Signs of escalation into a World War

Yeagerist

Woodpecker
Orthodox Catechumen
I think Poland has a fervent hatred for Russia that blinds them and makes them act irrationally.
It's partly ZOG elites manipulation and partly the irrational foreign policy of Poland affected by personal grievances. So I don't buy the angle that the Polish nationalists are fake. They're just too selfish and short-sighted to see that they and Russia face the same threat. Unfortunately it shows that many folks we expect to see the full picture, don't do so.
 

budoslavic

Eagle
Orthodox
Gold Member
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Handsome Creepy Eel

Owl
Catholic
Gold Member
It makes them the perfect attack dog in this fight.

I don't know who here is old enough/grew up in the right area, but in the Midwest in the 1980's they would tell "Pollack jokes". The "Pollack" was always the butt of the joke. My guess was this was handed down over a few generations, going back to the Europeans who settled in the region + a safe ethnic group to make fun of because we are thousands of miles apart.

Being how I am wired; I was always so confused by this. "Why Pollacks?", why were they picked out to be the butt of the jokes? Then I met people who traveled throughout Europe, and I learned that this same view of "Pollacks" was universal in western Europe. At least that is what they have said. I have never seen evidence either way until now. Their rabid hatred of Christian/Muslim Russia and taking the side of the satanic evil Ukraine/NATO/West in this battle really proves the point I hear so many years ago. I pray they can overcome it, fighting for the side of evil has generations long consequences, as we are now facing in the USA 80 years after WW2.
A man goes into the Bank of Gdansk to make a deposit. Since he has
never kept money in a bank before, he is a little nervous.
"What happens if the Bank of Gdansk should fail?" he asks.
"Well, in that case your money would be insured by the Bank of Warsaw."
"But, what if the Bank of Warsaw fails?"
"Well, there'd be no problem, because the Bank of Warsaw is insured by
the National Bank of Poland."
"And if the National Bank of Poland fails?"
"Then your money would be insured by the Bank of Moscow."
"And what if the Bank of Moscow fails?"
"Then your money would be insured by the Great Bank of the Soviet
Union."
"And if that bank fails?"
"Well, in that case, you'd lose all your money. But, wouldn't it be
worth it?"
 

fortyfive

Kingfisher
Other Christian
Despite not being Polish, I know their country pretty well, speak their language and read sources there regularly.
And I have to say this: Poland is still the most based country in this region, there is a persistent spirit of resistance against communism, and NWO, and during covid farce, I felt there most freely, compared to the rest of the EU.
Yes, there is an anti-Russian sentiment as well as an anti-German too, but the majority of the people here are not blind and stupid leftists.

They understand very well, how they are played by big players and dragged into unwanted war by their puppet politicians.

From my observation, there is no support for this Morawiecki's warmongering. Comments are often banned here in media, and when allowed, almost all are heavily critical of govt.
A lot of Poles demand at least an apology from the Zelensky regime for killing two of their people. They don't blame Russia like politicians but Ukraine, and rightly so.

Poles voted for the current administration for conservative agenda and standing against the EU craziness, not for the devastation of their lives at war with a nuclear superpower.

Poland was newer brainwashed by lgbt tranny agenda like the west, and there are not so many blue-haired leftists willing to start an apocalypse for the Ukrainian clown.

Saying otherwise is like saying that all Americans are democrats and Biden supporters. Foreigners watching only CNN and Hollywood can have that impression, but you know it's not true.

Ordinary red-state American is very similar to regular East Europeans.
They want to just live normally like before and not have their lives ruined by this insane satanic scheme.
Nobody here cares about climate change, gays, sanctioning Putin, and other BS.
 

Lawrence87

Kingfisher
Orthodox
It's partly ZOG elites manipulation and partly the irrational foreign policy of Poland affected by personal grievances. So I don't buy the angle that the Polish nationalists are fake. They're just too selfish and short-sighted to see that they and Russia face the same threat. Unfortunately it shows that many folks we expect to see the full picture, don't do so.
I imagine as nationalists they don't forget their history, which at the hands of the Russians was not great during the Soviet era.

Not saying they shouldn't forget and reconsider their allegiances, but it's a matter of fact that nationalists will tend to look disfavourably upon those who treated them badly in the past.
 

