Single women in their 30s/40s are starting to realize they will die alone

Blade Runner

Ostrich
Orthodox
Yes, it is sad that misery loves company. I guess women, who are not competitive in very much at all except with other women, can't let that go to just tell other women the truth. It's probably a redundancy since those who understand it would have acted on it in their 20s.
 
Women who are late 30s, 40s and beyond, especially who have never been married, want to be vindicated more than anything else. They want to prove to the world (a world that does not care) that they were right all along to hold out. They want to show those women who married young that they got something better by having high standards and a high value man to bend to them. They want to show up with the man who impresses everyone, especially other women. The female never-married 40 year old Director of Human Resources who is pursued by a divorced 40 year old self employed plumber should fall to her knees and praise God for his interest and do her best to land him. But he will not impress her friends (even though he is more self sufficient than all of them) so she turns up her nose. And if he looks good enough on paper, she will make him jump through hoops, again to be vindicated. Eventually these women end up in their 50s with no man, and claim that all women with a man are secretly miserable, and possibly are being abused. Sour grapes.
Great post. I agreed with what you said 100% :) . Usually , American women who are in their 50's and they have never been married and have no children are called - "Old Maid's". They love to buy and collect cats. They are known as "Cat Ladies". They buy lot's of cats to make up for the fact that they do not have a family of their own. When a woman has no husband , no ex husband , and no children , she owns lot's of cats to have the cats be her "family". Sad but true.
 

asghaa333

Chicken
Blade Runner,
In America in the year 2021 , it depends on what state you live in , if you live in a red state you will have an easier time finding a quality woman who has admirable traits and qualities. If you live in a deep blue state like I do , you will end up going the MGTOW route in life , after trying your best and hardest to get a quality chick for 15 1/2 years like I did. Red States are better states to live in if you are a Red Pilled Man. Deep blue states are great states to live in if you are strung out on meth , LGBT , or a woman who has 3 kids from 3 different men. I am 42 years old. I have no kids. I have been making good money ever since 1998 , especially since September of 2003. Substance and quality are very rare and hard to find in deep blue states.
How come you live in a blue pill state since you obviously consider yourself a red pill man?
 
How come you live in a blue pill state since you obviously consider yourself a red pill man?
I am an only child. My parents are divorced , but they both still live in Western Washington. America is doomed in all 50 states. It's pointless at this point in time to start life over at the age of 42. My parents are in their 70's and they both need me. I read a lot , and the whole nation will be one big blue state within 8 to 12 years. When Florida and Texas flip and turn blue and become the stereotypical blue states , along with Idaho and Montana , it will be the final nail in the coffin! That is just my opinion though. You can disagree with me , I do not feel optimistic about America's future with Joe Biden and Kamala Harris running and also ruining our once great nation. Just my 2 cents.
 

Naive

Pigeon
Wrong. Instead, I could pull up the social media apps right now and show you that every single girl I ever had unrequited oneitis for is now married. Every last one! And not to Poindexters either; in most cases they landed greater betas, despite in some cases being over 30. Now, since roughly half of them never had any biological children, you could reasonably speculate there is some simmering regret there, but given that the majority of them are devout Evangelicals, I'm sure they have no problem believing it was God's plan so they could focus on ministry or their adopted black babies or whatever. What they are certainly not doing is proclaiming from the rooftops to the younger generation of early twenties women that their lives are miserable failures and imploring them not to make the same mistakes they made, to instead settle down and start a family before you're 25. And that is what would need to happen in order for their failures to be used to turn society around.

This idea that the modern feminist house of cards is about to come crashing down Real Soon Now because men will rise up and refuse to marry thirtysomethings is wishful thinking.
We often forget that 30+ year old women are still "young" in the eyes of many older men. There are plenty of relatively high value, single 40+, 50+ year old men. They may have been divorced raped, but they are still successful, with comfortable homes, nice cars, etc. Many of these men may not be interested in long term relationships with these women, but as long as these women maintain some decent physical qualities, they can at least maintain short term validation and provider relations with these types of older men for years or even decades.

