Single women in their 30s/40s are starting to realize they will die alone

Viktor Zeegelaar

Ostrich
Orthodox Inquirer
The problem when you hit your 40s and you haven't realized until then that the atheist/secular/materialist/subjective worldview that has been presented to you is a lie, you're late to the party. Is it impossible to turn? No it isn't. However, thought patterns and structures in life are very rigid then. Only a massive personal crisis will get you out of the abyss. I feel fortunate that I've seen the lie relatively early, in my late 20s, but even then it is very hard to turn your worldview entirely upside down.
 

DeusLuxMeaEst

Pelican
Orthodox Inquirer
Gold Member
It's not good for men to wait either. I'm in my late 30s, if I get married now and immediately have kids, I'll be approaching retirement when they graduate college. How about playing sports with my teenage son in my mid 50s, injuries and all? I'd say the early 30s are best.

A lie that I bought was 'wait until you are secure' Unless you're a multimillionaire that will never happen.

A silver lining. I made a commitment to meeting someone. I now have several prospects from their late 20s to early 30s, all Christians, and all NOT American, (but live here) I will see how it goes, but am not giving up.
 

Arcite

Sparrow
You’re not wrong, although in my defense I was speaking theoretically, not in practice. It’s not feasible to expect men to act together to suppress the awful behavior of women, but that doesn’t mean that over decades thirsty, desperate men haven’t accepted and then normalized it, leaving us in the position where we are today.

Indeed, I’m way more pessimistic than probably most people here because I feel there’s no going back at this point. No “unionized” movement- MGTOW, men’s rights groups- nobody can stop it now.
In one sense I think you're correct, but in another sense I find it hard to blame men as a whole, because at each step of the way, the changes were so incrementally small, and in those men's world at the time, it would have seemed inconceivable for things ever to reach this point. Take women's suffrage as an example. It's been a disaster, but to the men who had the political power at the time and let it happen, women had always been marriage-and-family-oriented. Society had been so successful for so long at making them that way, that it seemed like they just inherently were that way by nature.

If there's one group of men I'm comfortable assigning blame to, it's the baby boomer fathers of daughters. They were the first generation to send their daughters off to college en masse, be OK with them taking birth control and spending their twenties slutting it up, and encourage them to pursue independent careers, with the assumption that marriage and family would just magically happen for them someday just like it always had with everyone.
This is very true which is why I reiterated the only solution. I used to think that economic hard times might wake women up but empirically there is greater data that they'll just become more sugary/semipro in nature given the culture.
Yes, when all this Wuhan virus craziness started, I thought maybe there's about to be another Great Depression, and it will become much harder for single women to support themselves, and all these women, faced with impending homelessness and starvation, will be forced to hitch their wagons to marriage-minded men. Instead, the powers that be just doubled down: more money printing, more affirmative-action make-work jobs, more third-world illegal immigrants to provide cheap manual labor, all making it even easier for single young women to live on their own and do whatever they want.

I agree, we need our own modern-day Constantine, an emperor to declare Christianity the law of the land, and impose traditional values from the top down.
 
@ DeusLuxMeaEst

"I'm in my late 30s, if I get married now and immediately have kids, I'll be approaching retirement when they graduate college. How about playing sports with my teenage son in my mid 50s, injuries and all? I'd say the early 30s are best"

How many married men have said the following - "I got married too young" / "I wasn't mature enough" / "I never got to sow my wild oats"? It will never be the right time to get married and start a family. This is when faith and trust in God's providence comes in.
 
The problem with this logic is that the solution requires that men act in concert, "unionizing" as it were, whereas men are responding to market forces as individuals. What is an individual man who wants marriage and children to do? You think an entire generation of men is going to be willing to forgo marriage and family, and die alone, just to teach women a lesson? I'm 45 and have never been married nor had children. At my age, I'm not going to get a 23 year old. If a good-looking, in shape for her age 32 year old, who in my judgment is likely to be able to have a baby or two and not likely to divorce me, comes along and is interested, I'll take it. I don't like the incentive I'm creating, I don't like the thought that the 23-year-olds will be looking at her and saying "see, she's 'had it all,' I can too!" But the alternative is dying alone in a nursing home being beaten by a Nigerian CNA, knowing that once I'm gone no one will remember me at all.

