Shedding from the vaccinated

Linead

Chicken
"Study intervention is defined as any investigational intervention(s), marketed product(s),
placebo, medical device(s), or study procedure(s) intended to be administered to a study
participant according to the study protocol. "


I have read it closely, and I think they refer to covid "in the wild" so to speak, when they say exposed to the study intervention. (meaning infection and not the vaccines) I could be wrong, but everything other than that seems absurd.

"...Exposure During Pregnancy, An EDP occurs if:

• A female participant is found to be pregnant while receiving or after discontinuing study intervention. (mother to child in utero)

• A male participant who is receiving or has discontinued study intervention exposes a female partner prior to or around the time of conception. (This one is a bit tricky to explain I agree)

• A female is found to be pregnant while being exposed or having been exposed to study intervention due to environmental exposure. Below are examples of environmental exposure during pregnancy:

• A female family member or healthcare provider reports that she is pregnant after having been exposed to the study intervention by inhalation or skin contact. (natural infection)

• A male family member or healthcare provider who has been exposed to the study intervention by inhalation or skin contact then exposes his female partner prior to or around the time of conception..." (natural infection)

It`s a good find, but I`m not quite sure the guy you linked to is interpreting it correctly.
 

Eusebius Erasmus

Pelican
Orthodox
With respect, I think you are wrong. I say this because I have seen information about people who are vaxxed carrying up to several thousand times higher viral load. This is part of the reason why when they get a breakthrough infection it is much more serious, or so I have heard. It stands to reason they would be much more likely to spread viral particles or whatever. I will see if I can find and provide a source for these claims.

Edit: Found a couple of articles about what I mentioned above. Although it's questionable if we can trust any mainstream sources at all anymore.

Higher viral load with delta variant:
Vaxxed people carry and spread delta variant:

I have personally experienced this btw, but I am not prepared to say it is conclusive. There is a certain person who I know to be vaxxed and the last two times I came in close/prolonged contact with them I became sick for 1-2 days afterwards. Symptoms were similar to a mild cold, runny nose, itchy/watery eyes, slight congestion, LOTS of sneezing (like seriously a ridiculous amount, 6-12 times in a row at certain points, it was miserable).

Allergy pills didn't help but interestingly at one point I took a zicam rapidmelt and within 15-30 minutes most of the symptoms disappeared and I felt 90% better. The next morning the symptoms returned but not as severely, and by the next day I was fine again. I take a ton of supplements and immune boosters and virtually never ever get sick, so I definitely feel like something strange is going on.
The mechanism isn’t shedding from the vaccine though. The mechanism is:

vaccine —> compromised immune system —> higher viral load —> virus transmits to you
 

soli.deo.gloria

Woodpecker
Orthodox Inquirer
Gold Member
Some kind of toxins are being shed but what exactly it's anybody's guess at this point!
Yeah when I had a reaction to a certain individual I have no idea if that was spike proteins or virus particles or what. I just know that I felt slightly sick for a day or so afterwards (and Zinc knocked it out virtually immediately).
 

hkhathaj

Woodpecker
Other Christian
The claim is that the vaccine causes shedding of spike proteins. This is false.
Why is it false? Is it not possible at all? Is it somehow proven not to happen?

If there is shedding it can be these things:

* Higher viral load of other kinds (do viruses even exist?)
* Higher viral load of Covid (does Covid even exist?)
* mRNA creates spike protein that leaves the cells and then are shedded (do spike proteins even exist?)
* the graphene or the lipid nano-particles are shedded
* or anything else

I find the spike protein version the most plausible.
 

Eusebius Erasmus

Pelican
Orthodox
Why is it false? Is it not possible at all? Is it somehow proven not to happen?

If there is shedding it can be these things:

* Higher viral load of other kinds (do viruses even exist?)
* Higher viral load of Covid (does Covid even exist?)
* mRNA creates spike protein that leaves the cells and then are shedded (do spike proteins even exist?)
* the graphene or the lipid nano-particles are shedded
* or anything else

I find the spike protein version the most plausible.
These are not the only choices or mechanisms that are plausible.

Even if spike proteins were shed, it is not clear how that poses a danger.
 

tiikaa

Pigeon
Just thinking out of sheer logic: if vaccinated ppl would really "shed" their spike proteins to the ppl around them (like us) and these proteins would be dangerous for us.. Just imagine how dangerous they would be for the vaxxed person who has them inside her body!! But most of the vaxxed ppl I know are still feeling fine (and I live together with vaxxed ppl and noticed no difference since they got vaxxed with Pfizer) .. this claim is super false
 

Maddox

Woodpecker
Protestant
These are not the only choices or mechanisms that are plausible.

Even if spike proteins were shed, it is not clear how that poses a danger.

It's also possible that the transmission/shedding could just pose a danger to women. In fact, the only thing I've heard from doctors like Sherry Tenpenny is that women's periods were being altered.
 

soli.deo.gloria

Woodpecker
Orthodox Inquirer
Gold Member
Just thinking out of sheer logic: if vaccinated ppl would really "shed" their spike proteins to the ppl around them (like us) and these proteins would be dangerous for us.. Just imagine how dangerous they would be for the vaxxed person who has them inside her body!! But most of the vaxxed ppl I know are still feeling fine (and I live together with vaxxed ppl and noticed no difference since they got vaxxed with Pfizer) .. this claim is super false
Just try to remember something. That may be your personal experience, and I do not doubt it, but it doesn't mean everyone is the same. We don't all react the same way to a virus or a vaccine or environmental stuff, etc.
 