We also underestimate how many blue pill men never leave the matrix, or simply don't have the self-esteem to fight it. They might know deep down she gave up her best years to long gone Chads, but they've convinced themselves the low-T, "agreeable male" worldview they had shoved down their throat by Hollywood, single mothers, and their delusional online echo chambers is somehow coming true.

And I agree, you can't count on women to provide any sort of advice to younger generations, as women are predictably more interested in sabotaging younger peers and accompanying their misery.
 
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Vilmore

Pigeon
I could pull up the social media apps right now and show you that every single girl I ever had unrequited oneitis for is now married. Every last one! And not to Poindexters either; in most cases they landed greater betas, despite in some cases being over 30. Now, since roughly half of them never had any biological children, you could reasonably speculate there is some simmering regret there, but given that the majority of them are devout Evangelicals, I'm sure they have no problem believing it was God's plan so they could focus on ministry or their adopted black babies or whatever. What they are certainly not doing is proclaiming from the rooftops to the younger generation of early twenties women that their lives are miserable failures and imploring them not to make the same mistakes they made, to instead settle down and start a family before you're 25. And that is what would need to happen in order for their failures to be used to turn society around.

I'm getting the sense that all of you must have spent the 2000s and 2010s hanging out with different women than I did. I'm in my lower 30s and Every. Single. Woman. I ever engaged in relations with is single. Most have never even been in relationships they put on social media. The one who was married when I affiliated with her is now divorced (couple of kids and seems to be working as some kind of specialty "masseuse" focused mainly on men?). The longest-term girlfriend has been posting pictures of African children for the last few years along with donation requests for mission trips, and I think a third is flourishing in a career as an escort/uh, actress. There are many more who are less interesting.

I can get a chuckle from looking any of them up. Sorry you guys haven't had the same luck...
 

holgerdanske

Woodpecker
I'm getting the sense that all of you must have spent the 2000s and 2010s hanging out with different women than I did. I'm in my lower 30s and Every. Single. Woman. I ever engaged in relations with is single. Most have never even been in relationships they put on social media. The one who was married when I affiliated with her is now divorced (couple of kids and seems to be working as some kind of specialty "masseuse" focused mainly on men?). The longest-term girlfriend has been posting pictures of African children for the last few years along with donation requests for mission trips, and I think a third is flourishing in a career as an escort/uh, actress. There are many more who are less interesting.

I can get a chuckle from looking any of them up. Sorry you guys haven't had the same luck...

That pretty much matches my experience back in the U.S. Here in Spain almost every middle aged woman my wife or I run into is divorced or single. Huge number of them are slaving away in some desk job and are hating it, counting the days until retirement.
 

Naive

Pigeon
I'm getting the sense that all of you must have spent the 2000s and 2010s hanging out with different women than I did. I'm in my lower 30s and Every. Single. Woman. I ever engaged in relations with is single. Most have never even been in relationships they put on social media. The one who was married when I affiliated with her is now divorced (couple of kids and seems to be working as some kind of specialty "masseuse" focused mainly on men?). The longest-term girlfriend has been posting pictures of African children for the last few years along with donation requests for mission trips, and I think a third is flourishing in a career as an escort/uh, actress. There are many more who are less interesting.

I can get a chuckle from looking any of them up. Sorry you guys haven't had the same luck...
It's been a mixed bag for me. The most attractive/least broken women I dated in my 20s are pretty much all married now, most to what appears to be high beta providers, but some Chads. The 6s and borderline 7s I dated, and the hot ones with obvious issues seem to be largely single and more messed up than ever. One of my exes found a penchant for dating married men once she entered her 30s (possible escort-ish vibes), the one I most regret losing in my early 20s is now divorced in her mid-30s and I believe dates much older men now.
 

C-Note

Hummingbird
Gold Member
Just like with the China Scamdemic, you can see the hand of big pharma in this. Big pharma makes a significant chunk of change selling anti-depressants to 30+ year-old women. They have no desire nor incentive to see women happy.

