Signs of escalation into a World War

[Kiwi]

The doomsday clock has been moved to the shortest time ever: 90 seconds.

Kremlin: Doomsday Clock moving closer to midnight ‘really alarming’

The Kremlin said the Doomsday Clock moving closer to midnight is “really alarming” as its the closest point its been thus far to worldwide destruction amid ongoing international tensions stemming from Russia’s war with Ukraine. Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov told reporters on Wednesday...

news.yahoo.com

Not that it defines anything, but the commentariat that follow this stuff daily is alarmed.

Does the Doomsday Clock adjust for daylight savings?

 

[paternos]

That's the problem, everyone thinks the same thing, notably (and reportedly) in the Pentagon, and certainly in all MSM and Western European governments.

Everybody is persuaded that the war will drag on forever and that V. Putin will never use a hypersonic missile or a Poseidon torpedo or some other unconventional weapon to put an end to it. And a victorious end at that, one would think.

So, as it stands, what's left of deterrence?

How come the West are so sure of them, so arrogant, so persuaded that Putin will not strike? They give HIMARS, Caesars, tanks, F16s soon, to crazy Zelensky, and they are serene, absolutely certain that Putin won't strike back.

I'm so surprised that I actually started reading the Nuclear Weapons don't Exist thread here on the forum. Maybe that's the reason of all this, Nukes don't exist? That or the computers for nuclear strikes have been rendered useless?

Because if nukes exist, why do Western countries are provoking Russia by all possible outrageous means, inundating Ukraine and Estonia with weapons, sending their special forces to kill Russians in the Donbass, openly trying to destroy Russia by all possible ways? How can they be so sure that Putin won't say Enough is enough and give, for example, a strike order to the Admiral Gorshkov fregate?

Also, State TV in Russia and many top-level politicians, are every other day clamouring for an unconventional strike to put an end to the war, but Western governments are just laughing and sending more tanks. Why aren't they afraid?

I think they don't fear nuclear war because there are none.

Nukes are to war as what the holocaust is to Western society
Some of us wrote about in the Are nukes real thread?

There is no small gazillion power device maintained by supersmart scientists that the politicians just didn't use because they are so good at restraining themselves.

I think the nuke is a psychological tool. At any moment they can shift it on to mobilize or pacify the population.

I wouldn't be surprised to see this playing out in the coming years. We will hears sirens all over Europe, stories of nuclear warheads pointed at Berlin, at Paris, at Amsterdam. Kids practicing crawling under the table. All to mobilize the population for the meat grinder or to sign a peace treaty. To justify total governmental control. Just as they did with the "pandemic".

Therefore it's possible we have these German nannies as Foreign Affairs Minister so carelessly talking about war with Russia.

If this was true, evil Putin could destroy all major European cities with 1 click. He has 6000 nuclear warheads according to the data. It would just be logical he has them pointed already and when the shit hits the fan, press click and eradicate all military bases, harbors, weapon factories in Europe. And then hav 5900 warheads left.

Russia and weapons of mass destruction - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

At this moment there is no real use for the nuclear narrative. The whole population in Europe supports the war, but I can imagine it changes, that there will be more revolts and demonstrations against the rulers, and then they might pull it out of the hat.

 

[Easy_C]

Meh. I mean, I know people who were in charge of overseeing nuclear artillery back in the day. I'm a little more inclined to believe they're real because of that.

 

[Rocha]

Are we convinced that Putin isn't a zionist, or even a jew?

Not trying to be controversial, and not saying this isn't a real war going on, but all evidence of world leaders in the last 100 odd years would suggest you don't get into a position of power like he has without being seen as an 'ally' by zog. Maybe he's just at odds with US zog, I don't know

He was seen as an ally by Ieltsin and his daughter and Berezovsky too, look how it ended for them.

 

[911]

I think they don't fear nuclear war because there are none.


If this was true, evil Putin could destroy all major European cities with 1 click. He has 6000 nuclear warheads according to the data.

He can`t do that, because it would infringe on Amazon`s 1 click patent.

Seriously though, this is a bit silly. The reason NATO doesn`t nuke Russia is that it would get nuked back, mutually assured destruction. Also the reason why India doesn`t invade Pakistan, and why Israel didn`t take Damascus in 1967, and why JFK and Khrushchev pulled their missiles from Cuba and Turkey in the 60s.

 

[911]

Well I guess it's a good thing Canada is playing such extreme lip service to this. Four tanks! Ha! I bet they're not scheduled to arrive in Ukraine for the start of training until 2026!

It will take a whole year just to bring the Ukrainian crews up on gender sensitivity training.

 

[It_is_my_time]

This would be a big escalation by the west.

 

[Ember]

This would be a big escalation by the west.

Even if they do, it will be too late, and make no actual difference. Both will get shot down with relative ease.

 

[Ember]

 

[Ember]

 

[Foolsgo1d]

Please dont bring the 4chan schizo theory of "no nukes exist" to this thread.

Putin probably wont use them but the guy behind him will. Putin is a moderate afterall and you have to think of the ramifications here when utilising such weapons.

We are all forgetting the truth dies first in war and that is true here. They have spun this so much that the so-called anti-war brigade and moderates are calling for the lynching of Putin, his government and any rich Russian (how antisemitic!). We have Pentagon strategists declaring it a good thing they have pushed this far without a nuclear response.

They dont want to stop Russia in ukraine because they want to destroy Russia. The neocons and their neo-liberal allies dream of this future of a destroyed Russia and finally after the blue balling in the 20th century they are now having another go but unlike the 20th century we have nobody talking peace and trade. it is all about death, weapons, funding and deplatforming and encirclement.

