Should Homosexuality be Illegal?
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This short article from 2015 is worth a read:
Gambia is a thin African country on the West enclosed by Senegal.
They are certainly hard on homosexuality there, increasing the penalty from 14 years to life imprisonment if 'aggravated'.
The Gambian president:
Gambia is a thin African country on the West enclosed by Senegal.
They are certainly hard on homosexuality there, increasing the penalty from 14 years to life imprisonment if 'aggravated'.
The Gambian president:
Chiosboy90
Woodpecker
A coworker of mine just got married with another man. Its legal in my country cause "love is love" referendum won last year with over 60% saying yes. Next step will be adopting children of course and the 3rd step I dont wont to writte out. I think before that Jesus will visit us hopefuly.
We were collecting money for him and I was very much confused if I should support this sodomy. I very much like him as a person, he would be such a nice mate if he would become straight trough therapy and God but you can throw out of the window in the West. Gays are superstars here.
I decided to give a bit of money as well and wrotte as the only one a bible verse in the greeting card. Homosexuality should be illegal and we should handle this as a illness but not hate the sinner but the sin. Which I more then often forget to do.
We were collecting money for him and I was very much confused if I should support this sodomy. I very much like him as a person, he would be such a nice mate if he would become straight trough therapy and God but you can throw out of the window in the West. Gays are superstars here.
I decided to give a bit of money as well and wrotte as the only one a bible verse in the greeting card. Homosexuality should be illegal and we should handle this as a illness but not hate the sinner but the sin. Which I more then often forget to do.
Chiosboy90
Woodpecker
All coworkers were collecting money and asked me, if I would join in. They bought a giftcard. I gave 15 bucks. I felt bad because I do like him as a person but feel disgusted by the sodomy. So yeah, in hindsight even 15 bucks "supporting" sodomy is a bad thing.
Just when I was about to write off the blacks, the Africans come up with something like this and make me envy their resolve to keep their societies clean of the moral filth that plagues the West.
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Edit: from this Andrew Anglin post:
Coerced by Declining American Empire, Kenyan Court Tries to Force People to Do Sodomy on Each Other
https://youtu.be/92c022QHenA Gay sex in Africa is a Jewish conspiracy. That’s not a joke, friends. The US State Department and the National Endowment for Democracy, as well as, frankly, the US Department of Defense, all play a role in coercing African governments to force their populations to...
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Your mistake is confusing African Americans with real Africans.
I think we know how propaganda works today. And how financial incentives work.
We have a government that promotes sin and calls that liberation.
I don't belief in the state as a moral authority. As it is worldly it can never do that.
In my opinion and state should prosecute what harms the society most. E.g. 2 sodomites sinning in private, is less sinful than intentionally spreading propaganda to sin on a TV screen.
promotion of sin in propaganda should be forbidden in a state. People employing websites, making TV programs, we should have a blacklist for all the TV producers promoting filth. Onlyfans girls on the no entry list to the country.
What should be promoted is that sinners repent. And to find their unity with God again.
A normal society forbids spreading alien degenerate propaganda as it hollows out the society.
Measures should promote holy living and de-incentivize degenerate sinful living.
I think that persecuting mass spreaders of filth (Hollywood, porn etc) and putting these people on no entry lists would make a huge difference. Even on an international scale.
We have a government that promotes sin and calls that liberation.
I don't belief in the state as a moral authority. As it is worldly it can never do that.
In my opinion and state should prosecute what harms the society most. E.g. 2 sodomites sinning in private, is less sinful than intentionally spreading propaganda to sin on a TV screen.
promotion of sin in propaganda should be forbidden in a state. People employing websites, making TV programs, we should have a blacklist for all the TV producers promoting filth. Onlyfans girls on the no entry list to the country.
What should be promoted is that sinners repent. And to find their unity with God again.
A normal society forbids spreading alien degenerate propaganda as it hollows out the society.
Measures should promote holy living and de-incentivize degenerate sinful living.
I think that persecuting mass spreaders of filth (Hollywood, porn etc) and putting these people on no entry lists would make a huge difference. Even on an international scale.
Not making homosexuality illegal is a crime in itself towards those engaging in it. We outlaw things that are bad for someone. If homosexuality leads to a path of destruction it's a completely fair and logical decision to, just like destructive things like murder and theft, protect the individuals in society against it. Now by having made everything legal, these countries have by design taken away the layer of protection of the individuals residing in it. If you think about it that way, it's actually a useful way on how law should be: protecting those under it from others and certainly also from themselves.
