Single women in their 30s/40s are starting to realize they will die alone

Dr. Black Pill

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True, depends on the industry you're in. And also, what country. You're Canadian, right? Canada kind of progressed while the US was mired in 9-11, Iraq, Bush, Great Recession.

I worked in Dubai for years and saw many rig heads arrive in Dubai with nothing but a suitcase and leave millionaires-here's a clip from a film I was involved in in Dubai financed by a local oil guy shot on location in Dubai which starred a famous Canadian actress
called PIRATES BLOOD. It was filmed in Dubai and financed by an Arab who made his money with oil supply yards.

Oil is a fairly inelastic commodity.

Even George Bush made a heap of money in the oil business and Canadians really had no great respect for him. Indeed, its a great business to be in.

For now.
 

scotian

Crow
Gold Member
True, depends on the industry you're in. And also, what country. You're Canadian, right? Canada kind of progressed while the US was mired in 9-11, Iraq, Bush, Great Recession.

I worked in Dubai for years and saw many rig heads arrive in Dubai with nothing but a suitcase and leave millionaires-here's a clip from a film I was involved in in Dubai financed by a local oil guy shot on location in Dubai which starred a famous Canadian actress
called PIRATES BLOOD. It was filmed in Dubai and financed by an Arab who made his money with oil supply yards.

Oil is a fairly inelastic commodity.

Even George Bush made a heap of money in the oil business and Canadians really had no great respect for him. Indeed, its a great business to be in.

For now.
Any American could've done the same thing as I did if they were willing to tough it out in shit holes like the North Slope of Alaska, North Dakota or West Texas during the ten year oil boom which extended up until a couple of months ago with the US shale boom. The economy has been pretty solid so far in Trump's presidency although this Covid mess is screwing everything up, just as it is everywhere. My point again is that there's lots of work out there for guys who have a plan and are willing to move, not every Gen-Y or Millennial is living at home and those who are likely went deep in debt to finance a useless degree. It can be pretty doom and gloom around here, I'm trying to stay positive for the young guys who read this forum, too much negativity can be depressing.
 

Dr. Black Pill

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Don't you have to have an engineering degree these days to get into the oil business. When I worked in Dubai most guys in oil had engineering degrees.

But yeah, if you want to be a rig head you can make money offshore.

That's not terribly glamorous and life offshore on a rig is sometimes precarious but it pays well. It does not come with the prestige of being a doctor or even a lawyer, but it is better than minimum wage.
 

scotian

Crow
Gold Member
Don't you have to have an engineering degree these days to get into the oil business. When I worked in Dubai most guys in oil had engineering degrees.

But yeah, if you want to be a rig head you can make money offshore.

That's not terribly glamorous and life offshore on a rig is sometimes precarious but it pays well. It does not come with the prestige of being a doctor or even a lawyer, but it is better than minimum wage.
Not at all for entry level, those guys you worked with in Dubai had the best jobs in the biz, tax free expat packages. For the average grunt like me in the US or Canada, an 18 year old guy can get a job on a rig easily enough (although I don't recommend it at all) or into an apprenticeship in a skilled trade (the route I highly recommend) and work on the down stream side in refineries or any other heavy industry like shipyards, nnuclear, pulp mills, aviation, etc. These aren't glamorous jobs at all but a guy can legit become a millionaire and by the time he's say 30 be "off the tools" and in a supervisor role, sitting in a comfy office.

Another thing is that a lot of young guys spend tons of time in college and get themselves into a crazy amount of debt, even lawyers and doctors. Some of these people spend 5-8 years in school and graduate with 200K plus in student loans, then when they start working they basically have to live a high consumption lifestyle to keep up with their peers, so a McMansion, late model expensive cars, private school for the kids, exotic vacations, jewelry, expensive clothes, etc. An oil rig hand or tradesman lives in a modest house, drives a five year old F-150, can shop at thrift stores and doesn't have to keep up with the joneses so much.

A young guy who is say a welder or plumber can start working at 18 and be making say 40-60K as an apprentice then by the time he's 22 be up in the 80-100K range and after a few more years, 120K plus if he goes into supervision. Let's just say that he averages 60K for 6 years, that's 360K that he would make (plus a pension if he's union) by the time he's 24 whereas the law school or med grad at 24 has maybe made 1/3 of that in the summers plus they're over 100K, sometimes double that in debt for loans.