What's interesting is that in spite of everything, women who are stay-at-home moms, with husbands who make enough to support the family on a single income, usually have the highest status in their social circles, even in the US. Women of all ages naturally appear to accept and support this, yet for whatever reason it doesn't occur to most of them that it would be easier for them to attain the same status if they settle down in their 20s rather than their 30s or 40s.
 

Naive

Pigeon
What's interesting is that in spite of everything, women who are stay-at-home moms, with husbands who make enough to support the family on a single income, usually have the highest status in their social circles, even in the US. Women of all ages naturally appear to accept and support this, yet for whatever reason it doesn't occur to most of them that it would be easier for them to attain the same status if they settle down in their 20s rather than their 30s or 40s.
Women assume men think like them, in that, they assume the alpha males they crave are attracted to more experienced and higher status (in terms of careers/wealth/accomplishments) women. So your average young woman, thinks she will eventually reel in more Chads if she only could prove her worth through more ladder climbing, life experience, and sexual prowess. They assume the same intrigue they see in older/experienced men, will be mirrored in a male's view of themselves (this is why I believe tattoos are so popular with young women) . Not much different than blue pill males who assume agreeability and aping female traits will get them laid.
 
Women assume men think like them, in that, they assume the alpha males they crave are attracted to more experienced and higher status (in terms of careers/wealth/job titles) women. So your average young woman, thinks she will eventually reel in more Chads if she only could prove her worth through more ladder climbing, life experience, and sexual prowess. They assume the same intrigue they see in older/experienced men, will be mirrored in a male's view of themselves (this is why I believe tattoos are so popular with young women) . Not much different than blue pill males who assume agreeability and aping female traits will get them laid.
A neat perspective but the blue pill males at least are misled by the women themselves. Heck, the first portion of red-pill thinking is to stop taking what women say literally.

I just had a dinner table discussion with my niece whose a 10/10 and just graduated college and got a high paying job. If I was a man, I'd say she won the lottery. Her plans? "Go to school to get a master's degree" and she said "I'd like to marry a rich man". Maybe she was joking. Like I said, I can't take her literally.

It wasn't my place to tell my brother's daughter how to live her life so I bit my tongue. I don't think this is driven by women thinking that all this impresses chads. Roosh put it well in one of his articles that women act like men because they believe that being a man is empowering by itself. In "where all the good men are at" reddit, someone put it best in that American society raises women to be lousy men. They think of themselves as men, but as irresponsible bachelors, like Don Draper. That they can do as they please AND enjoy feminine protection when needed. For 22 year olds, this seems attainable.

Note that like me, most people are either polite, or chickenshit, to tell women that they aren't MORE attractive at 30 than 22 and that their income doesn't provide any significant advantage in chasing chads. Nonetheless, the exceptions drive them: They see Jeff Bezos' mistress whose some 40 year old helicopter pilot and they think that can be them.
 

Naive

Pigeon
It wasn't my place to tell my brother's daughter how to live her life so I bit my tongue. I don't think this is driven by women thinking that all this impresses chads. Roosh put it well in one of his articles that women act like men because they believe that being a man is empowering by itself. In "where all the good men are at" reddit, someone put it best in that American society raises women to be lousy men. They think of themselves as men, but as irresponsible bachelors, like Don Draper. That they can do as they please AND enjoy feminine protection when needed. For 22 year olds, this seems attainable.
You are right, what I said probably applies more to women that are 7s and below, or 8s with low self esteem/alpha widow issues. If she is a 10, by age 18 she probably knows damn well she stands at the top of the food chain. I'd still argue it's an genetic maximization scheme, in that I highly doubt she is keeping any of her self proclaimed empowering goals if she happens to bag a pro-athlete/celebrity or other super elite male in her ensuing years of college (which we all know is a thinly veiled excuse to milk her looks for simp favors and Chad lays for several years). A 9-10 is actually probably the best candidate to waste years in higher-ed, because it's likely their SMV will still be extremely high into her late 20s.
 

