SHOCKING BUT SO TRUE : The vast majority of guys fall in love with MAKEUP

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uni said:
ImmoralPsychology said:
If makeup didn't exist, the skin problem that are common to humans would be much more visible. Girls use makeup often to cover up zits and other blemishes. Then they use blush for a more youthful appearance. Etc., etc.

Painting our faces seems to be part of every culture in the world and has been for eons.

That's not true. Guys have not been using makeup and the men stay younger looking much longer than women do.

ImmoralPsychology sounds like a girl in disguise when she writes
what she wrote above. She knows a lot about industrial chemical cosmetics
so he is either a woman, either he really gets turned on only by the variate range of chemical products that are women makeup...

Sigh. I'll never understand why some people actually choose to remain ignorant.
 

uni

 
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I gave only rational, real-life and nature arguments,
while unfortunately you ImmoralPsychology only resorted to calling names and insults, and you have not given arguments for anything... :(

But in Asia, guys also use makeup to make themselves "pretty"
and sleep with other guys.

They are ladyboys, but they never say they are guys... until the tourists
unfortunately discover the real truth while in bed with them... :(

If majority of men would not be so much lured simply only by the
shining chemical "beauty" of the industrial makeup,
ladyboys would never fool almost all the men so well:

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uni said:
I gave only rational, real-life and nature arguments,
while unfortunately you ImmoralPsychology only resorted to calling names and insults, and you have not given arguments for anything... :(

I did what now? Please quote exactly where I called you names and insulted you. My last post explained why women wear makeup and that it has a strong psychological foundation and wasn't even a reply to you. My reply to you, regarding Zuckerberg's wife, while I admit might have been a bit harsh with the swearing, did not insult you. I was tired of these types of examples and my frustration came out in that post. To use a multi-billionaire's ugly wife as proof that money can't help a guy without game is just plain wrong. He chose her. Maybe he loves her. Maybe he trusts her. Maybe he just doesn't care about having a model for a girlfriend. Maybe a lot of things. But if there is one thing I would bet my entire life savings on right now, it's that Mark Zuckerberg can get his pick of model-quality looking girls with the snap of a finger. If you doubt that, then you need more experience with women.

Meanwhile, your reply to me was exactly what you accused me of doing (which ironically, I didn't even do):

ImmoralPsychology sounds like a girl in disguise when she writes
what she wrote above. She knows a lot about industrial chemical cosmetics
so he is either a woman, either he really gets turned on only by the variate range of chemical products that are women makeup...

Resorting to ad hominem attacks doesn't help you prove your point one bit. Sure, the inexperienced high school kids on the forum may fall for it but I have no doubt that the guys on here whose opinion I give a shit about would see right through you.

That's not true. Guys have not been using makeup and the men stay younger looking much longer than women do.

And by the way, nature which is really good looking, always keeps the flowers, animals and everything else in its natural form,
and natural form always looks very good for the last many millions of years: forests, rivers, animals, cats, lions, all the animals and the plants
look good naturally, without any need for overpaint or makeup.

The only exception is somehow the very ugly women that with the use of the industrial chemicals that are makeup,
manage to attract good quality guys that get fooled and cheated by the industrial chemical makeup...

Men have never used makeup? What do you call war paint used by Native Indians? Throughout Africa and in plenty of indigenous cultures even to this day? Western societies shun makeup on men now, yes, but even in western societies, men wore plenty of makeup and wigs too in the past.

You seem to misunderstand why women wear makeup in the first place. I pointed it out in my last post. Reread it. They do so to cover up blemished skin. They use it to mimic youthful and superior genetic features. The rose blush of a young girl's cheeks that happens naturally at 16 doesn't at 25 or 35 or 45. It's not just "very ugly" women that use makeup. It's anyone that wants to hide their flaws and highlight their best features and mimic a beautiful woman's more attractive attributes.

And the kicker is that this entire thread that YOU started is using as a premise, "look how ugly women are without makeup". You're specifically pointing out that women often only look attractive with makeup and that without it, guys wouldn't touch them! Do you not see the contradiction between that and "we should leave nature alone"???

How many of the women posted here do you think look better without their makeup? Tell me which ones. I'm curious to know. Your point that men are being deceived by makeup is not disputed. I tried to explain to you *why* a woman wears makeup, and you can't seem to grasp that. If you were one of these "ugly" women, you wouldn't wear makeup when you could use it so easily to your advantage? Sure you would.

Only women who have nice skin and are naturally very attractive could compete without makeup, but even then, when applied artfully, it has a decorative effect which many men find appealing.

You need to watch Desmond Morris's The Naked Ape. Go watch it before starting threads based on ignorance and misinformation.