Akaky Akakievitch

Woodpecker
Orthodox Catechumen
Concerning the Poles and their natural anti-Russian sentiment, I was reading a prophecy from St Lawrence of Chernigov recently. His topic was on Russia but he also talked about the history of Polish antagonism against Russia, how "Ukraine" was founded and (((guess who))) was the source of the conflict centuries ago... (cross post from JQ thread):



Elder Lawrence’s Words about Rus’, about the Concept of “Russian,” about Heresies and Schisms, and about Faithfulness to the Mother-Church

St. Lawrence spoke emphatically and strictly, with warning, that the word for our native land and people is Rus’ and Russian.8"And it’s absolutely necessary to know, remember, and not forget that it was the Baptism of Rus’ (Russia), and not the baptism of Ukraine. Kiev is a second Jerusalem and the mother of Russian cities. Kievan Rus’ was together with Great Russia.Kiev without Great Russia and separate from Russia is completely unthinkable.

"There was a secret Jewish capital in Poland.9The Jews forced the Poles to try to conquer Rus’. When the Poles conquered part of Rus’ (Russia),10 they rented it to the Jews, including Orthodox monasteries, churches and priests. The priests and Orthodox people could not perform any rite whatsoever without their permission. They pressed and oppressed the Orthodox [Christians] from every side, protecting Poland, Catholicism, and the Unia.11 It is not without reason that 'Golden Gritz'12 of blessed memory—Fool-for-Christ Grigory—used to cry out at the bazaar when they would beat him: 'Oh! The Jewish fists hurt!'

"The Jews hated the words 'Rus' and 'Russian,' so at first they called the Russian lands conquered by the Poles and rented out to them 'Malorossia' (Little Russia). Then they realized that it contained the word 'Ros,' and they named it Okraina13. The word okraina is a disgraceful and humiliating word! What 'remote, outlying district'? What 'outback'? Why and for what is it 'okraina'?! You see, beyond this supposed Judeo-Polish 'outskirts' there lie other countries and states. And later, on their same orders, the Poles legitimatized the concepts of the Ukraine and Ukrainians to us, so that we would willingly forget our own name of 'Russian' forever, so that we would be torn away from Holy and Orthodox Rus' forever.

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8 St. Lavrenty [Lawrence] was from what is now called (the) Ukraine; therefore, the word “our” here refers in particular to people living there—the word for native land there is “Rus’” and “Russian,” not “Ukrainian.” –Trans.

9 The King of Poland invited Jews to his country, finding it profitable, whereas in the Middle Ages or later many European countries had expelled their Jewish population, much of which then moved to Poland, where they were welcome. Thus, there was a high concentration of Jews in Poland, and they were indeed allowed to have great control and influence there. The word "secret" may have been used because they were still segregated from the Christian population in many ways, voluntarily or involuntarily. —Trans. [see my link to Wikipedia below]

10 Poland—Kingdom of Poland/the Polish-Lituanian Commonwealth—annexed Kievan Rus', subjecting Russian peasants, especially, to the arenda system. (See note 16 under arenda. [sic - it is note 14])

11 The Union of Brest (1595-1596), wherein many Orthodox bishops in Little Russia succumbed to Jesuit pressure and went over to the Pope of Rome.

12 Grigory Miroshnikov of Sednev, Chernigov, Fool-for-Christ. He lived at the beginning of the 19th century.

13 "Okraina" means "outskirts," "outlying districts," "remote area."

14Leasing—arenda. System in the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth (which had annexed Kievan Russia), whereby a few oligarchs owned vast estates and even peasant villages. The landowners were unwilling to spend the time necessary to administer such vast holdings, so the commonly-accepted solution was to rent out one's lands (hence, arenda) to Jews, who managed the lands and collected taxes for the owners. This was the same as the ancient Roman tax-collection method of Biblical times, whereby the tax collectors were not actually paid by the Romans, but who were allowed to exact more—sometimes much more—than the sum for taxes in order to "pay" themselves. The Jewish middlemen even collected taxes from Orthodox Christian clergy, often held the keys to the church, and not a single treba (service of need, such as a wedding or baptism) could be performed without paying them. Russian Christian attitudes towards them were therefore similar to Jewish attitudes towards the tax-collectors (publicans) for Rome in the Bible accounts.