If the tradesman is ambitous he can start his own contracting company and become a multi-millionaire if he plays his cards right or if he chooses, stay with a company or union and live a pretty decent, low stress life.

Anyway, there's lots of options out there for young guys who aren't afraid to work hard and get their hands dirty.
 

gework

Pelican
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Radical feminists are made because they are outside of of the mating paradigm and therefore they resent it. But their exclusion is for good reason. Destruction is all that is left for them. And so, if they can convert an unknowing female, especially one that is well within the mating paradigm, than they will and they'll do it with gusto. At the very least, they know they've created not necessarily someone just like them, but, someone that will suffer just as they do.
Concise.

One of my key realisations in life is that many people need to have one person who is below them. So they can have at least one person below them. Imagine the rage of the feminist zealot if one of her fold got with a nice, serious guy with a jaw line - everything she wants. You know she's going to go home and eat until she becomes as fat as a pig.

Gavin McInnes told a story somewhere of a woman he knew who worked at Jezabel (definition: an immoral woman who deceives people in order to get what she wants; the misery of others in this case). I think she managed to sort herself out and left. She said that one day the 39 (?) year-old editor came to her in tears. She was upset she'd not become a mother and now it was too late. i.e. everything she used her magazine to encourage other women to do.

The far end of feminism - lesbianism - has a lot in common with those people who enter alternative sub-cultures. You have the mainstream (though increasingly less so) where roughly speaking you earn your place by being a guy who can kick a football. Those who can't kick a football end up picking up a guitar or skateboard; or even rose both; and set up their own system. These are the alts. You only become an alt if you can't make it in the mainstream.

One thing I noted about alt girls is that an astounding number of them flirt with bisexuality. In the case of being a man, being bisexual craters your straight SMV. I can't think of a single famous man (beyond the new weirdos) who is bi. Even if he's gay he's probably still dating women for image. However a woman being bi (particularly an alt woman) ups her straight SMV. There is the prospect of her girlfriend. And it's used to lure in mainstream guys - if only for one night. These alt girls couldn't cut it with the pretty girls (cheerleaders in The US). Becoming bi, typically for no longer than a few years is a ploy to up their stakes. They haven't hit the point they are so disaffected with men they go full lesbian. Alt girls kind of hate the game, but they are still trying.

The real danger is when they can't execute plan B - the alternative route. I think you'll find virtually every new-wave feminist has reached this position. It's the position you have to reach before you could think it's a good idea to preach hatred and jealousy to vulnerable young girls.

It's all caused by allowing the emergence of a very-obvious and ever-increasing sexual-selection hierarchy.
 

kel

Kingfisher
One of my key realisations in life is that many people need to have one person who is below them. So they can have at least one person below them.
There's a study* that bears that out - volunteers were given $2-7 dollars, one person with 2, one with 3, etc. and (the middle ones) told they had to give a dollar either to the person below them or the person above them. Everyone gave a dollar to the person below them, except the person with 3, because he knew that giving a dollar to the $2 person would leave him as the poorest person.

* but, of course, there's a study proving everything
 

Dr. Black Pill

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Female bisexuality is simply a result of having MSM ram this down Gen Y's brain. As late as 1990 when I was 16 Lesbianism was regarded as abhorrent but first porn and then MSM popularized it.

You can get the public-males at least-to find female bisexuality titillating. But the mechanics of male bisexuality are more disgusting-the insertion of a male penis into a man's rectum is more disgusting to both males and females. No amount of MSM can really win the public over on this.
 

kel

Kingfisher
The (faux) alt has become the mainstream because a critical mass of people (including a supermajority of women) realized it was far easier to adopt a subculture than to build a real personality. This was aided by subcultures becoming a lot more welcoming as they became more explicitly political and therefore wanted to get their numbers up. You used to have to sort of "suffer" to be in a subculture - the subculture demanded something of you to be a part of that group, like a sort of gang initiation and symbols and dress and such, but over time that fell away as subcultures got taken over by those who hopped between subcultures as an easy "I'm special" signal.