Then, when you're done with that, come back here and explain to me the difference between wearing makeup and how deceptive it is, and getting your teeth straightened with braces (which hides the fact that your genes gave you gnarly teeth). Or when a guy slathers zit cream all over himself to remove pimples from his bacteria-infested skin which, if left up to nature would make him a lot less attractive to women as a mating partner. Or Rogaine. Or any number of other tactics men use to present a better version of themselves to women.

On one hand you're complaining about women using makeup and that they should be "natural". On the other, you're saying you don't find them attractive without it. I hate to burst your bubble but if you limited yourself to the women who are still stunningly beautiful without any makeup, you'd be single for the rest of your life. You're living in a masturbatory fantasy world where a woman who has better genetics than 99.99% of the female population would choose YOU as mate.
 
uni said:
They are ladyboys, but they never say they are guys... until the tourists
unfortunately discover the real truth while in bed with them... :(


If majority of men would not be so much lured simply only by the
shining chemical "beauty" of the industrial makeup,
ladyboys would never fool almost all the men so well:

Now I understand why you're so strongly against makeup.

I'm sorry this happened to you, uni. I can't imagine how it must feel to reach down and grab a handful of wiener while you're getting blown by a dude. No wonder you're so angry.

I've never had that problem as I can spot the ladyboys a mile away. And if I ever found myself wondering whether it's a ladyboy or not, then she is obviously not a very attractive woman to being with, so I'd pass in that situation.

Perhaps instead of relying on makeup, you should concentrate on learning the biological differences that make men and women different. I'm not attracted to manly features in the first place though, so maybe that's why you got fooled?
 

Therapsid

Pelican
ImmoralPsychology said:
On one hand you're complaining about women using makeup and that they should be "natural". On the other, you're saying you don't find them attractive without it. I hate to burst your bubble but if you limited yourself to the women who are still stunningly beautiful without any makeup, you'd be single for the rest of your life. You're living in a masturbatory fantasy world where a woman who has better genetics than 99.99% of the female population would choose YOU as mate.

I have sympathy with most of what you're saying. For example, yes men in many eras and societies have worn makeup. Guys who doubt this fact and are too lazy to do research should watch period pieces like Amadeus or Barry Lyndon.

However, at the same time, as recently as the Victorian era makeup was a taboo among respectable women. A girl who wore makeup was virtually advertising that she was a harlot.

These trends change over time. But since makeup was a luxury for most poor people of both sexes throughout history, it's a fact that most young women usually did not wear extensive makeup. Go to any very poor country or region and this quickly becomes apparent, even today.

Personally, I like it when girls wear makeup. All but the most attractive girls look better with a modest amount. And the rest appear much more attractive with it. Guys who complain that much about girls having the advantage should consider lopping off their balls and trying makeup themselves. If I'm not mistaken Mystery and other so-called pickup artists have used it.
 
Therapsid said:
ImmoralPsychology said:
On one hand you're complaining about women using makeup and that they should be "natural". On the other, you're saying you don't find them attractive without it. I hate to burst your bubble but if you limited yourself to the women who are still stunningly beautiful without any makeup, you'd be single for the rest of your life. You're living in a masturbatory fantasy world where a woman who has better genetics than 99.99% of the female population would choose YOU as mate.

I have sympathy with most of what you're saying. For example, yes men in many eras and societies have worn makeup. Guys who doubt this fact and are too lazy to do research should watch period pieces like Amadeus or Barry Lyndon.

However, at the same time, as recently as the Victorian era makeup was a taboo among respectable women. A girl who wore makeup was virtually advertising that she was a harlot.

These trends change over time. But since makeup was a luxury for most poor people of both sexes throughout history, it's a fact that most young women usually did not wear extensive makeup. Go to any very poor country or region and this quickly becomes apparent, even today.

Personally, I like it when girls wear makeup. All but the most attractive girls look better with a modest amount. And the rest appear much more attractive with it. Guys who complain that much about girls having the advantage should consider lopping off their balls and trying makeup themselves. If I'm not mistaken Mystery and other so-called pickup artists have used it.

Exactly. A 'modest' amount of makeup.

This thread is stupid. 95% of the before and after pics of women show women who are ugly even with makeup on. Not as ugly, perhaps, but still unattractive. This thread is focusing on women who try to hide their ugliness with makeup, and women who just put way too much on, and it ignores the other 90% of the population of women that use makeup to highlight features and conceal their blemishes. If this thread were representative of reality, you'd never see a hot girl at the beach (because they all need makeup to look good, right?)

The solution to this is not to get angry about women wearing makeup. Some makeup can help a good-looking woman look great. Not much different from a guy wearing a suit instead of a torn t-shirt and tattered jeans. The solution is to learn how to see through the makeup and see the features behind it. For a bang, I don't care so much about makeup, but the women I've dated always looked good without it because I can see through it. It never served to hide their faces, only to decorate.
 

uni

 
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ImmoralPsychology said:
I did what now? Please quote exactly where I called you names and insulted you.

