Signs of escalation into a World War

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sarmaticus

Robin
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budoslavic said:
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I get brain damage every time people set their targets so low in assessing what's really going on.
Biden decides nothing, not even when to change his diapers. Muh Hunter Biden raking in millions lol...
It's always the trillionaire chews doing so much destruction on all levels possible, a mad dash to destroy christianity and ultimately humanity for their gay kike overlord lucifer.
 
Samseau

Samseau

Peacock
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From another thread. Moving the discussion here because I think a lot of people are getting their premises wrong. I was discussing the next stage of WW3, which will be an embargo against China (since our sanctions are toothless as long as China is free to do as it pleases), even though it would cause a hyperinflationary depression. Naturally, to get people scared enough to go along with the embargo, there will be a huge false flag (look at how much hysteria a balloon caused, lol) to kick things off. Will be easy for the chews to do this.

get2choppaaa said:
Except why would the world support China embargo? You're describing WWIII scenario with out a WWIII resource pool.
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What does the world matter? Popular support hasn't mattered much in the last 40 years - Trump was the only upset to the NWO, and they responded with a fake global pandemic (a raw demonstration of power) and perma-rigged elections (LOL at strokeman Fetterman win - so fake).

The only pushback was J6, and instead of 25 million people showing up to fight for their rights, they got 1% of that at 250K. The people are weaker and more cowardly than they've ever been, we are in the Roman times again where the people do not matter.

Many posters here are getting their analyses wrong because they are starting with very bad premises, and have yet to adjust to the current reality. Until the dollar loses power, the people don't matter because there are so many Godless mercenaries everywhere who will do anything for money, and there are so many cowards who believe this life is all there is and are too scared to risk life for liberty.

A China embargo = no one delivers goods to China without going through US naval chokepoints, China would starve or be forced to pay massive tribute to the USA. The people of the world won't like it, but they can't or won't do anything about it, so China will be on it's own.

And yes - there's a good chance the USA loses in such a situation, but our leaders are narcissistic psychopaths' who don't think they can lose, so they will do it anyways. That's the point - the people and their wants or needs do not matter. Doesn't matter if hundreds of millions of American's die.
 
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get2choppaaa

get2choppaaa

Crow
Orthodox
Samseau said:
From another thread. Moving the discussion here because I think a lot of people are getting their premises wrong. I was discussing the next stage of WW3, which will be an embargo against China (since our sanctions are toothless as long as China is free to do as it pleases), even though it would cause a hyperinflationary depression. Naturally, to get people scared enough to go along with the embargo, there will be a huge false flag (look at how much hysteria a balloon caused, lol) to kick things off. Will be easy for the chews to do this.



What does the world matter? Popular support hasn't mattered much in the last 40 years - Trump was the only upset to the NWO, and they responded with a fake global pandemic (a raw demonstration of power) and perma-rigged elections (LOL at strokeman Fetterman win - so fake).

The only pushback was J6, and instead of 25 million people showing up to fight for their rights, they got 1% of that at 250K. The people are weaker and more cowardly than they've ever been, we are in the Roman times again where the people do not matter.

Many posters here are getting their analyses wrong because they are starting with very bad premises, and have yet to adjust to the current reality. Until the dollar loses power, the people don't matter because there are so many Godless mercenaries everywhere who will do anything for money, and there are so many cowards who believe this life is all there is and are too scared to risk life for liberty.

A China embargo = no one delivers goods to China without going through US naval chokepoints, China would starve or be forced to pay massive tribute to the USA. The people of the world won't like it, but they can't or won't do anything about it, so China will be on it's own.

And yes - there's a good chance the USA loses in such a situation, but our leaders are narcissistic psychopaths' who don't think they can lose, so they will do it anyways. That's the point - the people and their wants or needs do not matter. Doesn't matter if hundreds of millions of American's die.
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Your premise that the US navy could accomplish this is just wrong. Thats the issue with your postulation.
 
Samseau

Samseau

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get2choppaaa said:
Your premise that the US navy could accomplish this is just wrong. Thats the issue with your postulation.
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Possible but not entirely clear what the outcome would be. Naval battles are far different than land battles. Predicting the outcome of Ukraine was much easier than a naval war with China. Hypersonic missiles still have limited range and in the open seas subs will determine the outcome; if American subs win the American navy can become the pirates of the high seas taking any and all cargo deemed to be in violation of the embargo at China.
 
paternos

paternos

Kingfisher
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Samseau said:
Possible but not entirely clear what the outcome would be. Naval battles are far different than land battles. Predicting the outcome of Ukraine was much easier than a naval war with China. Hypersonic missiles still have limited range and in the open seas subs will determine the outcome; if American subs win the American navy can become the pirates of the high seas taking any and all cargo deemed to be in violation of the embargo at China.
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I think you're spot on here. The seas will be crucial.

We saw with Corona how fragile the global transport system is. The Judeo-American empire doesn't want a silk road for this reason.