"Queer" is the canonical example - fucking everything is "queer", I can't remember the last time I met a young urbanite woman who doesn't identify as "queer". The gays were happy about this (for a while) because it got their numbers up. Of course, now, queer doesn't really mean much, except that you read BuzzFeed and have the appropriate political and cultural opinions accordingly. And hence "alt" and "mainstream" got inverted.
 

kel

Kingfisher
Well, female bisexuality has also been evolutionarily selected. Not necessarily true bisexuality, but the harem society selected for women who could get along with other women in close confines. To be quasi-married to other women.

But, then transfered to the modern context where "queer" is cool and, at base, doesn't really require much from you, just about every young woman will at least identify as queer, and probably do the lesbian-until-graduation thing to virtue signal a bit and check a box on her bucket list.
 
Female bisexuality is simply a result of having MSM ram this down Gen Y's brain. As late as 1990 when I was 16 Lesbianism was regarded as abhorrent but first porn and then MSM popularized it.

You can get the public-males at least-to find female bisexuality titillating. But the mechanics of male bisexuality are more disgusting-the insertion of a male penis into a man's rectum is more disgusting to both males and females. No amount of MSM can really win the public over on this.
Bam! This is spot on. Early 90s if you asked any girl about lesbians they'd cringe and show disgust. Later in the decade, "they" promoted it. Especially in movies and other media. All of a sudden, girls we're open to it. It can be that quick. That's the power of social engineering and why it must be abolished.
 
That's a nice consolation prize.

Ending up in diapers around the same time your kids are getting out of theirs.
I'm not going to laud a 60 year old having kids as ideal, but I don't see why you always throw salt on such things. I guess it's better to not have kids? Sometimes I wonder what the older guys on here who have these ideas think is so wrong with kids from 40-55. Kids in your 40s for a man who is in good shape is no problem whatsoever.
 

Leonard D Neubache

Owl
Gold Member
If a childless man finds this forum at 60 years of age and is convinced to finally have children then that's fine.

Advocating the idea that a much younger man doesn't need to worry about waiting until he's 60 to have kids is not fine.

Think of it like smoking. If you knew a 60 year old smoker you would convince them to quit right away. If you knew a 25 year old smoker you wouldn't suggest to them "quitting when you're 60 is OK, better than not quitting at all, right?"
 

Leonard D Neubache

Owl
Gold Member
Men can reproduce at sixty. When all the cynical aloof bisexual Gen X alternative chicks who were the hotties of yesteryear with their purple hair with grey roots and Green Day concert tattoos are ending their lives poor and alone many Gen X men will be enjoying a nice villa in the tropics somewhere with a young exotic wife and young children.
There is a thin line between a prediction and a sales pitch. We apparently differ on what side of the line this quote falls. I believe (especially under the circumstances of the forum) that this kind of dialogue encourages unadvisable lifestyle choices on the premise that there will be no long term consequences and that men will simply be able to cash out of the game at a time of their choosing "enjoying a nice villa in the tropics somewhere with a young exotic wife and young children".

Yes, it's possible. But nine out of ten men banking on this outcome and frittering away their younger years waiting for this dream will die alone leaving no heirs, which is precisely why at its heart it is a globalist trope.

Sure, it maintains that cheap sense of plausible deniability just the way I could say "many men will be able to sleep around to their hearts content and then find an 18 year old virgin when they want to settle down" because "many" is a meaningless term on a planet of 7.5 billion people.

People should be wary of this kind of soft propaganda that sells an easy win long after all other orthodox options have been passed by and ignored. In any case, reducing a family line to two generations is also globalist garbage. We are meant to have three generations of men in play or more God willing. That is the natural order. Siring a child at 60 is robbing your child's children of the natural order of growing up with grandparents and the wisdom they have to offer.
 

Leonard D Neubache

Owl
Gold Member
Not at all for entry level, those guys you worked with in Dubai had the best jobs in the biz, tax free expat packages. For the average grunt like me in the US or Canada, an 18 year old guy can get a job on a rig easily enough (although I don't recommend it at all) or into an apprenticeship in a skilled trade (the route I highly recommend) and work on the down stream side in refineries or any other heavy industry like shipyards, nnuclear, pulp mills, aviation, etc. These aren't glamorous jobs at all but a guy can legit become a millionaire and by the time he's say 30 be "off the tools" and in a supervisor role, sitting in a comfy office.

