Social Impacts & Russophobia as a Result of the Russian-Ukrainian War

thetruewhitenorth

Kingfisher
Orthodox
The fact she is a German white woman that is anti-Russian makes me assume she also supports immigration from Iraq, Islamic Africa, and Afghanistan where people have even less fear of death (due to strong trust in Allah and being used to a harder life) and also likely more violent than Russians (at the very least, individuals are more comfortable with using bombs to attack those that disagree with them). Of course she likely doesn't see the contradiction.

However, part of me gets why she fears Russians when thinking back to how German women were treated by them at the end of WWII, especially in Berlin. Just as many Chinese and Koreans still dislike Japanese today, many Europeans fear Russians due to WWII.
Mass rapes of German women by soviet soldiers is a lie. Same like today Ukraine claims tens of thousands (!!) of their women were raped by Russians.

Its all a non stop smear campaign.
 

DanielH

Ostrich
Moderator
Orthodox
My wife has been getting hate mail from one of her Ukrainian aunts because we've been going to an OCA church with Russians in it. The priest himself is Ukrainian, but without meeting him or going there she called him Russian, and asked my wife why she hates her ancestral church and something along the lines of us forsaking the Ukrainian Church by having our son baptized in the OCA instead of the UOC of USA. Lots of disdain for Russians. She herself doesn't go to church so don't let this make you think less of the faithful in the Ukrainian Church who do go. I know many Ukrainians and they seem to be flocking to church and repenting. My son's Godfather is Russian so the hate will likely get worse from my wife's family when they find out. Oh well, I chose my church and my son's Godparents based on their zeal and positive spiritual qualities, not their ethnicity. Culture or nationality are of infinitely less importance than the Church.
 
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Stoyan

Pelican
Orthodox
Culture or nationality are of infinitely less importance than the Church.
Well my opinion is that culture and religion go hand in hand like a couple. Religion influences on culture and vice versa. And having your own distinctive culture provides a framework for preserving your religion when confronted with secular influences. I don't believe in the secular western view of religion as just a simple belief which is disjoined from the culture or nationality. Religion is not just a belief system, it's a way of life, an entire mindset, it's own associated culture. Just like Islam is associated with the Middle Eastern culture, and Buddhism is associated with the East Asian culture, Orthodoxy is associated with the Eastern European culture.

I agree with the mindset of the Old Believers. The main thing is to preserve the ancient Russian culture, and reject the fake made up western wokeist culture wholesale.

 

Going strong

Crow
Orthodox Inquirer
Gold Member
The world-famous, wooden Russian church of Saint Seraphim of Sarov, situated in the 15th area of Paris, has been totally burnt (with three Orthodox priests barely escaping the flames). The police are baffled (which is reminiscent of the Notre Dame arson) and offer no comment, though arson is heavily suspected (many Orthodox churches have been tagged or burglarized in France these last months)... The invaluable collection of icons, is lost.

Meanwhile, 20 French police officers and MPs, working hand in hand with Zelensky's thugs, are in Ukraine to collect "proofs" that the Russian army "is committing war crimes", in order to try and drag V. Putin, someday, to The Hague. Sad.
 
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infowarrior1

Crow
Protestant
The fact she is a German white woman that is anti-Russian makes me assume she also supports immigration from Iraq, Islamic Africa, and Afghanistan where people have even less fear of death (due to strong trust in Allah and being used to a harder life) and also likely more violent than Russians (at the very least, individuals are more comfortable with using bombs to attack those that disagree with them). Of course she likely doesn't see the contradiction.

However, part of me gets why she fears Russians when thinking back to how German women were treated by them at the end of WWII, especially in Berlin. Just as many Chinese and Koreans still dislike Japanese today, many Europeans fear Russians due to WWII.

Easier to see more closely related ethnic groups as enemies. Rather than the truly foreign. At least to leftoids. Weird.
 

infowarrior1

Crow
Protestant
My wife has been getting hate mail from one of her Ukrainian aunts because we've been going to an OCA church with Russians in it. The priest himself is Ukrainian, but without meeting him or going there she called him Russian, and asked my wife why she hates her ancestral church and something along the lines of us forsaking the Ukrainian Church by having our son baptized in the OCA instead of the UOC of USA. Lots of disdain for Russians. She herself doesn't go to church so don't let this make you think less of the faithful in the Ukrainian Church who do go. I know many Ukrainians and they seem to be flocking to church and repenting. My son's Godfather is Russian so the hate will likely get worse from my wife's family when they find out. Oh well, I chose my church and my son's Godparents based on their zeal and positive spiritual qualities, not their ethnicity. Culture or nationality are of infinitely less importance than the Church.

Its quite an evil to hold descendants responsible for the crimes of their ancestors even if true. If they don't continue in their sins. God doesn't condemn the truly Righteous descendants of evil men. Yet unfortunately the sin nature distorts our tribalism.
 