I wouldn't be surprised, the large container freight ships will be a large part of the war.

Under the premise, China is shipping drones to Iran via freight ships blown to pieces.
 
paternos

paternos

Kingfisher
Catholic
Samseau said:
Possible but not entirely clear what the outcome would be. Naval battles are far different than land battles. Predicting the outcome of Ukraine was much easier than a naval war with China. Hypersonic missiles still have limited range and in the open seas subs will determine the outcome; if American subs win the American navy can become the pirates of the high seas taking any and all cargo deemed to be in violation of the embargo at China.
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Reading up on it.

Last year several largest ever naval NATO exercises in the Baltic sea.

NATO units increase readiness in Baltic Sea during Finnish-led maritime exercise Freezing Winds

Allied Maritime Command (MARCOM) is the central command of all NATO maritime forces and the Commander MARCOM is the prime maritime advisor to the Alliance.
mc.nato.int

And check this:
www.rfi.fr

South Africa risks US ire by staging naval exercises with China and Russia

In a controversial move that has strained its relationships with the EU and the US, South Africa will host naval exercises off its eastern coast with Chinese and Russian ships. The exercises coincide…
www.rfi.fr www.rfi.fr

As always it will be about who controls the seas.
thebarentsobserver.com

Sevmash delivers sixth Borei-class sub, launches the seventh

Russia significantly increased its modern naval nuclear forces on Thursday as one new Borei-A class submarine was handed over to the navy at the shipyard in Severodvinsk.
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I was kind of distracted by all the other things, but reading up on it, there is something happening here.

It's about who rules the waves.

All the internet cables are in the sea, when the gas lines were so easy to blow up...

Thinking about the Bosporus Strait and the strengthening of Russia/Turkey ties.

The naval situation is worth more attention.
 
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sarmaticus

Robin
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Samseau said:
Possible but not entirely clear what the outcome would be. Naval battles are far different than land battles. Predicting the outcome of Ukraine was much easier than a naval war with China. Hypersonic missiles still have limited range and in the open seas subs will determine the outcome; if American subs win the American navy can become the pirates of the high seas taking any and all cargo deemed to be in violation of the embargo at China.
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Agreed. NATO/US is a maritime superpower still. They would likely win against China but not easily and Russia might have something to say here as well - hard to determine. If NATO wins the naval brawl they will circle China like sharks to enforce a strong embargo, but, don't forget the massive land backdoor they have with Russia, N. Korea, Iran, etc. They can easily survive with Russia's energy and resources and if NATO and its lackeys decide to put boots on the ground to finish them, it would be suicidal. With Russian resources, in a war footing, China can produce yearly hundreds of thousands of tanks, IFVs, LR precision missiles/hypersonics, drones, etc.
 
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paternos

paternos

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sarmaticus said:
Agreed. NATO/US is a maritime superpower still. They would likely win against China but not easily and Russia might have something to say here as well - hard to determine. If NATO wins the naval brawl they will circle China like sharks to enforce a strong embargo, but, don't forget the massive land backdoor they have with Russia, N. Korea, Iran, etc. They can easily survive with Russia's energy and resources and if NATO and its lackeys decide to put boots on the ground to finish them, it would be suicidal. With Russian resources, in a war footing, China can produce yearly hundreds of thousands of tanks, IFVs, LR precision missiles/hypersonics, drones, etc.
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Yes this is something else than encircling and isolating a small country as Germany in WW2 to make them die of hunger.

This might turn out to be a new cold war, but very different.

As the power of the West seems to be decreasing vs China/Russia/Iran + allies.

The soviet power compared to the Western block by far had the power as the new eastern block has to the west.

And with the destruction of productivity in Europe and the US to save the climate it's not getting any better.
 
get2choppaaa

get2choppaaa

Crow
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I don't know... My experience with the US Navy has been less than impressive. I've literally been on a sinking ship.

Submariners are a diffent class of squid...but still.

The navy completely relies on civilian ship and contractor support.

Been on LSD, LPD, and LHD class ships....

Anyone else spent any time on a navy vessel?

My experience has not led me to believe our current navy is Anything like that of the wwII type you're describing....
 
Samseau

Samseau

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get2choppaaa said:
I don't know... My experience with the US Navy has been less than impressive. I've literally been on a sinking ship.

Submariners are a diffent class of squid...but still.

The navy completely relies on civilian ship and contractor support.

Been on LSD, LPD, and LHD class ships....

Anyone else spent any time on a navy vessel?

My experience has not led me to believe our current navy is Anything like that of the wwII type you're describing....
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Impossible to know which side is more dysfunctional. Don't rule out a US win.
 
RedLagoon

RedLagoon

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Thomas More said:
It's coming sooner or later, probably sooner. Might as well get used to the idea, store in some iodine tablets, get some plastic sheeting, a staple gun, and a bunch of furnace filters.

It's time to stop hatin' the bomb and embrace what's coming.
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Dr. Strangelove or: How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb

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Dr. Strangelove - Wikipedia

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