Blade Runner

Ostrich
Orthodox
We often forget that 30+ year old women are still "young" in the eyes of many older men. There are plenty of relatively high value, single 40+, 50+ year old men. They may have been divorced raped, but they are still successful, with comfortable homes, nice cars, etc. Many of these men may not be interested in long term relationships with these women, but as long as these women maintain some decent physical qualities, they can at least maintain short term validation and provider relations with these types of older men for years or even decades.
This is definitely a good point to reiterate. There is no doubt that the breaking apart of families via divorce and leaving extra "single" (divorced) men only hurt the existing pool of men, instead of helping them by staying away, and having healthy daughters for the next generation.
 

Blade Runner

Ostrich
Orthodox
It wasn't my place to tell my brother's daughter how to live her life
Yeah it was. The truth never hurts, especially when the truth doesn't hurt and actually helps.

The problem with not leading the upper eschelon girls, if she truly is, is that they'll waste away doing grad school or riding the carousel of fun - that usually doesn't end well for anyone even though yes it can end OK.

I still don't see the fascination parents have with matching their daughters with "age appropriate men" especially in this generation. The younger people have less options and upward possibilities than ever, and there are good men in their mid to late thirties who will give their daughter easy street, and certain ones even they know and trust. Bizarro world.

Many men who work out and have worked out will be 10-20 years younger looking, at any given age throughout their life, than most of their parents who even lived to 75-90 not doing any of this. The "man is old" thing is largely folly. Are there many out of shape men though? Of course. But there are more fit well to do men living in absolute numbers higher than at any other time in history on account of physical knowledge, discipline, environment and just the fact that an increasing % of more people yields higher turnout. Just like there are more soyboys too.
 

Naive

Pigeon
The problem with not leading the upper eschelon girls, if she truly is, is that they'll waste away doing grad school or riding the carousel of fun - that usually doesn't end well for anyone even though yes it can end OK.
The upper echelon (8-10) will be fine as long as they don't ruin themselves via alcohol, drugs, or becoming too addicted to attention. Most of those women will still be very sexy in their late 20s and and can easily run it back for a touchdown, still with a top alpha male. Its the 6s and 7s that play a dangerous game, as they get regular tastes of hot girl perks in their teens, and desperately seek out more, but their looks may age more precariously and it will be increasingly harder to prop themselves up with the usual arsenal of makeup, spanx, heels, etc. Most of them will be average lookers by 30, but many will still be holding onto their glory years in their head.
 
I live in an area that has many women who are attractive and fit and toned in their High School & College years. I guess they ride the "CC" from age : 16-30. They try to get as many Alpha Male's , Muscular , tall , black men who have big dicks , and rich men. They usually "settle down" with a rich man , but they will cheat on him with high status men who can help them climb the social ladder. They never gave me the time of day , they just wanted to argue with me , or they ignored me , or they told me to get lost or to take a hike. They do not like being approached by men who are total and complete strangers to them.

They rarely are attractive past the age of 33-34. They chunk up , get big and heavy , they cut their hair short , dress very unattractive , and they think in their mind that they are every man's "dream woman" when in reality , they were during their High School - College Years , but not when they are 35 years old , 5-7 inches tall , 275 pounds , short hair , double chin , extremely bitchy , rude , argumentative leftist feminists. High Income Beta Male Simps & Providers usually get the chicks that Chad & Tyrone no longer want to hook up with.

My area is not that great to be a single guy. If you go to the gym and strike up a conversation with a woman in yoga pants and a sports bra , she will accuse you of being a creepy stalker who is a predatory male who needs to be neutered! The leftist indoctrination center's ( 4 Year Universities ) that their parents sent them off to , taught them and indoctrinated them with hard-core feminism and far left politics , the me 2 movement , etc. They are rarely in a good mood , very bitchy , and they do not like to talk to or be approached by men who are strangers to them.
 
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Graft

Kingfisher
Gold Member
Women are winning the war of the sexes. They will not die alone. There are plenty of simps and beta bux desperate waiting to commit to secular women finishing their carousel ride or Christian women ending their "season of singleness," code for unchaste serial monogamy or delusional purity waiting for Mr. Perfect.

