Should Homosexuality be Illegal?

BLMeToo

Sparrow
Yes, it absolutely should. I believe there's an Aquinian principle about proportionality in this case, that we can't go the route of Iran and Saudi Arabia and have morality police busting down people's doors to make sure they're not engaged in it, but on a more local level we need stronger, more cohesive communities that actively frown on homosexual acts, instead of the "live and let live" mentality of even modern "conservatism". But absolutely we can never allow "same-sex marriage".
 
I don not hate individual homosexuals, but as a social force, they are to be hated, as they’ve shown they want to spread homosexuality, with the likely trailing result of pederasty, something that clearly follows homosexuality or is that which in some causes homosexuality from a warping of sexuality at young ages.

This. Not illegal, but discouraged publicly and removed form all public discourse. All LGBT stuff removed from politics. Promote reparative therapies and detransition therapies. Promote ex gay and ex trans stories on media. LGBT stuff censored for underage people. Make LGBT lobby groups illegal. We shouldn't attack homosexuals on a personal level, but treat them with absolute indifference. Like their preference doesn't exist. I have homosexual relatives and friends, and I don't hate them as individual people, but i pity their bad choices instead. No same sex marriage, no adoption for them. Harder penalties on sexual abuse on kids and teens by same sex offenders.
 

M'bare

Woodpecker
Gold Member
Just think in terms of what a free society, with free association would do?

Maybe you tolerate gays, but you don't punish them criminally. You pray for them as you would any other sin. Milo apparently turned away from it.

But no it should not be illegal in the sense that someone should be beaten, imprisoned or punished in some way from my perspective.

What CAN happen in a free society, is the people there can say we don't want you around here. Stop serving and use ostracism to get them to leave simply for being, or if they're doing more subversive stuff. Even in the Bible (New Testament), I don't recall Jesus or anyone calling for penal punishment of gays -- simply to not associate with them, call out the sin and pray for them. Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.

At the most, you could make them leave your area -- excommunication from your tribe or group. The Amish do it all the time, as do other groups. It's certainly not right to kill someone for being gay, but people should have a right to maintain their "area" as they see fit.

Part of the problem with our current system, is it doesn't really allow for freedom of association and doesn't allow for full ostracism due to our tax system and other systems.
 
I never have been a liberal. I never felt that LGBT was a normal , natural , or healthy lifestyle / sexual orientation. They ( LGBT ) have gone too far. The legalization of LGBT marriage made them and gave them the upper hand in the cultural war. LGBT teachers are teaching elementary school students and Middle School students that it's perfectly fine and normal. Gay adoption should be a last resort option. There are hundreds of thousands of heterosexual married couples in the world that are unable to have children , they should be the preferred choice , not the high income gay couple that wants to adopt a kid.

My step-brother is gay , and I have witnessed quite a bit of perversion and disturbing behavior and immoral conduct by him and his "friends". Gay men refer to straight men as "breeders". The term "breeders" is a derogatory term for those who are wondering. The gay pride parades , and with the Democrat Party encouraging them to be bold , loud , and proud , militant , and a powerful political force of the left , it just proves my point that LGBT has gone too far in America and they need to be stopped! Seeing on TV the gay pride parade in Seattle , and watching the Middle Aged LGBT activists dressing up kids in drag , just causes me to shake my head in disbelief , and I feel that dressing up kids in drag is a form of child abuse.

As a Christian , I do not agree with or accept their sexual perversion , I don't care if that makes me politically incorrect. I am sick and tired of them shoving their views and "alternative lifestyle" down the throats of Americans who believe that heterosexual relationships are what is best for our nation. I believe that we should only vote for and elect Politicians that promote healthy and normal heterosexual relationships. Christianity needs to become a powerful force for that to happen. Christianity is not popular amongst the Millennials in America. Generation X is rather divided on religion , just like they have always been rather divided with each other on just about everything!

