Society Is Losing It's Connection With Objective Reality


Other Christian
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Good topic. I do wonder from time to time when we're going to start seeing bridges collapsing because some woke engineer said "1+1 = 2 is patriarchal. Let's change it up!".
Been there and done that... "Muh female empowered bridge"


I found this comment to an article about the Chauvin verdict, on a Nrx blog. Though not about objective reality per se it talks about how people arrive at a set of facts that they are going to believe. And the effect the COVID surprisingly has had.

"I spent many, many hours this past year trying to read up on, and sort out, the claims and arguments back and forth over this stuff. Some of it was in response to an impassioned email by a local white mother raising 2 adopted black children (with white children), impassioned in calling for some sort of intelligent stance or response among her (mostly) conservative peers around her to the issues being talked about by BLM. Some of it relating to other incidents with other people I know. Ultimately I have come to feel that the semantic divide that has been created by the propaganda machines have made it so that there is, for practical purposes, no plausible hope that discussion will move people (well, adults) toward agreement on these issues. I hope that I am actually wrong about that, but I have seen no evidence yet that I am wrong. Worse yet, it is now becoming clear that the COVID crisis has caused a further movement of divide, in two ways: people who might have been, before, more or less "on the fence" about some racial (or other types of) discrimination have dropped off the fence, and people who had a particular position off the fence but were open to new evidence and reasoned argument have hardened in their position and have stopped looking for new evidence or argument - even though COVID itself (and government responses to it) had fairly limited intersection with the lines of debate over race, sexual orientation, and gender identity discrimination questions. There seems to have been a psychological cusp point in the COVID crisis that, without any new evidence or argument providing a reasoned basis, caused people to RESOLVE on racial and other matters in a more determinate way. Without there being a pathway by which these differences can be worked out using words, the probable pathway left is, unfortunately, that of violence. Because violence is, specifically, a known and desired tool of marxists, I cannot help but suspect that was the objective all along of these propaganda machines, to MAKE discussion useless.
Posted by Tony | April 18, 2021 6:41 PM"

Viktor Zeegelaar

Orthodox Inquirer
The new paradigm:
Objective reality is an oppressive concept.
Reality is subjective, relative and fluid.
Welcome to clown world.
Funny that these people will say there is no objective reality, which is an objective statement by itself. There are so many layers of dissonance in this reasoning. How can they talk about things like morality and fairness at all, about being a good person. They have no foundation to stand on. They stand on pride and hence they will fall, let us hope God gives them the insight to repent and acknowledge they were wrong, but often these people are so invested in the lie that it's near impossible to see the truth, but with God everything is possible.


I think we've lost our connection with objective reality for at least 60 years, since all the freedom revolutions were rolled out at such a pace. Moreover, losing our connection with objective reality is losing our reality with God, for if we base our life on God and his will we have objective reality. However, when God is disbanded anything goes, as Dostojevski said... I do have to say that since the cojona hoax and just a couple years before that I really start to feel that 2+2=5 is becoming increasingly the standard in society as we rush towards a cliff of utter subjectiveness, nihilism and darkness. It's up to us to defend the 2+2=4, but I even doubt myself sometimes when I read stuff that is so inverted that is has like 3 or 4 layers of inversion within it do decypher before you can see the 2+2=4 in it.

This is a good point. To take it further, God is objective reality and by living in accordance with His will you are living in objective reality, and by living out of accordance with His will you are living outside of objective reality.

God is what keeps the universe functioning. Every object in the universe is in some kind of flux at some level, and that can only happen if something outside of that object acts upon it--drill down far enough from bodies, to muscles, to cells, to molecules, to atoms, etc. and ultimately you have to stop somewhere with something that is at the root of it all. That something is God. Take away God and everything ceases to function.

This is how God's moral law works in society. A good example would be the widespread use of contraception, abortion, and pornography. As those things have become more common the birth rate has fallen, and obviously if you don't have babies then society gradually falls apart and ceases to function.


Then the internet hit. I think that what we have now, is some strange merging of the reality shows (actually scripted, but supposedly with real people that viewers would resonate with) that hit in the early 2000's, with a now overtly partisan media, with the 24/7 internet, smart phones, and social media. People think that if they do not keep up with the news every hour or two, that they are not doing their civic duty or something like that. Politics has become the new religion. The news cycle, poured out 24/7 into portable propaganda receivers every one carries around all the time (for the bargain price of $100 a month!), put out by the oligarchs who control the media, is the new reality.

This is something I think a lot of people don't realize.