The Commonwealth [Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth or Kingdom of Poland and Grandy Duchy of Lithuania] had also one of the largest Jewish diasporas in the world – by the mid-16th century 80% of the world's Jews lived in Poland (Pic. 16).[233]

So while I would hope there are many based Poles who would resist this nonsense, it seems that they're historic hatred against Russians is present largely thanks to the Jews. Once they understand that, they might free themselves a little more from the propaganda.
 
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Yeagerist

Woodpecker
Orthodox Catechumen
What if this false flag missile attack wasn't intended for Poland to start a war with Russia, but to open up a new front in western Ukraine instead? If Poland decides to act unilaterally and attack Ukraine using the missile as casus belli, then the EU could use this as justification to punish Poland for resisting globohomo policies, and thereby discredit the nationalist/far-right anti-EU movements in other EU member states? I think it's not far from the realm of possibility because as far as the war racketeers in Washington are concerned, a new conflict somewhere means more profits for them.
 

Острог

Robin
Orthodox
No, it's just a kabuki theater for the proles to think Poland acts somehow on it's own accord. The country is ruled by the same bunch of WEF henchmen.

So while I would hope there are many based Poles who would resist this nonsense, it seems that they're historic hatred against Russians is present largely thanks to the Jews. Once they understand that, they might free themselves a little more from the propaganda.
Bingo. Consequently Poland did pay for the ungodly Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth with it's following breakup and long occupation. God is just. And they have/are making the same mistake again by siding with the ungodly ZOG and will pay the price for this too. They haven't paid the price for Iraq/Afghanistan yet. Punishment is coming. We can already see it'll be in a form of meat grinder and enslavement.
 
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Yeagerist

Woodpecker
Orthodox Catechumen
Bingo. Consequently Poland did pay for the ungodly Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth with it's following breakup and long occupation. God is just. And they have/are making the same mistake again by siding with the ungodly ZOG and will pay the price for this too. They haven't paid the price for Iraq/Afghanistan yet. Punishment is coming. We can already see it'll be in a form of meat grinder and enslavement
You're celebrating the occupation and loss of freedom of the Polish people under Russian, German and Austrian rule, under the guise of "based JQ awareness" and divine punishment. An occupation which was repeated in the 20th Century under National Socialist Germany and the Soviet Union (with a healthy dose of ethnic cleansing committed by Ukrainian nationalists, for that matter). And then you're surprised why the Poles' historical hatred towards Russia outweigh their opposition towards the Brussels globalists.

I suppose the Russian minorities in the Donbass regions deserved being persecuted by Ukraine as punishment for Holodomor. See what this edgelord stupidity from the likes of you bring? The Western propaganda machine didn't just hop on the Russophobia bandwagon overnight, it's built upon grievances that the ex-Soviet puppet states have. And feelings of Schadenfreude wishing for Poland's demise only add to the anti-Russian hostility, which is the last thing that sensible, rational people want as far as ending this proxy war is concerned.
 

2 Right Hands

Woodpecker
Catholic
You're celebrating the occupation and loss of freedom of the Polish people under Russian, German and Austrian rule, under the guise of "based JQ awareness" and divine punishment. An occupation which was repeated in the 20th Century under National Socialist Germany and the Soviet Union (with a healthy dose of ethnic cleansing committed by Ukrainian nationalists, for that matter). And then you're surprised why the Poles' historical hatred towards Russia outweigh their opposition towards the Brussels globalists.

I suppose the Russian minorities in the Donbass regions deserved being persecuted by Ukraine as punishment for Holodomor. See what this edgelord stupidity from the likes of you bring? The Western propaganda machine didn't just hop on the Russophobia bandwagon overnight, it's built upon grievances that the ex-Soviet puppet states have. And feelings of Schadenfreude wishing for Poland's demise only add to the anti-Russian hostility, which is the last thing that sensible, rational people want as far as ending this proxy war is concerned.
I find it bizarre that people try to explain complex history spanning centuries using one, questionable to say the least, source, and then draw such a definite conclusions. Sure, I am biased because I am Polish but, seriously, it doesn't take long to factcheck some of the elder Lawrence's claims, like the one about the origins of the name Malorossia (Little Russia). The name was in use long before the Poles conquered the lands, before the Polish-Lithuanian commonwealth even existed. The proto-Russian rulers of these regions used the name themselves, to distinguish their country from the Greater Russia. And, by the way, there was no one Russia at the time. We're talking 14th century here. Also, the name Ukraine was in use even before the Little Russia was coined. Not as a name of a state but as a geographical region. So all this weird clams about Jewish connection (and apparent huge influence on Polish kings!) is a bunch of nonsense, sorry.