Another thing is that a lot of young guys spend tons of time in college and get themselves into a crazy amount of debt, even lawyers and doctors. Some of these people spend 5-8 years in school and graduate with 200K plus in student loans, then when they start working they basically have to live a high consumption lifestyle to keep up with their peers, so a McMansion, late model expensive cars, private school for the kids, exotic vacations, jewelry, expensive clothes, etc. An oil rig hand or tradesman lives in a modest house, drives a five year old F-150, can shop at thrift stores and doesn't have to keep up with the joneses so much.

A young guy who is say a welder or plumber can start working at 18 and be making say 40-60K as an apprentice then by the time he's 22 be up in the 80-100K range and after a few more years, 120K plus if he goes into supervision. Let's just say that he averages 60K for 6 years, that's 360K that he would make (plus a pension if he's union) by the time he's 24 whereas the law school or med grad at 24 has maybe made 1/3 of that in the summers plus they're over 100K, sometimes double that in debt for loans.

If the tradesman is ambitous he can start his own contracting company and become a multi-millionaire if he plays his cards right or if he chooses, stay with a company or union and live a pretty decent, low stress life.

Anyway, there's lots of options out there for young guys who aren't afraid to work hard and get their hands dirty.
Not to be understated is also the fact that virtually all jobs flowing from a college degree are going to require you to kiss the globopedo ring for the rest of your life. That in my opinion is THE biggest dealbreaker. Nobody is going to talk garbage to my local electrician about his bumper stickers because at the end of the day they value having functioning sockets over running their mouth. A doctor? Unless you bow to globopedo then enjoy spending the rest of your days in a dinky little clinic wondering when a pink-haired SJW goon is going to wrongfully accuse you of malpractice only to find yourself in front of a panel of pink-haired SJW goons who get to decide if your next career move involves a one way ticket to Africa.
 

kel

Kingfisher
Somewhat related (to the idea of male "there's always time" ism) Black Pilled video that I've almost certainly posted before:


Still, I agree with the better late than never approach. I'm getting serious about starting a family now (in my late 30s), of course I wish I'd done it before but can't turn back the clock and I do have some advantages now (more mature, decent money saved despite the recent murder of the economy, etc.)
 
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donvance

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Somewhat related (to the idea of male "there's always time" ism) Black Pilled video that I've almost certainly posted before:


Still, I agree with the better late than never approach. I'm getting serious about starting a family now (in my late 30s), of course I wish I'd done it before but can't turn back the clock and I do have some advantages now (more mature, decent money saved despite the recent murder of the economy, etc.)
Unfortunately, I was the first generation to be fully programmed by TV and the mass media. I recently turned 56 and can honestly say they really screwed me up. It all started with Bugs Bunny (Warner Brothers violence) and ended in the 90's with Seinfeld (NBC sarcasm). My program is a mess.

Basically they took me out when I was 30 and had no kids. They are just waiting for people like me to pass and they will inherit this great country.

I struggle to find ways to stay interested. What do I do when I have seen all the movies and have read all of the books I have ever wanted to read? I tried church but it didn't work out for me. I was programmed to be selfish, I like the Bible and pray for God to be my buddy. It has worked so far but will it work forever? Or at least until my retirement money runs out. I can see why nihilism is such a popular and sellable concept. Live for today is what I am sold when tv pumps up the fear and sells me safety.
 
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ginsu

Sparrow
Unfortunately, I was the first generation to be fully programmed by TV and the mass media. I recently turned 56 and can honestly say they really screwed me up. It all started with Bugs Bunny (Warner Brothers violence) and ended in the 90's with Seinfeld (NBC sarcasm). My program is a mess.

Basically they took me out when I was 30 and had no kids. They are just waiting for people like me to pass and they will inherit this great country.

I struggle to find ways to stay interested in. What do I do when I have seen all the movies and have read all of the books I have ever wanted to read? I tried church but it didn't work out for me. I was programmed to be selfish, I like the Bible and pray for God to be my buddy. It has worked so far but will it work forever? Or at least until my retirement money runs out. I can see why nihilism is such a popular and sellable concept. Live for today is what I am sold when tv pumps up the fear and sells me safety.
Stop feeling sorry for yourself man. If you don't like how your life played out at 56 yrs old then that's on you and no one else. No matter how much negative influence you get from outside. There has been enough time to change course and there still is time. Take responsibility for it, No one can make you do something that you didn't want to do. If you lived selfishly that's what you wanted at that time. You can still make something out of the rest of your life that you do like, or you can just pass away as you said.

