SJW's are trying to change the way we play Baseball (culture clash in MLB)

[EL CHAPO]

Given OP's name and profile pic and the content in this thread, I've never been more curious as to the appearance of a dude on this forum. Aside from Tuthmosis. I would figure he's hispanic or latino but, but then seems to hate hispanic culture destroying 'his culture' in baseball. Look at his post history, and the race stuff:game stuff ratio is like 15:1. If I had to put my money on it, he's probably a self-loathing white latino. Come on man, embrace your heritage... strut your stuff, look at your home runs, admire your work. Don't be so white bread.

I'm Black

I don't "hate" Hispanic culture, I simply don't want it to take over baseball. I like Latin culture, given my profile pic.

As a baseball lover, I simply want it to stay how it is. We don't need all this showboating and degenerate celebrating in a gentleman's sport. It simply comes down to that.

 

[kosko]

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[Game_Started]

If a pitcher is mad that a guy is looking at his homer a little too long, he should quit being a little bitch and pitch better. That's the most retarded unwritten rule ever. "What? I shouldn't like the fact that I scored??"

And Chapo, serious question, are you upset with the drop in black players with the sport?

 

[TonySandos]

I just want to point out the atrocious anti-racism signaling, borderline witch hunt tactics and assumption of whiteness or self-hating latino background.

Like I've said before lately because it's become very apparent; when ethno-cultural discussions set out in a very specific tone (anything not overtly favorable to non-white cultural practices) there's a predictable backlash that's too similar to Nazi witch hunting for self-proclaimed perceptive and intellectually daring men.

Look at the previous responses and reverse the color scheme. There isn't that type of backlash for those threads. It's more humorous reading the first page already knowing Chapo was a black guy. Even a black guy who wants mainstream American culture to be preserved is categorized as utter racism of the kkk brand.

You guys should be ashamed of yourselves.

 

[nomadbrah]

I don't care about baseball, but the underlying theme is conflict of proper 'battleground' eticette, namely the Northern European/Anglo-Saxon concepts of a fair fight and graciousness in both victory and defeat. These are hugely important and historical factors for Northern Euro whites which is why they react so strongly I assume.

 

[kaotic]

OP bows out because he doesn't want this to become a "race thread" when he immediately goes into a tirade about Latin players destroying baseball.

Retreats with his tail between his legs when called out by the forum.

Do u even baseball bro ?

Because I did for 12 years, this shit has been going on for YEARS. It isn't racial, it's generational - new up and comers versus old schoolers. Old schoolers hate how the new guys act, they break rules all the time.

This is about enforcement of gentleman's agreements. If you don't like it, don't play the sport. If you break the rules, you'll get jawed or get in a fight.

You damn right I'm beading a guy in the back of the numbers on the opposite team, if a pitcher hit one of my brothers intentionally.

You also need to remember, lot of of prima donnas are in baseball also.

You're black right ? I remember baseball was a white only sport and they had the black NLBM.

I can't believe Jackie Robinson shook up baseball and ruined my favorite sport by stealing all those bases, he should respect the sport and stay in the NLBM. :dodgy:

:gtfo:

 

[EL CHAPO]

OP bows out because he doesn't want this to become a "race thread" when he immediately goes into a tirade about Latin players destroying baseball.

Retreats with his tail between his legs when called out by the forum.

Do u even baseball bro ?

Because I did for 12 years, this shit has been going on for YEARS. It isn't racial, it's generational - new up and comers versus old schoolers. Old schoolers hate how the new guys act, they break rules all the time.

This is about enforcement of gentleman's agreements. If you don't like it, don't play the sport. If you break the rules, you'll get jawed or get in a fight.

You damn right I'm beading a guy in the back of the numbers on the opposite team, if a pitcher hit one of my brothers intentionally.

You also need to remember, lot of of prima donnas are in baseball also.

You're black right ? I remember baseball was a white only sport and they had the black NLBM.