A very large percentage of Millennials do not feel that their is anything wrong with LGBT , they feel that LGBT marriage and adoption is all fine and dandy. A large percentage of Millennials are atheists , well over half of Millennials feel that Left Wing Soviet Style Socialism is the best form of Government for the U.S.A. I find all of this to be very alarming. It all started in October of 1985 when the handsome gay actor Rock Hudson died of AIDS. That is what sparked the militant and vocal LGBT movement and political force. Prior to October of 1985 , the LGBT community and population was "in the closet" and San Francisco was the only "out of the closet" big city. In the Bible , God makes it very clear that LGBT is an abominable sin. Just my 2 cents.
 
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stugatz

Pelican
Well, we need to make sure they aren't a public health risk (which they tend to be, due to the insane amount of sex partners even the average homosexual has). Making this illegal would certainly solve that problem, or make great strides towards it.

If we lived in a 1970s type setting where gays were more or less left alone and stayed in their own insular subculture, I'd possibly be content with that. (Well, they were left alone with some extra layers to it - it wasn't illegal, but it was seen as wrong and weird on both the left and the right, and nobody wanted to be gay as a result. It wasn't seen as stylish or rebellious, you were viewed like you were a sex offender, and anyone who hung around you was looked at similarly.)

Today, though, they're not content with being tolerated - they're not even content with being de facto celebrated as they were given mainstream recognition and got access to secular civil unions. No, they want to force you to celebrate them, and make it illegal for you to say anything even remotely critical of them.

The 1970s compromise I mentioned isn't something they really deserve - it's just me trying to not actively persecute perverts as long as they just corrupt each other and not mainstream society. If they insist on continuing to poison general society, though...all bets are off. Make it illegal again. I even catch myself having some sympathy for how zero-tolerance Islam is towards them.
 

The Penitent Man

Woodpecker
Yes it should be illegal. Laws in a Christian society should be consistent with biblical values. Any healthy society will have laws that promote the family structure and wellbeing. Likewise, any healthy society will have laws that serve as a deterrent to anything that undermines the family. Legal protections for sodomy, no-cause divorce, abortion, etc., have no place in a healthy Christian society.

Homosexuality stands in opposition to the family and operates like a destructive fungus within any society it infests. It’s the advanced manifestation of moral rot. It should not be tolerated or even quarantined. Get rid of it.
 
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Mountaineer

Ostrich
Gold Member
This. Not illegal, but discouraged publicly and removed form all public discourse. All LGBT stuff removed from politics. Promote reparative therapies and detransition therapies. Promote ex gay and ex trans stories on media. LGBT stuff censored for underage people. Make LGBT lobby groups illegal. We shouldn't attack homosexuals on a personal level, but treat them with absolute indifference. Like their preference doesn't exist. I have homosexual relatives and friends, and I don't hate them as individual people, but i pity their bad choices instead. No same sex marriage, no adoption for them. Harder penalties on sexual abuse on kids and teens by same sex offenders.
The start should be a ban on promoting homo in the public sphere. A total ban always create undergrounds so it's better to do this gradually.
 
The LGBT has become so bold and militant and brazen due to the Democrat Party and the Political Left making them a very powerful force and voting block. America was a much better country when the LGBT was "in the closet" and San Francisco was the only "out of the closet" big city in America. It is a detestable sin and a perversion , and leftists and social justice warriors are teaching kids in elementary school and middle school that LGBT is perfectly fine , natural , normal , and socially acceptable. It sickens me and nauseates me that our children are being brainwashed! God's wrath shall punish those that committed the abominable sins of homosexuality , and God's wrath shall punish the leftists and social justice warriors who brainwashed American children. America turned it's back on God , took God out of the schools , took prayer out of the schools , and we are facing the consequences of it now. When a nation turns it back on God , that nation must face God's wrath!
 
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stugatz

Pelican
In major cities they have the 'gayborhood'. Let them go there and live in their own filth
I have mixed feelings on those. On the one hand I like the idea of low crime areas that draw new people in.

On the other hand...well, let’s just say that in 2019 I got a burger at an artisan diner that turned out to be a drag place. (Don’t ask...I don’t know how hamburgers and drag shows go together, but I guess they found a way.) Stuff like that made me think maybe the barrio isn’t so bad.
 
At the very least they should fund their own drug treatments as a result of their lifestyle. No free lunch for perversion. Governments force us to subsidize the treatments that naturally arise as a result of their perversions.

