Society Is Losing It's Connection With Objective Reality
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Dan Handler
Sparrow
In my post below from a previous thread about anti-androgens, it says that the USA has already started to restrict the use of anti-androgens like Bisphenol-A that can lower testosterone and thus intelligence in 2012:
Supplements and foods that may DECREASE testosterone
How about taking supplements that help in boosting testosterone levels?
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Not sure if MORE people are becoming detached from reality or if its just more obvious now as anyone can communicate with the world using social media and publicly demonstrate how dumbed down they are.
Let's consider all the tricks that got successfully played on Boomers.
Vietnam
War on Drugs
War on Poverty
Great Society
Food pyramid
Vaccines
Circumcision
Operation Enduring Freedom (truly dystopian)
Debt - mortgage/ car/ credit card/ on and on
Not taking into account more controversial things such as
9/11
JFK
Moon Landing
Let's consider all the tricks that got successfully played on Boomers.
Vietnam
War on Drugs
War on Poverty
Great Society
Food pyramid
Vaccines
Circumcision
Operation Enduring Freedom (truly dystopian)
Debt - mortgage/ car/ credit card/ on and on
Not taking into account more controversial things such as
9/11
JFK
Moon Landing
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ilostabet
Pelican
The very idea of 'objective reality' is already a departure from Truth, and it's the overall achievement of Modernity. It only works for making machines (which are purely objective), but it destroys any possibility of understanding anything - and thus gives rise to all aberration.
Material reality (which is termed now 'objective') is actually SUBJECT to a higher, non-material order - but modern man does not recognize this. He believes it is truly objective - impersonal, unconnected, to be taken in itself (of the 'object'). But because this material reality is not SUBJECT to spiritual reality, it is meaningless. And if it is meaningless, then it is also not objective - the object starts as the only thing, and becomes irrelevant in the end.
This is why we can have both the belief in 'human gender' (and in the ability to change it) and advanced surgery techniques to attempt to bring that unreality about, to use one example.
The Truth is that reality is both objective and subjective, we simply have lost any idea of what those words mean because of our focus on 'objectivity'.
Material reality (which is termed now 'objective') is actually SUBJECT to a higher, non-material order - but modern man does not recognize this. He believes it is truly objective - impersonal, unconnected, to be taken in itself (of the 'object'). But because this material reality is not SUBJECT to spiritual reality, it is meaningless. And if it is meaningless, then it is also not objective - the object starts as the only thing, and becomes irrelevant in the end.
This is why we can have both the belief in 'human gender' (and in the ability to change it) and advanced surgery techniques to attempt to bring that unreality about, to use one example.
The Truth is that reality is both objective and subjective, we simply have lost any idea of what those words mean because of our focus on 'objectivity'.
ralfy
Robin
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WarMachine
Sparrow
The problem is we are studied by thousands of scientists each day which is their job to do so.
This is why through language, images and colour, they are able to augment the reality of people, supply information so they don't have to think, instant gratification so people don't have to be motivated and earn things and drip feed lifestyle "ideas" through the media outlets
All this makes humans the most domesticated species on earth. No questioning, compliant, easy to scare, overthinking, oversexed and effeminate. Ideas are infectious, and they understand that pathogentic ideas constantly fed means that humans become a "hive" and think in a "swarm"
Therefore, objective reality has no room to exist.
This is why through language, images and colour, they are able to augment the reality of people, supply information so they don't have to think, instant gratification so people don't have to be motivated and earn things and drip feed lifestyle "ideas" through the media outlets
All this makes humans the most domesticated species on earth. No questioning, compliant, easy to scare, overthinking, oversexed and effeminate. Ideas are infectious, and they understand that pathogentic ideas constantly fed means that humans become a "hive" and think in a "swarm"
Therefore, objective reality has no room to exist.
andy dufresne
Kingfisher
Don't forget the final trick: Operation Covid-19. Basically a boomer eugenics program.
Jacob Robinson
Robin
A generation ago, up until the late 1980's at least, reality was mainly what people experienced. Only some people watched the nightly news, and the only news on TV was on one of the three networks: 1/2 hour for national news, and 1/2 hour for local news. That was it. And/or they read the local newspaper, and/or the got a monthly or bi-monthly news magazine. Everyone knew that some of them were biased and had to be taken with a grain of salt, and some of them at least tried to give the appearance of being balanced.
CNN came along and had a 24 hour news channel, then added the Head Line News channel. The first time we had 24/7 electronic news. 1992 was a turning point, as it looked to be a sure thing that George H W Bush would be reelected (16 years of Republican Presidents!), then a mild recession hit. No serious Democrat was even running that year, other than a few nobodies who wanted to get their name out there by doing trial runs. The media became extraordinarily biased, and we ended up with the Clinton Crime Family after Perot split the vote. Clinton would not, I think, have been nominated had serious Democrats ran that year. That was when people clamored for alternate news sources and talk radio (i.e., Rush) became popular, and FoxNews came into being four years later. The point is, in 1992 the media we had took a sharp turn left.
Then the internet hit. I think that what we have now, is some strange merging of the reality shows (actually scripted, but supposedly with real people that viewers would resonate with) that hit in the early 2000's, with a now overtly partisan media, with the 24/7 internet, smart phones, and social media. People think that if they do not keep up with the news every hour or two, that they are not doing their civic duty or something like that. Politics has become the new religion. The news cycle, poured out 24/7 into portable propaganda receivers every one carries around all the time (for the bargain price of $100 a month!), put out by the oligarchs who control the media, is the new reality.
