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<blockquote data-quote="Tiger Man" data-source="post: 1226747" data-attributes="member: 14216">Two things can be right at the same time and you are both right. When I started on my online dating journey, I had no public social media or anything like that. In hindsight, it demonstrably hurt my leads/contacts/bangs/etc. The process of developing a social media presence (solely for online game) settled the matter for me. You can pull a lot more with a well-curated online presence (which, incidentally, can and will most likely will be complete bullshit). But that gets to Shemp's points. As I believe I mentioned in my social media breakdown, I still consider social circle to be NUMBER ONE, the best, hands-down way to get girls. It is better quality in terms of all aspects. You can pre-screen in a way that online purposely obfuscates. It is just better. In &quot;the current year&quot; it may be better for straight bangs as well. I have started keeping backup copies of every message that a girl and I exchange. I never thought to do that a few years ago. At least you know the girls in your social circle and some of your friends might come to your defense if you get #meetoo'd. I think the question of social media and game comes down to where you are in the game life-cycle - as it appears to apply to most men. Young or young-in-game guys who are looking to increase their notch count surely benefit from all of this nonsense. Guys who are a bit older and focus on STRs, LTRs, and marriage, probably see a decreasing ROI on using much of this stuff. And if you are married with kids, you should be way more focused on what your kids (and perhaps your wife) are doing on social media.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Tiger Man, post: 1226747, member: 14216"] Two things can be right at the same time and you are both right. When I started on my online dating journey, I had no public social media or anything like that. In hindsight, it demonstrably hurt my leads/contacts/bangs/etc. The process of developing a social media presence (solely for online game) settled the matter for me. You can pull a lot more with a well-curated online presence (which, incidentally, can and will most likely will be complete bullshit). But that gets to Shemp's points. As I believe I mentioned in my social media breakdown, I still consider social circle to be NUMBER ONE, the best, hands-down way to get girls. It is better quality in terms of all aspects. You can pre-screen in a way that online purposely obfuscates. It is just better. In "the current year" it may be better for straight bangs as well. I have started keeping backup copies of every message that a girl and I exchange. I never thought to do that a few years ago. At least you know the girls in your social circle and some of your friends might come to your defense if you get #meetoo'd. I think the question of social media and game comes down to where you are in the game life-cycle - as it appears to apply to most men. Young or young-in-game guys who are looking to increase their notch count surely benefit from all of this nonsense. Guys who are a bit older and focus on STRs, LTRs, and marriage, probably see a decreasing ROI on using much of this stuff. And if you are married with kids, you should be way more focused on what your kids (and perhaps your wife) are doing on social media. [/QUOTE]

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