As much as they are some or even many that have to purchase diapers because poop liquid is leaking out of their butts as a result of perversity.
 

The Penitent Man

Woodpecker
At the very least they should fund their own drug treatments as a result of their lifestyle. No free lunch for perversion. Governments force us to subsidize the treatments that naturally arise as a result of their perversions.

As much as they are some or even many that have to purchase diapers because poop liquid is leaking out of their butts as a result of perversity.
Make it illegal and that wouldn’t be a concern even for debate. I’d propose that it should also be illegal to advocate for the legalization of homosexuality. Just nip that in the bud.
 

Towgunner

Kingfisher
I think its very important to discuss and expose the truth about homosexuality. Truth is on our side. The simple fact is this - because our society has become "more tolerant" of homosexuality we're headed towards pedophilia. Therefore gay = pedophilia. pedophilia will never be accepted in our society. And that's the point. Too many people have not yet made the very obvious connection between the gays and child abuse. Truth always comes to the surface...or something like that. It helps that the gays through their own personal corruption are playing right into our hands when it comes to pedophilia. I can tell you right now without any hesitation that none of the soccer moms in my town that are flying their homo flag will support this group once they realize the pedophile factor.

People are lemmings, yes I know that, but, there's a limit to their gullibility. I'd never thought I'd see open antisemitism in the US, but, recently that's the new thing and its coming from the left. So, don't think these things can't reverse. But there are other things too. Regarding "trans", there's something about that recent 60 minutes expose that has me thinking. You see, 60 minutes is mainstream. Again, accounting for all the regular counterarguments about how powerful the left is today, nonetheless, I think most people are not at all convinced about the "trans" issue even if they say they are. I think most people are outright disgusted by this.

"trans" isn't like Adderal or ADHD. ADHD was overdiagnosed, but, didn't leave a lasting/permanent irreversible mark on kids. With "trans", this is permanent, there is no going back. That means kids are being mutilated in the most unspeakable way. Everyone knows that.

Moreover, via 60 minutes, the testimony stated everyone affirmed these kids and no one offered the slightest reservation. This tells us a few things. First of all, it shows us, unfortunately, that these kids are being castrated unnecessarily. Also, it provides the substance that refutes a primary plank of radical liberalism, which is unchecked tolerance for everything.

We've become overly affirmative as a society and in addition to mutilating kids they're also trying to rape them and expecting our "affirmation" all the way. People might be stupid, but, they pick on things. You can fool the people some of the time but not all of the time as Marley would say.

People will watch this and feel compelled to do a lot of things differently, for instance, offering feedback for this sort of thing going forward. That is good because it demonstrates the importance of discernment as an imperative part of life and not to be abolished as the left has insisted. For if you do...you'll end up castrating children.

Its disheartening to see the lock-step support for the gays but on the other hand there's the truth of this "community". If there's one thing we can do its to expose the truth. I think this truth is going to come out one way or another.

Elsewhere, there are positive signs. Many states either have already introduced new laws banning males from competing in female sports or banning the practice of treating "gender dysphoria". And at the end of the day, what is this "pride" thing? Asking people to fly a flag to be proud of you?
 
Make it illegal and that wouldn’t be a concern even for debate. I’d propose that it should also be illegal to advocate for the legalization of homosexuality. Just nip that in the bud.
And what would you propose to deal with subsequent militant activism?

Which seemed to have help lead to legalization.
 
No, but the government should actively have anti-homosexual propaganda (as well as pro- heterosexual family propaganda) and ban homosexual adoptions and not recognize homosexual marriages (they can have their ceremonies but it would be meaningless as far as the government was concerned just at the silly woman marrying a bridge was). I favor limited government and don't feel the govt. needs to be peeking into bedrooms. Discrimination against homosexuals should be legal as far as businesses are concerned. Nobody should have to make a cake for homosexual weddings. The government should not support any taxpayer funded efforts to encourage homosexuality (such as paying for rainbow flags at government buildings) and pro-homosexuality propaganda should be banned from being displayed at government buildings. .
 
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