Russia has no need for a WMD yet because they have a big push coming. That could change once long range missiles are used on Russian urban centres and infrastructure which Zelensky has been pushing, which is what Washington and London want.

The managers of our countries have clearly said a Russian victory is not on the table and their actions are proving it. Not enough to really escalate but a drip feed of man power and armaments to keep Russia occupied. Lets not forget we are at war with a nuclear power through our intel and military services.

Remember the lunatics who are running this have the likes of Victoria Nuland and her husband running as the managers, now just imagine how evil their bosses are. These (((neocons))) know the gig is up for the world economy and financial system and a nice big, fat juicy war in Europe that would lead to contagion elsewhere.

It will fail but not before a lot of people are dead.

 

[budoslavic]

Meanwhile...

From the Rand Study: "Avoiding a Long War U.S. Policy and the Trajectory of the Russia-Ukraine Conflict".

 

[M'bare]

I think they don't fear nuclear war because there are none.

Nukes are to war as what the holocaust is to Western society
Some of us wrote about in the Are nukes real thread?

There is no small gazillion power device maintained by supersmart scientists that the politicians just didn't use because they are so good at restraining themselves.

I think the nuke is a psychological tool. At any moment they can shift it on to mobilize or pacify the population.

I wouldn't be surprised to see this playing out in the coming years. We will hears sirens all over Europe, stories of nuclear warheads pointed at Berlin, at Paris, at Amsterdam. Kids practicing crawling under the table. All to mobilize the population for the meat grinder or to sign a peace treaty. To justify total governmental control. Just as they did with the "pandemic".

Therefore it's possible we have these German nannies as Foreign Affairs Minister so carelessly talking about war with Russia.

If this was true, evil Putin could destroy all major European cities with 1 click. He has 6000 nuclear warheads according to the data. It would just be logical he has them pointed already and when the shit hits the fan, press click and eradicate all military bases, harbors, weapon factories in Europe. And then hav 5900 warheads left.

Russia and weapons of mass destruction - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

At this moment there is no real use for the nuclear narrative. The whole population in Europe supports the war, but I can imagine it changes, that there will be more revolts and demonstrations against the rulers, and then they might pull it out of the hat.

I know there's a whole thread about this, but man...I just can't get behind the notion there are no nuclear weapons. It's like trying to believe the earth is actually flat. Interesting arguments, but nonetheless just off entirely.

I suppose all of these videos were faked?

It's probably best to presume it's true they're real, and prepare accordingly. As long as you're not in the direct blast zone, or right over the fallout, then you can most definitely survive the blast itself. What comes after...unrest, infrastructure issues perhaps, etc. will be another story.

Lastly,
Joshua 1:9
Have I not commanded you? Be strong and courageous. Do not be terrified; do not be discouraged, for the Lord your God will be with you wherever you go.

Take care everyone,
M'bare

 

[Pointy Elbows]

Someone attacked Iranian drone production plants today. I've heard questionable reports (from Ukrainian media) that it was Azerbaijanis that did it in response to an Azer official that was recently killed. This has my action/response/solution suspicions up.

Iran military facility rocked by explosion that officials say was 'unsuccessful' drone attack

A military facility in Iran was reportedly rocked by a loud blast which officials in the country say was the result of a failed drone strike that resulted in no casualties.

www.foxnews.com

The US has a lot of pawns, bishops, and knights. I expect more such events from the Grand Chessboard.

Edit - Should've responded to Papist's post in the Lounge thread.

 

[Ember]

 

[budoslavic]

Link to @WarClandestine thread.

Link to @BlueCanaries thread.

 

[It_is_my_time]

Israel has been attacking Iran directly the last few days. Looks like the patience in Russia is running low and Putin will have some tough decisions to make.

 

[Salocin]

Israel has been attacking Iran directly the last few days. Looks like the patience in Russia is running low and Putin will have some tough decisions to make.

This is something to watch. Russia supplying nukes to Iran would be quite the escalation.

 

[bucky]

This is something to watch. Russia supplying nukes to Iran would be quite the escalation.

Seems like even the attempt would draw Israel directly into the conflict. You'd have to expect Israel would directly attack Iran before they could get any kind of battery of nuclear missiles set up.

 

[Going strong]

If it weren't for the Ukrainian crisis, which Obama and Nulland deviously started in 2014, Russia would probably have supplied Iran with S300s, long ago, or even with the more modern S400s...

But with the perpetual Ukrainian threat at its door, Russia cannot fully help Iran, Venezuela, Serbia or Armenia. Which was probably why the West created the whole, never-ending Ukrainian mess in 2014, to begin with. So that Russia cannot help Iran protect its airspace, Serbia get its Kosovo back, Armenia secure its Nagorni Karabak back, and Venezuela refine its own oil.

All these reasons also point to the certainty that the West will do everything possible to prevent a Russian victory in Ukraine, and peace from being secured. Everything including providing a nuke to a cornered, feral Zelensky - or some dirty, leaking nuclear device (if nuke bombs don't exist as such).

Meanwhile, some good news, Brazil and Argentina have both wisely refused to send ammunitions to Zelensky. As a retaliation, the US will probably grant a long term visa to Bolsonaro?

But, bad news too : Australia and France have decided to jointly manufacture and deliver artillery shells to Zelensky. Quite an incredible alliance, if one remembers the furious business hatred between Australia and France, after the failed submarine deal couple of years ago...

Anecdotically, in the Southern American country I'm living in, a country now filled with immigrating Russian families, almost all these new (and legal) Russian migrants, if you ask them, think that the situation in Europe will end up with a nuclear war. They're convinced that Biden and Zelensky will somehow succeed in starting a nuclear event. First by sending tanks, then warplanes, then long range missiles, and so on...