But even if all that was true, I would still be very careful to assume to know God's will and what is His punishment and what isn't. I am curious what made Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth ungodly? We are talking about the state that played huge role in defeating Ottoman Empire in the 17th century (Siege of Vienna). Would Europe be still Christian if it wasn't for Jan III Sobieski? Maybe, maybe not.

And most importantly, if the downfall of Poland was God's punishment, then how much more of an ungodly kingdom was Tsarist Russia that it had to be punished with one of the biggest evils of all time, Bolshevism?

We can argue if Polish Russophobia is rational or the opposite, but I think one should simply first study the last 300 to 400 years of the shared history between the two nations to see how complex the background is rather than rely on some fantastical and one-dimensional hypotheses.
 

Samseau

Eagle
Orthodox
Gold Member
And most importantly, if the downfall of Poland was God's punishment, then how much more of an ungodly kingdom was Tsarist Russia that it had to be punished with one of the biggest evils of all time, Bolshevism?

Honestly, this is an easy one to answer: The Tsar was punished for waging a brutal war against fellow a fellow Christian nation that had largely rebelled from the Catholic church, who were amenable to Orthodox conversion, instead of focusing on the insane chewish threat in their midst. And so, God turned the Tsar over to the Chews.
 

Острог

Robin
Orthodox
Polish, like the British, partnered with the Jews to feed their greed, pride and lavish lifestyle while the common man was left to the mercy of the Jew. The only conversation with the Jews should be "repent and recognize Jesus as your Lord". Not take loans to finance your war, not let them run the monetary policy of the country. This is fundamental. This is what the Spanish crown did not left unanswered. If this (but not only this) condition is not met a nation opens itself to bad influence, bad choices and bad outcomes. It's a sin and a sin done by a nation doesn't go unpunished. We may not always understand why things happen but God is just and he allows chastisement for a good reason. If Poland was chastised this way it was well deserved. I'm not celebrating what happened to Poland but I view it as historically fair.
 
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2 Right Hands

Woodpecker
Catholic
And what evidence do you have that they "partnered with Jews"? Hope it's not elder Lawrence's words because they're simply historically inaccurate when it comes to these things. There were Jews in medieval Poland and they played part in modernisation of the economy, but just as much as the Germans and later the Dutch and French. Eastern Europe was a fairly primitive back then so they needed expertise of people from more advanced nations. Problem is, Jews were also in the present-day Ukraine, long before this region became part of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. In fact, it was the princes of Kievan Rus' that let them in, and just as most European countries, allowed them to participate in the society to bigger or smaller degree. The Jews were highly segregated minority and they couldn't work in the administrative roles. By the time world Jewry rose to such prominence and wealth that they could influence governments (18th/19th century) Poland was already gone.
 

Ember

Hummingbird
Other Christian
Gold Member
A major Gazprom pipeline, 14 miles East of St. Petersburg, has blown up. It is not yet known if sabotage or an accident, but of course many will suspect the former.


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An enormous explosion has hit one of Russia's major gas pipelines, sending flames and smoke billowing into the sky above and prompting fears it was a retribution attack for Vladimir Putin's continued invasion of Ukraine.

The fireball was visible for miles in every direction after hitting about 14 miles east of St Petersburg, the nation's second largest city and Putin's hometown.

One source said: 'Everything is automatic there, and such explosions by themselves, without external influence, are impossible.'

The blast is believed to have hit the main gas pipeline belonging to Gazprom Transgaz SPB, and could have potentially impacted up to one million people.

Ambulances and emergency vehicles were rushing to the scene this afternoon. Eyewitnesses reported intensive care vehicles also drove to the site of the explosion.

It's understood investigators and forensic specialists were also at the site of the explosion as they rush to determine the cause.

However, the major blast did not hit close to residential areas, and there are no initial reports of casualties coming out of Russia.
 
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