I can't believe Jackie Robinson shook up baseball and ruined my favorite sport by stealing all those bases, he should respect the sport and stay in the NLBM. :dodgy:

Woh, woh, woh! Chill out man, where did I ever say I wanted to keep baseball strictly "white"?

I don't mind the Latino players. Baseball teams go to great lengths to send scouts down to Miami, Texas, the Caribbean, Central and South America with the hope of finding the next Sammy Sosa or Albert Pujols. I don't have a problem with that at all. If its good for the teams involved, then more power to them. What I do mind is the antics, the lame celebrations from these Latino players and their lack of respect for the game and its rules that has given them everything. If you're coming into my house and not respect my rules, then gtfo! Anybody who respects the rules is welcomed with open arms.

Its true what I say in terms of the league losing ratings because of this. These very different players from very different cultures who come here and fuck shit up and have no concept for the unwritten rules of baseball. In my opinion, ratings have plummeted because of this because these new Latin players have no respect for the game, its rules and are playing the game how they want to play it, thus denigrating the integrity of the game altogether which led to people not watching anymore.

Is that racist to point out? Really? Then I feel sorry for you. People are too damn sensitive nowadays.

As a Black man, I know this first hand. The same thing happened to basketball in the 70s when ratings dropped because of the influx of Black players who would showboat, dunk, and treat the game as a joke, which disgusted mainstream America. Thank God for Larry Byrd who came in and restored ratings in mainstream America that made it watchable for fans of all colors later on, or else basketball would have been extinct.

Something similar is occurring in baseball now, but with no hope in sight of it getting better.

I'll simply put it like this.

Follow the rules, welcome aboard.
Don't follow the rules, then gtfo!

 

[teh_skeeze]

I'm done talking about this as I've said all there is to say. If you guys like bat flipping so much, you should watch Korean baseball. Look at this epic bat flip.

https://cdn.streamable.com/video/webm/yrr6.webm

Note: It's a webm, I don't know how to embed it.

 

[EL CHAPO]

And Chapo, serious question, are you upset with the drop in black players with the sport?

Yes I am. I think Major League Baseball as a whole has done a poor job of attracting young Black men to play baseball. When you think of guys like Jackie Robinson, Willie Mays, Barry Bonds, Gary Sheffield, and others, there was a big interest in baseball among Black Americans.

Part of the reason I think the drop in Black players has occurred is because teams have set up shop and outsourced its jobs to Latin America setting up baseball clinics and camps in Puerto Rico, Northern Mexico, Dominican Republic, Venezuela and others and those are the kids you're going to develop. Those resources used to be in places like the Bronx in New York, or Georgia, Chicago, Detroit where young Black kids would play baseball everyday, but in the last 15 years or so the resources have been outsourced to Latin America.

Another reason is because you have young Black men who like listening to gangster rap and are addicted to Hip Hop culture and sports like Basketball and Football give them that platform. In Basketball you see people like 50 cent, Snoop Dogg, Pitbull, Kanye West perform during half-time shows, same with Football. In Baseball is more conservative and old-school. That's the reason why many young Black Americans are not that into baseball nowadays. The mindset needs to change.

 

[Sexus]

This coming from a baseball player of many years, who specialized in and was rostered for pitching, catching, and third base, but who no longer plays or watches the sport (except with his kids, for fun): I agree with those who call foul on the idea of SJW/multicultural clash as the reason for the decline of the popularity of baseball. While I have no statistics, my gut feeling is that a stronger argument could be made for the decline as being attributed to the change from knicker-style uniforms to long-pants style. And then.... reaching into the hat and pulling out the alignments of the "fashion experts" who convinced MLB (in both divisions) to outfit the teams in the new duds.

 

[kaotic]

What I do mind is the antics, the lame celebrations from these Latino players and their lack of respect for the game and its rules that has given them everything. If you're coming into my house and not respect my rules, then gtfo! Anybody who respects the rules is welcomed with open arms.

