uni said:
I gave only rational, real-life and nature arguments,
while unfortunately you ImmoralPsychology only resorted to calling names and insults, and you have not given arguments for anything...
I did what now? Please quote exactly where I called you names and insulted you. My last post explained why women wear makeup and that it has a strong psychological foundation and wasn't even a reply to you. My reply to you, regarding Zuckerberg's wife, while I admit might have been a bit harsh with the swearing, did not insult you. I was tired of these types of examples and my frustration came out in that post. To use a multi-billionaire's ugly wife as proof that money can't help a guy without game is just plain wrong. He chose her. Maybe he loves her. Maybe he trusts her. Maybe he just doesn't care about having a model for a girlfriend. Maybe a lot of things. But if there is one thing I would bet my entire life savings on right now, it's that Mark Zuckerberg can get his pick of model-quality looking girls with the snap of a finger. If you doubt that, then you need more experience with women.
Meanwhile, your reply to me was exactly what you accused me of doing (which ironically, I didn't even do):
ImmoralPsychology sounds like a girl in disguise when she writes
what she wrote above. She knows a lot about industrial chemical cosmetics
so he is either a woman, either he really gets turned on only by the variate range of chemical products that are women makeup...
Resorting to ad hominem attacks doesn't help you prove your point one bit. Sure, the inexperienced high school kids on the forum may fall for it but I have no doubt that the guys on here whose opinion I give a shit about would see right through you.
That's not true. Guys have not been using makeup and the men stay younger looking much longer than women do.
And by the way, nature which is really good looking, always keeps the flowers, animals and everything else in its natural form,
and natural form always looks very good for the last many millions of years: forests, rivers, animals, cats, lions, all the animals and the plants
look good naturally, without any need for overpaint or makeup.
The only exception is somehow the very ugly women that with the use of the industrial chemicals that are makeup,
manage to attract good quality guys that get fooled and cheated by the industrial chemical makeup...
Men have never used makeup? What do you call war paint used by Native Indians? Throughout Africa and in plenty of indigenous cultures even to this day? Western societies shun makeup on men now, yes, but even in western societies, men wore plenty of makeup and wigs too in the past.
You seem to misunderstand why women wear makeup in the first place. I pointed it out in my last post. Reread it. They do so to cover up blemished skin. They use it to mimic youthful and superior genetic features. The rose blush of a young girl's cheeks that happens naturally at 16 doesn't at 25 or 35 or 45. It's not just "very ugly" women that use makeup. It's anyone that wants to hide their flaws and highlight their best features and mimic a beautiful woman's more attractive attributes.
And the kicker is that this entire thread that YOU started is using as a premise, "look how ugly women are without makeup". You're specifically pointing out that women often only look attractive with makeup and that without it, guys wouldn't touch them! Do you not see the contradiction between that and "we should leave nature alone"???
How many of the women posted here do you think look better without their makeup? Tell me which ones. I'm curious to know. Your point that men are being deceived by makeup is not disputed. I tried to explain to you *why* a woman wears makeup, and you can't seem to grasp that. If you were one of these "ugly" women, you wouldn't wear makeup when you could use it so easily to your advantage? Sure you would.
Only women who have nice skin and are naturally very attractive could compete without makeup, but even then, when applied artfully, it has a decorative effect which many men find appealing.
You need to watch Desmond Morris's The Naked Ape. Go watch it before starting threads based on ignorance and misinformation.
Then, when you're done with that, come back here and explain to me the difference between wearing makeup and how deceptive it is, and getting your teeth straightened with braces (which hides the fact that your genes gave you gnarly teeth). Or when a guy slathers zit cream all over himself to remove pimples from his bacteria-infested skin which, if left up to nature would make him a lot less attractive to women as a mating partner. Or Rogaine. Or any number of other tactics men use to present a better version of themselves to women.
On one hand you're complaining about women using makeup and that they should be "natural". On the other, you're saying you don't find them attractive without it. I hate to burst your bubble but if you limited yourself to the women who are still stunningly beautiful without any makeup, you'd be single for the rest of your life. You're living in a masturbatory fantasy world where a woman who has better genetics than 99.99% of the female population would choose YOU as mate.