I think for this to happen we need to be very clear about why exactly it's wrong. Even when I was a secular athiest I knew the reasons. If you try to search online for why it's bad you won't find any information. All the top hits are about how amazing it is to be gay, condemnation of "hateful" preachers, gay hate crimes, etc etc.
So in a sense it's the blind leading the blind into sin. The hive mind perpetuates the idea that it's just innocent people in a loving relationship. And if you disagree then you're just a crazy bible thumper with no good reasons.
So we need to emphasize the following:
- Marriage can be amazing! It's a sacrament. Children are little creatures with souls that talk and look like you! Having a heterosexual partner and children together can bring alot of joy and meaning to life. Enough with the whining about marriage and children as if it's a burden.
- Homosexuals are not pro life in the sense that they do not create life. They lead to a sterile society. No great civilizations were upheld by gays. Gays increasing is always a sign of patterns in society related to moral decline.
- Children need both male and female role models as parents. Having 2 men or 2 women confuses them and doesn't support a proper upbringing. This is unbalanced and doesn't create a unitive family bond.
- Sodomites are notorious for spreading STDs and some of them are solely driven by sodomites alone like AIDs and monkeypox. Inserting objects where they shouldn't go can also lead to health issues or injuries.
- Building your identity around your sexual preferences and what you do under the covers is not a healthy way to present yourself to the world. We are more than our passions and lusts. We don't have to have sex. We won't die. Being celibate doesn't mean you're life is over.
- Being gay makes your family and friends uncomfortable and causes division. It's breaks up families just like other dividers such as divorce, adultery, alcohol addiction etc. These choices are similar in that they disintegrate family and friendship bonds.
- Gays have an exponentially higher rate of mental illness, suicide, domestic abuse, porn addiction, drug addiction, etc.
- Just becuase something is legal doesn't make it right. That shouldn't be the standard we use for whether something is right or wrong. Cigarettes are legal. Alcohol is legal. Vile rap music is legal.
- Gay conversion therapy works. Many have had their lives turned around. They willingly went to therapy and you can hear their success stories if you look for them. Many have regrets for living a gay life or trans life.
- For many being gay is just a phase. For example it's common for Thai women to become "Toms" when they are young. It's the mindset of a rebellious teenager. They later in life realize they want a husband and children. There arent many older "Toms".
I could go on but I think you get my drift. We need to emphasize points like these before handing people the God pill. I think it does more harm to use the protestant method of screaming at them in the streets that they are going to burn and hell and need to repent or pointing out where in scripture homosexuality is condemned.
It makes it seem like this is the only reason people are against sodomy which is totally untrue! There are many secular reasons for why it's bad just like their are for porn.
We cant just tell people it's wrong becuase God says it's wrong. Even though that's true, it causes them to rebel and hate God even more than they already do, descending further into their pride and ignorance.
Well said! Yes I think this goes for everything. But for many people it's tough to really verbalize something like you summed up above, for they lack the real life/based on shared experiences knowledge like we may have encountered in for example the red pill space, or discussion groups like this. I think this is also a reason why atheism could takeover the West in the last century, because mainly due to a lack of prior experience (atheism and all that came with it hadn't been tried on such a scale, so that there wasn't a good baseline of data to put out of the effects, like we have now) people weren't very well prepared to defend why, besides because God wants it, certain things should be allowed and some not. Funnily the things that God wants from us are to shelter us against the fallen world and protect us in essence from ourselves, so that as we now clearly see in real time and with magnificent datasets people destroy themselves once they're ''freed'' from these boundaries which isn't freeing at all, but moving from a protected environment into the wildnerness and into slavery.
I was writing about Gambia before now it seems that Uganda has made the news for similar reasons -
www.rt.com
I will quote that whole article here as it is gold!
Uganda is a landlocked country west of Kenya, just checked the map
Ugandan president lashes out at West for promoting LGBTQ rights in Africa
Uganda President Museveni slammed Western interference in LGBTQ laws and has called for African sovereignty
Uganda is a landlocked country west of Kenya, just checked the map
Africans must be doing something right, as they’re the only ones who have a high enough birth rate to populate their societies.
I was writing about Gambia before now it seems that Uganda has made the news for similar reasons -
I will quote that whole article here as it is gold!Ugandan president lashes out at West for promoting LGBTQ rights in Africa
Uganda President Museveni slammed Western interference in LGBTQ laws and has called for African sovereignty
Uganda is a landlocked country west of Kenya, just checked the map
Ugandan interview exemplifies
Give them enough time being faithful to God. And they will start to have a High Culture that rivals Europe and Asia. As well as Geniuses.