Enoch

Hummingbird
Mass rapes of German women by soviet soldiers is a lie. Same like today Ukraine claims tens of thousands (!!) of their women were raped by Russians.

Its all a non stop smear campaign.
I'm very open to alternative history but haven't heard much pushback against the Rape of Berlin narrative - not to get all reddit on you but where have you been reading about that?
 

thetruewhitenorth

Kingfisher
Orthodox
I'm very open to alternative history but haven't heard much pushback against the Rape of Berlin narrative - not to get all reddit on you but where have you been reading about that?
Sometimes its not about whether you "read something from somewhere". If I were to cite particular authors or books or articles, how does it make a credible source to you?

I believe when searching for truth, its important to step back to see a bigger picture, to see who disseminates certain information and how what they claim benefits them. Then you can start seeing patterns. Of course, it wont be correct all the time, but more likely will be correct most of the time.

Also, most of the people look at events through layers and layers of various biases such as their belief system, upbringing, religion or lack of, family status, nationality, ethnicity and so on.

For instance, knowing most of Liberal dogmas of the day, its easy to look at the mainstream news and determine where they lie.

Example (a liberal dogma): all blacks are innocent, all whites have malicious intent.

You read in the news that a person (no reference to ethnicity) in Chicago stabbed someone in the bank and stole their money. Since the ethnicity is not mentioned by the media we can safely say he was black.

Same with pretty much any story about Russia.

A western narrative: everything about Russia has to be bad, always in negative light (doesnt matter if its a Russian Empire, USSR, Russian Federation).

Examples: Soviet soldiers raped millions of German women. Half the population in USSR was in Gulags. Stalin enjoyed kicking puppies in the stomach. And so on.

If say Soviet soldiers did what anglo-judeo propaganda was saying, wouldn't there be probably hundreds of thousands babies born from around 1944-1945?

Also, its like with holocaust. There's no mentioning of it in either Rosevelt's or Churchell's memoirs (not one word). Then in the 60s and moving forward we start hearing about it with increasing intensity. Why? Because a certain group started taking over the institutions and pushing narratives that benefit them.
 

Stoyan

Pelican
Orthodox
Wrong. Your worldview represents the theoretical, moralizing phenomenon known as the media mind, in which people act based on simple pleasures and avoiding inconveniences, completely ignoring the depth of their actual motivations, culture and actual moral convictions.

In reality, Russians subjected to this sort of broad ethnic-based hatred and discrimination are much more likely to think "wow, Putin was right about these people".

I mean, Daniil Medvedev isn't a representative of Russia or a member of a Russian state delegation. He's an ordinary, private person who resides in Monte Carlo and lives in France. He just happens to have been born in Russia, yet that's enough of an excuse for him to be brutalized, mocked, banned from work and, most likely, even have his property seized down the line.

We're talking gross, 18th-century type of racism and discrimination here, only now instead of "dumb Negros" or "weird small-eyed yellow people" it's "evil homophobic Russians".

Be honest. How do you think that treatment will be interpreted by the average Russian? Do you think they're likely to conclude "oh well, if we just get rid of Putin, these people will suddenly become nice to us"?

I don't think so.
The propoganda about "evil homophobic Russians" has always been around. Take a look at these pictures drawn by western artists. The so-called "Cold War" was an anti-Russian civilizational conflict. It was never about Communism. Now that Russia is no longer Communist, it is still the main bogey man. We have gone full circle.

American false patriots claim that the US is being taken over by Communists. My take is that they have been ruled by the same people all along. It was just a charade.

Anyway, the pictures.

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Garuda

Pelican
Protestant
Russian woman in Sweden was tired of being villainized so she tore down a pro-Ukraine display and berated a Ukrainian. She was fired from her job for it.

 

CaliforniaBased

Robin
Catholic
In all truths I have never met anyone who displays any statement or image of support for Ukraine. I am in a smaller city in rural California.
 
In Spain, a Ukrainian attacked his boss with pepper spray for being Russian


"In Spain, a Ukrainian refugee attacked his Russian boss with pepper spray. The reason was the nationality of the girl.
Russian Christina owns her cafe in the Spanish town of Orihuela Costa, where she hired a refugee from Odessa as a cook. A young man named Denis worked in this institution for only half a month and, as it turned out later, during this short period of time he set his Ukrainian colleagues against the boss, threatened to break the windows in the cafe and destroy the institution.
A few days later, the refugee attacked the entrepreneur's husband, and sprayed pepper spray into the girl's face. Christina went to the doctors, and in the hospital she was diagnosed with beatings. The girl said that she intends to bring the case to court.
“I will shout to everyone everywhere that I am Russian, because, as I understand it, we have already been divided, and I will protect my people while in Spain,” the victim summed up."
 
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