This much-vaunted "marriage strike" is not happening.

Marriage levels in the U.S. are at their lowest since they started being recorded, which is not good. And unfortunately, birth rates are plunging, too.

You should consider relocating to the 3rd world to find a wife and raise a family... In the Philippines, at your age, you could easily find a quality bride in her twenties...
 

Blade Runner

Ostrich
Orthodox
Yes, the thing is that for the successful and less successful (monetarily) alike, the cost of living is either too high in the States, the culture is rotten for the foreseeable future, and even if you do have material wealth, do you want to be a player and "have fun" for the rest of your days? For short stints it might be considered fun, but the vast time in between, if you still have a soul, it is very empty. The devil is in those details though because as described, the ability to find a woman as a helpmate that isn't either trying to be like a man or is fat/ugly, is very hard. And without turning into a monk, you at least want some companionship here or there, it is only natural - though it may be misguided. It's a very challenging situation, indeed. Lord have mercy.
 
Very good post. Its a huge challenge, but I think there will be real "winners" coming out. I just came from an spontanous open air mess.... und it was very enriching. True believers within, which astonished me. We are able to stay the salt of the world, and shine as a light!
 

SlickyBoy

Hummingbird
Marriage levels in the U.S. are at their lowest since they started being recorded, which is not good. And unfortunately, birth rates are plunging, too.

You should consider relocating to the 3rd world to find a wife and raise a family... In the Philippines, at your age, you could easily find a quality bride in her twenties...
The Phils and most of SEA needs to sort a lot of things out with their stupid vacccine/virus/quarantine policy indecision before that option starts to look viable again. But I agree, if/when the dust finally settles this is a viable option. Even with smartphone penetration spreading like a cancer there are millions of Philippine women who still value their fertility.
 

DeusLuxMeaEst

Pelican
Orthodox Inquirer
Gold Member

Matt Walsh, 3/4 based and 1/4 cringe, triggers SJWs and concern trolls with very good advice. The attitudes in the replies are part of the reason we have so many cat ladies and wine aunts today.

He's absolutely right. In the corporate world I've worked with several women who I never even knew were married, not even the hyphenated name, they got married and kept their own last name.

Needless to say it was well known that they fornicated.

Why would a women not take her husbands name?

She's a feminist, promiscious, and wants her freedom.

She's getting married for the appearance, and to have a 'partner' who she will readily cheat on.
 

Arcite

Sparrow
Marriage levels in the U.S. are at their lowest since they started being recorded, which is not good. And unfortunately, birth rates are plunging, too.

You should consider relocating to the 3rd world to find a wife and raise a family... In the Philippines, at your age, you could easily find a quality bride in her twenties...
No, thanks. To each his own, but there is just no attraction or desire there on my part. As a white guy, I personally don't see the point in making non-white babies, especially since both my siblings have gone that route (my brother with an East Asian woman, and my sister with a South American man.) Plus, the Filipino accent is possibly the most annoying one in the world to me; apparently their language doesn't have a "th" sound, so for example, they pronounce "their" as "dare." Drives me crazy.
 

Godward

Robin
She's getting married for the appearance, and to have a 'partner' who she will readily cheat on.

Yes. And not to forget: to have a lucrative insurance policy for when she is ready to 'move on', namely alimony. Marrying a Secular woman is like gambling all your earnings in Las Vegas, with the woman being the Casino. It is no coincidence that Las Vegas is such a walhalla for Secular marriages; they are essentially the same thing. It goes without saying, but I strongly recommend all men to marry only traditional, faithful women (and vice versa). The only reasonable alternative is living a celibate life as a priest, monk, nun, blessed virgin, numerary, etcetera. The time, energy and money saved could then be used to advance the Church and Christian civilization, and quality whisky.
 