I think of a few non latin players that have lame celebrations, same goes for Latin players that are leaders.

Like I said - this is a generational change more than racial.

Is that racist to point out? Really? Then I feel sorry for you. People are too damn sensitive nowadays.

Sorry ? Sensitive ? Seriously ?

No ones offended, just calling you out on the fallacies of your arguments, you're really reaching for straws here. Maybe it's just me, but like I said you can find all sorts of players breaking unspoken rules.

As a Black man, I know this first hand. The same thing happened to basketball in the 70s when ratings dropped because of the influx of Black players who would showboat, dunk, and treat the game as a joke, which disgusted mainstream America. Thank God for Larry Byrd who came in and restored ratings in mainstream America that made it watchable for fans of all colors later on, or else basketball would have been extinct.

Something about this just sounds self loathing, idk man. I get what you're saying this seems off.

Something similar is occurring in baseball now, but with no hope in sight of it getting better.

Follow the rules, welcome aboard.
Don't follow the rules, then gtfo!

Rules are ever changing and being broken, if you haven't looked at our government lately. Come on now.[/quote]

 

[TigerMandingo]

The problem with baseball isn't the influx of Latino players, it's the fact that the season is too damn long and so are the games. Speed the game up. They should have some sort of game clock like every other sport.

You have 5 seconds to step into the batter's box. None of this shuffling around with gloves, spitting, and grabbing your balls.

 

[Kamikaze]

I just want to point out the atrocious anti-racism signaling, borderline witch hunt tactics and assumption of whiteness or self-hating latino background.

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You guys should be ashamed of yourselves.

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Put it over the plate and I'm swinging.

 

[kosko]

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[Bear Hands]

For ratings chat: Do MLB network subscriptions factor into these ratings? How about the fact that the live gate for MLB is UP this year? MLB doesn't need to suck the advertising tit as hard as the other professional sports because advertising is not such as huge a chunk of the revenue stream. They get thousands of people into 15 stadiums 7 days a week for 6 months out of the year.

Baseball is a generational game. MLB's current commissioner Rob Manfred has cited polls that show most of today's fans (about 70%) played the game as children. Fathers pass down love of the game to their sons. There's a lot of nuance to the game that requires a father's guidance to understand. The stars of the game usually learned how to throw, hit, and catch with their fathers before they were old enough to step into little league. So why is popularity down? Fathers are not with their children as much. Single parent homes are on the rise. Parents are working more. Fathers come to homes that are not cared for and have to devote their after-work energy to something besides their kids. Children are growing up in areas where they cannot just go outside and start a pickup baseball game in an open field. Ask yourself which demographics have less involvement from fathers now than in the past.

 

[teh_skeeze]

That's a good point I failed to mention Bear Hands. It seems the sports that are gaining in popularity mostly require you to be born big, strong, and fast. Baseball is a game of skill that takes years to master.

 

[uptownguy]

Now theyve got a woman doing the analysis on the playoff game. I think she played softball or something.

 

[cascadecombo]

That's a good point I failed to mention Bear Hands. It seems the sports that are gaining in popularity mostly require you to be born big, strong, and fast. Baseball is a game of skill that takes years to master.

What sport doesn't take years to master? Serious question.

 

[teh_skeeze]

That's a good point I failed to mention Bear Hands. It seems the sports that are gaining in popularity mostly require you to be born big, strong, and fast. Baseball is a game of skill that takes years to master.

What sport doesn't take years to master? Serious question.

Jason Pierre-Paul only played football for 5 years before making it to the NFL. He only played 1 season of D1. Most baseball players spend 5 years in the minors before making it to the show. You have to be really damn good to even sniff the minors.

That's not to say that basketball and football don't take a lot of skill. It's that you need to be a genetic freak to make it to the higher levels. This is probably what makes these sports more appealing. The superhuman feats these athletes are able to accomplish. Baseball players are "normal".

Mastery was probably a poor choice of words. Honing their skills is probably more apt.

 

[ManVsMachine]

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