As an example, I remember when I lived in Kentucky a co-worker who scoffed at the idea that Trump could bring back coal mining jobs--all while he drove past a bill board every day that started advertising coal mining jobs for a local mine. That is a perfect example of total detachment of reality. Who is he going to believe, what his smart phone crams down his throat, or his lying eyes? He believed his smart phone.
People have said that when something is badly abused long enough, God takes it away. Expect smart phones and the internet to go away at some point. And good riddance.
CNN came along and had a 24 hour news channel, then added the Head Line News channel. The first time we had 24/7 electronic news. 1992 was a turning point, as it looked to be a sure thing that George H W Bush would be reelected (16 years of Republican Presidents!), then a mild recession hit. No serious Democrat was even running that year, other than a few nobodies who wanted to get their name out there by doing trial runs. The media became extraordinarily biased, and we ended up with the Clinton Crime Family after Perot split the vote. Clinton would not, I think, have been nominated had serious Democrats ran that year. That was when people clamored for alternate news sources and talk radio (i.e., Rush) became popular, and FoxNews came into being four years later. The point is, in 1992 the media we had took a sharp turn left.
Then the internet hit. I think that what we have now, is some strange merging of the reality shows (actually scripted, but supposedly with real people that viewers would resonate with) that hit in the early 2000's, with a now overtly partisan media, with the 24/7 internet, smart phones, and social media. People think that if they do not keep up with the news every hour or two, that they are not doing their civic duty or something like that. Politics has become the new religion. The news cycle, poured out 24/7 into portable propaganda receivers every one carries around all the time (for the bargain price of $100 a month!), put out by the oligarchs who control the media, is the new reality.
As an example, I remember when I lived in Kentucky a co-worker who scoffed at the idea that Trump could bring back coal mining jobs--all while he drove past a bill board every day that started advertising coal mining jobs for a local mine. That is a perfect example of total detachment of reality. Who is he going to believe, what his smart phone crams down his throat, or his lying eyes? He believed his smart phone.
People have said that when something is badly abused long enough, God takes it away. Expect smart phones and the internet to go away at some point. And good riddance.
Timothy Crow
Robin
Yes, some very, very bad things are on the way. My wife, who btw is the stereotypical blonde, knows this as well, she has told me that before the end of the year we are all going to face some serious danger. Right now they are "words" being spoken openly, take note, this is their heart speaking and it will lead to actions soon enough.
Timothy Crow
Robin
I have an idea about the circumcision thing. I believe it is an act of ownership over a slave nation. Just a thought but in view of occult teachings it makes a lot of sense.
With my amateurish interest in the history of ideas, I attribute this problem to three causal factors:
1. Cartesian rationalism and the split between mind and matter.
2. British empiricism - rendering sensory qualities as "secondary" and abstract objective quantities as "primary".
3. Kantianism - positing that the objective world can't be known "in itself".
In my opinion, this is the toxic brew of modernity. Plato and Aristotle had provided a spiritual continuum between the world of eternal "ideas" or principles to the manifest world of material forms. Cartesianism severed this connection by introducing a mind/matter dualism. This led to a form of disembodied "mind-consciousness" which became inimical to nature, and spawned the rigid "sola fide" mentality of Protestantism.
After this came the British empiricists (Locke, Hume, Berkeley) who flipped the switch and said that the world is empty mechanical space and knowledge only comes from the outside. Kant drove this further in emphasizing that our senses are "arbitrary" and we can therefore never really know anything about the world in "itself".
Materialism seems to be the final "remedy" to this dualistic strife between mind and matter, positing that only matter exists. Thus, man as a subject might not even exist at all, all the while the scientific "eye" seeks to gain an ever more "objective" view of reality.
Classic sermon! One of my favorites!!!
2+2=5, by Most Reverend Donald J. Sanborn
The Solution, by Rev. Anthony Cekada (RIP)
Viktor Zeegelaar
Robin
I think we've lost our connection with objective reality for at least 60 years, since all the freedom revolutions were rolled out at such a pace. Moreover, losing our connection with objective reality is losing our reality with God, for if we base our life on God and his will we have objective reality. However, when God is disbanded anything goes, as Dostojevski said... I do have to say that since the cojona hoax and just a couple years before that I really start to feel that 2+2=5 is becoming increasingly the standard in society as we rush towards a cliff of utter subjectiveness, nihilism and darkness. It's up to us to defend the 2+2=4, but I even doubt myself sometimes when I read stuff that is so inverted that is has like 3 or 4 layers of inversion within it do decypher before you can see the 2+2=4 in it.
Gazza
Sparrow
I was gonna hit the like button...........
It_is_my_time
Crow
Watchman72
Sparrow
The new paradigm:
Objective reality is an oppressive concept.
Reality is subjective, relative and fluid.
Welcome to clown world.
Objective reality is an oppressive concept.
Reality is subjective, relative and fluid.
Welcome to clown world.
MilvianForce
Sparrow
I just started watching Black Mirror and holy crap, everything there is a loss with objective reality. People have developed the need for instant gratification, quick results and have succumbed to their vices and the deadly sins. It's going to be a very sad world in the coming future, that's all I can say.
Many good points in this thread. I use to go out of my way to provide objective, logical non bias information to individuals who were confused but not any more. They just throw it in your face if it does not run parallel to what the mass media is stating and begin to ostracize you for it. It's best to keep your thoughts to yourself and let people come to you if they need help, especially paradigm shifts in thought proceses and percpetion of the world around them.
Many good points in this thread. I use to go out of my way to provide objective, logical non bias information to individuals who were confused but not any more. They just throw it in your face if it does not run parallel to what the mass media is stating and begin to ostracize you for it. It's best to keep your thoughts to yourself and let people come to you if they need help, especially paradigm shifts in thought proceses and percpetion of the world around them.