If you grew up partly or completely before the internet you've had a FAR better chance to avoid the brainwashing than kids today. Most of the time the problem is not outside us but it's our own attitude. Stop blaming the outside world for messing you up, you can choose to remain messed up or fix it. If you're not interested in consuming books and movies, then create your own entertainment. We are not meant to experience endless fulfillment from consuming other's work.

Find worthwhile missions to pursue. Too old for children ?. Adopt some of the many children that are tossed aside that need a new family. Not happy about something in your area ?. start a charity organization and recruit others to solve the problem together.

I consider myself lucky to have at least experienced the age where kids went around knocking on their friend's door to ask if they could come to play outside. Now the same neighborhoods kids just come out to roleplay gang warfare going around with knives. After they've talked shit to the other ''gangs'' online first and engaged in social media drama. They didn't copy that from bugs bunny.

Kids today will never have what we had before the internet became widespread and easy to use. If you think you had it bad you're really out of touch with the matrix that young people are born into today. Toddlers get mobile phones and tablets pushed into their hands by their parents. Buggs bunny and Seinfeld are 100 times better than the shit that children and teenagers consume today. Hell even 10 years ago looks like a dream compared to what it is now.

 

donvance

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Stop feeling sorry for yourself man. If you don't like how your life played out at 60 yrs old then that's on you and no one else. No matter how much negative influence you get from outside. There has been enough time to change course and there still is time. Take responsibility for it, No one can make you do something that you didn't want to do. If you lived selfishly that's what you wanted at that time. You can still make something out of the rest of your life that you do like, or you can just pass away as you said.

If you grew up partly or completely before the internet you've had a FAR better chance to avoid the brainwashing than kids today. Most of the time the problem is not outside us but it's our own attitude. Stop blaming the outside world for messing you up, you can choose to remain messed up or fix it. If you're not interested in consuming books and movies, then create your own entertainment. We are not meant to experience endless fulfillment from consuming other's work.

Find worthwhile missions to pursue. Too old for children ?. Adopt some of the many children that are tossed aside that need a new family. Not happy about something in your area ?. start a charity organization and recruit others to solve the problem together.

I consider myself lucky to have at least experienced the age where kids went around knocking on their friend's door to ask if they could come to play outside. Now the same neighborhoods kids just come out to roleplay gang warfare going around with knives. After they've talked shit to the other ''gangs'' online first and engaged in social media drama. They didn't copy that from bugs bunny.

Kids today will never have what we had before the internet became widespread and easy to use. If you think you had it bad you're really out of touch with the matrix that young people are born into today. Toddlers get mobile phones and tablets pushed into their hands by their parents. Buggs bunny and Seinfeld are 100 times better than the shit that children and teenagers consume today. Hell even 10 years ago looks like a dream compared to what it is now.

Because no one tells it better
Thanks I like that guy. I been experimenting with gardening. I just scattered a mess of wildflower seeds. I hope they grow and bloom. Luckily I have some dirt and a yard to work in. I was just trying to tell my story for fair warning to those who follow. I agree, repent and follow your blessings. Best of luck.
 
need a new family. Not happy about something in your area ?. start a charity organization and recruit others to solve the problem together.

I consider myself lucky to have at least experienced the age where kids went around knocking on their friend's door to ask if they could come to play outside. Now the same neighborhoods kids just come out to roleplay gang warfare going around with knives. After they've talked shit to the other ''gangs'' online first and engaged in social media drama. They didn't copy that from bugs bunny.

Kids today will never have what we had before the internet became widespread and easy to use. If you think you had it bad you're really out of touch with the matrix that young people are born into today. Toddlers get mobile phones and tablets pushed into their hands by their parents. Buggs bunny and Seinfeld are 100 times better than the shit that children and teenagers consume today. Hell even 10 years ago looks like a dream compared to what it is now.

A very good point

I remember how growing up in the 90s and early 00s the School bullies were easy to avoid. Most acts of bullying where also physical and all I had to do was literally time my runs from the classroom bell to get to the next class early and I did not need to stand in line with them.

nowadays a kid get's bullied at school, probably get's mocked on social media with videos of the abuse circulating online which ends up creating an even bigger herd mentality effect. meaning that more of his peers are likely to bully him and nobody will want to socialise with the kid that everybody mocks online. It's frightening stuff.
 
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