Easy_C

Peacock
Whatever they're shedding, if they are, isn't normal spike proteins. Typically (according to an acquaintance with an immunology background) spike proteins are broken down by enzymes in the blood stream. If they're shedding it's not just virus spike proteins.
 

soli.deo.gloria

Woodpecker
Orthodox Inquirer
Gold Member
Whatever they're shedding, if they are, isn't normal spike proteins. Typically (according to an acquaintance with an immunology background) spike proteins are broken down by enzymes in the blood stream. If they're shedding it's not just virus spike proteins.
Could really be almost anything. Doesn't even have to be related to the coof or even spike proteins. A lot of people are just assuming that because that is the purported reason for the "vaccine". I don't like to make unfounded claims but we know at the upper level they are liars and murderers (and worse) so God only knows what could actually be in those injections.
 

Padouk

Kingfisher
Non-Christian
Just thinking out of sheer logic: if vaccinated ppl would really "shed" their spike proteins to the ppl around them (like us) and these proteins would be dangerous for us.. Just imagine how dangerous they would be for the vaxxed person who has them inside her body!! But most of the vaxxed ppl I know are still feeling fine (and I live together with vaxxed ppl and noticed no difference since they got vaxxed with Pfizer) .. this claim is super false

Many of the initial shot were/are placebo. That's one explanation.

But even with the real jabs, the receiver might be feeling fine yet the damage is being done. The body gets used to being intoxicated. It develops a tolerance which initially leads enervation of the organism - the first phase of disease. No extreme physical symptoms are present. It's similar to when you try a cigarette for the first time. There's an initial brief reaction and then gradually you feel nothing, you even start to crave it.

Another point, I'd like to make. is that the effects of shedding will be more pronounced in healthier individuals as the body's nervous system is not yet worn out and more reactive.
 

Don Quixote

Pelican
Orthodox Inquirer
I dont want to start an huge discussion about germ vs terrain theory here, but based on what was revealed to us in the last weeks i think that the vaxxed are actually shedding parasites. The t.Cruzi that was find in the Pfizer vial is one of them. Maybe there are more. This parasite, the t.cruzi causes heart damage along with others skin diseases and it is responsible for the chagas disease in south America.

Are we 'coincidence theorists' ?
Why the people who had taken the Pfizer Vaxx are showing the same symptoms (myocarditis, pericarditis) that we see in people with the chagas disease, the same disease caused by the same parasite who was found inside the Pfizer vial ?

Most of the 'víruses' that were described in the last 80 years were never isolated properly. They only isolated particles that were actually exosomes, parts of our human genome.
I was called dvmb by some old members of the forum on another thread just because i told them that the "sars-cov2" were never isolated. It is the truth, even the CDC and the Wuhan lab scientists have admitted this. The PCR test cannot identify the virus. The PCR test can be triggered by exosomes and other human genome particles. There is no way to detect viruses properly using the PCR.

So the shedding coming from the vaxxed cannot be from the "viral load", since they dont have this "load".

The spike protein cannot survive outside of the body much longer. Cell proteins are extreme fragile and can be easily destroyed by heat and light. So i dont believe they are shedding only the protein. I think they are shedding way more than just the (s)-protein.

Most of the diseases transmitted from one human to another are transmitted by parasites that we share with our fellow humans.
This explain why some people who became ill by working in proximity with the vaxxed were easily healed by the ivermectin.

I have 100% sure that this parasite, the t cruzi who is also the responsible for the chagas disease (parasite induced myocarditis) is causing the heart damage induced by the Pfizer vaccine. Since he was only observed in the Pfizer vials and not in the others explain why only the pfizer vaccine is causing heart damage.

Dr lee merrit, who is unvaxxed reported in her last interview that she was working next to the vaxxed and became ill, symptons of respiratory and cardiac disease. She took the ivermectin and it is now 100% healed.
Ivermectin is never used as treatment for Chagas disease. If it was, Chagas would not be such a big problem. Can you provide a link to where this parasite was found in the Pfizer vial?

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/16444412/.
 

Eusebius Erasmus

Pelican
Orthodox
How can you be so confident?

One argument that makes sense is that the elites would lose control... but maybe they know that and have protocols ready to brace for 'the next one' anyway.
The vaccinated aren’t radioactive. Even if they ‘shed’ spike proteins, these cannot harm you any more than them shedding skin cells.

The whole ‘shedding from the vaxxed’ narrative is just a way to stoke fear among the unvaccinated.
 

lysander

Chicken
Agnostic
Here’s my anecdote. I am not vaxxed and can’t remember the last time I had a nosebleed. Last week I had an indoor lunch with several vaxxed people. The morning after, I awoke to my bedsheets covered in blood from a nosebleed. I live in a temperate coastal area that pretty much always has moist air and rarely requires use of HVAC, so it wasn’t a dry air thing. The lunch with vaxxed people was the only “unique” thing I did that day. There are lots of reports of nosebleeds as a vaxx side effect.
 
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