 
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