Sure, it is very easy, you called me "ignorant" only because in my opinion
we should not be blinded by the chemical makeup when
evaluating a girl.

ImmoralPsychology said:
My reply to you, regarding Zuckerberg's wife, while I admit might have been a bit harsh with the swearing, did not insult you.

I think this subject is very sensitive for you, from your own
personal reasons, by you are the one overreacting, insulting,
calling names, and acting oversensitive on a subject
where people have been presenting objective arguments and examples.

ImmoralPsychology said:
You need to watch Desmond Morris's The Naked Ape. Go watch it before starting threads based on ignorance and misinformation.

You again get very agressive and you call "ignorance"
the simple debating of a subject, that maybe it is somehow "taboo" for you
and it gets you very angry, that you constantly resort to insulting
just because many other guys do not share your opinion...
that is sad...

ImmoralPsychology said:
You're living in a masturbatory fantasy world where a woman who has better genetics than 99.99% of the female population would choose YOU as mate.

And now again you are insulting, even if you don't know me at all,
again and again, you simply cannot stop...:(
 

cardguy

 
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An earlier poster made a good point. Zuckerberg's wife may be ugly - but if Zuckerberg wanted to he could bang a hundred '10's' over a hundred days. No problem.

It is a mistake to attribute his wife to a lack of 'game' since Zuckerberg could out 'game' any of us due to his cash.

It is a common mistake to forget that and it is a mistake I have made in the past.

Not sure why Zuckerberg is with his wife - but it isn't because that is the very best he can do.
 

LoveBug

Kingfisher
Catholic
Particularly those bitches on Real Housewives of Orange County (Tamara, Gretchen), they look immaculate and beautiful caked but would look 100% different out of the shower
 

Thomas the Rhymer

Ostrich
Gold Member
cardguy said:
An earlier poster made a good point. Zuckerberg's wife may be ugly - but if Zuckerberg wanted to he could bang a hundred '10's' over a hundred days. No problem.

It is a mistake to attribute his wife to a lack of 'game' since Zuckerberg could out 'game' any of us due to his cash.

It is a common mistake to forget that and it is a mistake I have made in the past.

Not sure why Zuckerberg is with his wife - but it isn't because that is the very best he can do.

To be fair also, Zuckerberg is colour blind, which probably has messed up his standards for beauty.

Consider how Zuckerberg sees the world:
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The only colour he sees well is blue (hence Facebook is blue).
 

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kosko

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The chins are uniformly to large also to go with the ape hands. Red flag for days on those broads pictured.

And Zucker can't do better. Stop letting the money fool kats. He is a social awkward mildly autistic herb; most stay vrigins, he's lucky he even swooped that mop bucket of a woman.

Why would a woman running in those money circles fuck with Zuck? A awkward guy that looks like he smells like waffle batter. She could easily find some guy with a tenth of Zuvks money whom is way cooler and has more going for him vibe wise and is still richer than .01% of all people.
 

Que enspastic

Ostrich
Gold Member
^ zucker could do better. he could slam a 10 every day of the week if someone set him up with the right system.

however, he wants a relationship where the bish doesn't marry him for money and divorce.
 

uni

 
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uni said:
How many of you would bang these:

ladyboys.jpg


Their makeup is perfect ;)

cardguy said:
They look good to me. Only a homo would turn them down!

You are not the only one. The vast majority of guys showed
high interest, said that they are 9s and that they would bang them.

These "girls" in white are actually transsexual guys, wearing makeup...

Once again, this is how much it matters to see the girl
in person, WITHOUT MAKEUP...
 

Beyond Borders

Peacock
Gold Member
uni said:
cardguy said:
They look good to me. Only a homo would turn them down!

You are not the only one. The vast majority of guys showed
high interest, said that they are 9s and that they would bang them.

These "girls" in white are actually transsexual guys, wearing makeup...

Once again, this is how much it matters to see the girl
in person, WITHOUT MAKEUP...


That was some cold-blooded shit. lol

Don't worry, cardguy - it's a lot easier to spot a ladyboy in person, or once you've spent enough time in bars where they hang out.
 

soup

Owl
Gold Member
I think it's lame that a lot people claim to be gay just to get attention.

That said, I also think drags can be really funny- they are the ultimate jokers that can simultaneously piss a lot of people off and be loved by a lot of people.

They are also a great mockery of bitchy American women. They draw attention to how much makeup can influence a woman's looks.

This is a gallery of drag queens that have have half their makeup on.

You can see how much make-up can change the appearance. Keep this in mind next time you are dealing with a lot of women who rely on make-up to pump there value.

Always try to figure out what the girl looks like without her makeup..

Drags with half makeup
 
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