Either way, feminism has given women a script of college -> career in the city -> dating attractive men in their 20s -> marriage and kids in early 30's (plenty of simps waiting), and divorce if there is an ounce of dissatisfaction in their marriage expectations. The government wholly supports this. Single motherhood is elevated as a virtue (stunning and brave!). Government programs are there to cushion the financial and reputational fallout of divorced women, even as they take children, money, and future earnings (alimony) away from their soon to be ex-husbands.

Women are having it all. Society is making it so.

This guy gets it. There are just too many men out there who don't see the light. The female script is all too possible in big cities, I see it every day in NYC. What's worse is that these women get used to "dating" attractive multimillionaires and even billionaires in their 20s.
 

scorpion

Hummingbird
Gold Member
I live in an area that has many women who are attractive and fit and toned in their High School & College years. I guess they ride the "CC" from age : 16-30. They try to get as many Alpha Male's , Muscular , tall , black men who have big dicks , and rich men. They usually "settle down" with a rich man , but they will cheat on him with high status men who can help them climb the social ladder. They never gave me the time of day , they just wanted to argue with me , or they ignored me , or they told me to get lost or to take a hike. They do not like being approached by men who are total and complete strangers to them.

They rarely are attractive past the age of 33-34. They chunk up , get big and heavy , they cut their hair short , dress very unattractive , and they think in their mind that they are every man's "dream woman" when in reality , they were during their High School - College Years , but not when they are 35 years old , 5-7 inches tall , 275 pounds , short hair , double chin , extremely bitchy , rude , argumentative leftist feminists. High Income Beta Male Simps & Providers usually get the chicks that Chad & Tyrone no longer want to hook up with.

My area is not that great to be a single guy. If you go to the gym and strike up a conversation with a woman in yoga pants and a sports bra , she will accuse you of being a creepy stalker who is a predatory male who needs to be neutered! The leftist indoctrination center's ( 4 Year Universities ) that their parents sent them off to , taught them and indoctrinated them with hard-core feminism and far left politics , the me 2 movement , etc. They are rarely in a good mood , very bitchy , and they do not like to talk to or be approached by men who are strangers to them.

Baron_Gangrelle, I have some harsh words for you. But they need to be said for your own benefit.

Your posts are garbage. Nothing but whining and negativity. You come across as a jealous loser. You don't chase women unsuccessfully for 15 years then get to suddenly declare yourself a MGTOW to salvage some semblance of pride. You aren't a "man who went his own way". You're a man who got sent on his own way by being rejected over and over. You are simply a lifelong failure with women and you're bitter about it. Go post this crap at some MGTOW forum. These kinds of posts would have been an embarrassment on the old RVF, much less the RVF of today.

Please elevate your posting game.
 

iop890

Peacock
Orthodox Catechumen
Gold Member
I live in an area that has many women who are attractive and fit and toned in their High School & College years. I guess they ride the "CC" from age : 16-30. They try to get as many Alpha Male's , Muscular , tall , black men who have big dicks , and rich men.

I don't want to pile on too much since Scorpion already responded but man shut up. This is incel forum level cringe.

I swear the years of black man/white woman propaganda in advertising and entertainment has affected men way more than women. White women remain the least likely demographic to date out even after decades of propaganda but white men that spend too much time on the internet seem totally demoralized regardless.

Stop watching porn and TV, it's making you cringe-post.
 

MartyMcFly

Woodpecker
This article is a few years old but still valid. The reason many women in China are unmarried in their 30's is because they refuse to 'marry down.' It is becoming like Afghanistan where many men can't afford to buy wives (only the money numbers are much higher in China due to higher wages). China could have solved this problem years ago if they simply had a 'one son policy' instead of a one-child policy. People would have been allowed to keep trying if they kept having daughters instead of aborting them. Sadly, China didn't think far enough ahead. Now, many women are demanding their boyfriends have nice apartments and cars before being allowed to marry them. I would leave such a woman instantly-greediness and materialism are huge turnoffs, but many men (and their parents who provide financial help) play the game and push themselves hard to meet these demands (China is quite blue pilled actually).

China encourages women to work too much and go to university just like the USA does. I guess this is common in cultures that are materialistic.

 
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