Athanasius

Pelican
He's absolutely right. In the corporate world I've worked with several women who I never even knew were married, not even the hyphenated name, they got married and kept their own last name.

Needless to say it was well known that they fornicated.

Why would a women not take her husbands name?

She's a feminist, promiscious, and wants her freedom.

She's getting married for the appearance, and to have a 'partner' who she will readily cheat on.
At root, it's often a hatred of God. The father gives the bride to the husband. In other words, he transfers authority for her protection and welfare to him. The woman taking the man's last name is another indicator of the principle of male headship, that husbands are to love their wives and wives are to submit to their husbands.

For generations, the subversive, effeminate move of those who hate male headship inside the church is to chip away at the clear principle with a thousand cuts, using the types of arguments that would eliminate authority altogether (e.g. instances of abuse).
 

Garuda

Pelican

Matt Walsh, 3/4 based and 1/4 cringe, triggers SJWs and concern trolls with very good advice. The attitudes in the replies are part of the reason we have so many cat ladies and wine aunts today.
Based on personal experience, this is really good advice. My mom didn't take my dad's surname and I ended up with one of those long double-barreled ones. They divorced about decade and a half later.
 

Solitarius

Sparrow
Here you can see that im not (complety) "nuts"... this stuff was falling down from heaven. And allmost nobody cared about it. Does it look like "spider shit"?!
It seems probable that the aerial spraying will be used in conjunction with the injections as well. The shots very likely contain a component which enables them to be used as a binary weapon, as a fail-safe measure if nothing else. Those whose immune systems aren't totally destroyed & who somehow survive the ravages of the spike proteins can be sprayed with something which will finish them. I doubt they would spray something that would kill an uninjected person except as a last resort due to the danger such a thing would pose to their own precious hides. As for what they spray now, which has a cumulative effect, they undoubtedly have various antidotes & treatments to stop it from harming themselves.
 

Arcite

Sparrow
No, thanks. To each his own, but there is just no attraction or desire there on my part. As a white guy, I personally don't see the point in making non-white babies, especially since both my siblings have gone that route (my brother with an East Asian woman, and my sister with a South American man.) Plus, the Filipino accent is possibly the most annoying one in the world to me; apparently their language doesn't have a "th" sound, so for example, they pronounce "their" as "dare." Drives me crazy.
I'm glad this post is getting some likes. I was actually worried I'd be attacked for it. It's always seemed to me the love for sexpatriating was well-nigh universal on forums like this one.
 

gat

Robin
THANK YOU for your appreciation. This weekend will be like a milestone. Where I live, there is a huge storm, but tommorow also a huge revival in a park (I hope). A Pastor will preach the GOSPEL to the lost- and we expect about 500 people- I did my job and invited about 5 "hungry" people... one of them has the potential to be a PROPHET! I will speak to the LORD tommorow.... and DEMAND answers. I will ask also to BLESS the sheep in this congregration! I wil demand that he shows me the secret code of the Matrix.... just yesterday I was in a supermarket and get in contact with a women, who didnt have money to buy what she needed, I offered her to buy what she needs.... and it happened! It gave me pleasure that she gave me a sandwich out of her bag, so humble, but she gave what she had! I thank ROOSH (!) for this plattform,.... and I hope it will (keep) give(ing) water to seed, that some people will seriosly injure one of the beasts horn or head! The"battle" didnt even start yet... we are just collecting our weapons, provided from GOD. And Im very THANKFULL to ROSH that he was able to make such a clear statement regarding the vaccine.... HE reached people in the darkest hour! Im very proud that I had the opurunity to shake hands with him! Thats how I found the Forum, when he made the Video and PROCLAIMED that its BETTER to STARVE to DEATH, than take the (fake) Jewish poison! Roosh is the master here!
Is Bronze Age Pervert back on the forum?
 
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