Any society must have something that binds it's citizens together in some way, because after all a society is--at it's widest conception--a group of people bound together in some kind of overarching reality composed of symbols, ideas, beliefs, traditions, behaviors, etc. that all transcend the individual as well as the specific moment in time.

For all of human history up until fairly recently that overarching reality was religion, and specifically for the West that was Christianity. That, however, is a distinct limit on the power of the secular/oligarchic state because when the entire society is bound together by God then even the rulers must bow down to something. The secular oligarchs don't have true power unless they control the very conception of reality, and to do that reality must be malleable; thus you have the replacement of religion with politics.

The politician is at the head of the political reality and can (and must) change the political situation as necessary to stay in power. Since politics doesn't have the same eternal transcendent authority as God, it must be drilled into the populace 24/7 via an all-encompassing media system that doesn't just include--or even primarily include--the news, but also (especially) pop culture.

I'm starting to think that pop culture is the most important method of secular/oligarchic control of reality rather than the news. Its much more addictive and pervasive than the news, and political messages can be more subtly inserted.

The most revolutionary and dissident act one can commit nowadays is to disengage from pop culture.
What you are observing today is not new.

Society has never been in touch with objective reality. Humans aren't designed to be in touch with objective reality. Throughout the millennia, humans have engaged with reality through the lens of their respective religions and cultures. Give me a New Guinean pygmy and a Roman Catholic. They will not agree on what constitutes objective reality.

That all said, I am personally an objectivist who believes in absolute truth—I just believe that that truth isn't totally accessible to humans in our natural state. Only gross approximations (like the approximation of the pygmy or that of the Roman Catholic) are within our grasp.

Creatures of language cannot name the Tao, just as we cannot grok Ultimate Mind, just as we cannot know the innermost thoughts of God which have not been revealed to us.

Na skrzydłach orlich

Take sexuality. If you divorce sex from reproduction and instead tie it solely to pleasure, you get promiscuity without reproduction. 1+1 now equals 3. If sex is solely for pleasure, why limit it to just a man with a woman? If 1+1 can be 3, there isn’t any reason it can’t be 4. And if a man can fulfill the role of a woman in sex, why then can’t he just become a woman for all intents and purposes? The same goes for abortion, the value of life, etc.
This is very well put and shows how evil increases generationally. Promiscuity is seen as "sexual liberation" without the understanding that it's just one step along the way to hell, with subsequent stages being things like transgenderism. If we follow the stages of degeneration backwards in time, we always come to the same starting point: disbelief in God. This is why I have the sense that trying to address things like transgenderism head-on is such a fruitless endeavour, because the foundation is missing. There is moreover a lack of understanding of how we ourselves are responsible for the madness we see. Fornicators of generation A create the homosexuals of generation B, and the homosexuals of gen. B create the transsexuals of gen. C, and the transsexuals of gen. C create what...? I except we shall soon find out.

Dan Handler

This is very well put and shows how evil increases generationally. Promiscuity is seen as "sexual liberation" without the understanding that it's just one step along the way to hell, with subsequent stages being things like transgenderism. If we follow the stages of degeneration backwards in time, we always come to the same starting point: disbelief in God. This is why I have the sense that trying to address things like transgenderism head-on is such a fruitless endeavour, because the foundation is missing. There is moreover a lack of understanding of how we ourselves are responsible for the madness we see. Fornicators of generation A create the homosexuals of generation B, and the homosexuals of gen. B create the transsexuals of gen. C, and the transsexuals of gen. C create what...? I except we shall soon find out.

The transsexuals of generation C create the pedophiles of generation D, the pedophiles of generation D then create the zoophiles of generation E, which in turn creates the urine and fecal fetishists of generation F, who in turn create the garbage and sewer fetishists of generation G, who in turn create the biological, chemical, and radioactive waste fetishists who then turn into mutants, and overrun the Earth, contaminating all living organisms they come in contact with and causing a mass extinction event.


Well considering some Feminist journals accepted Mein Kampf with mentions of race replaced with gender, I'm guessing you may have a point. That said, I'm pretty sure its just that the patients are now running the Asylum. Plenty of sane people, except their not the ones in charge. Its a mad world out their.



Other Christian
I was totally flummoxed by this.

An ex UK Royal Marine (which is a legit infantry unit) has made a big song and dance about 'getting out' a bunch of cats and dogs who had previously had some kind of 'emotional connection' with ISAF forces out from Kabul before the Taliban 'victimises' them.

I have no words.

Comments are laughable. All celebrating this guy as Dogs and Cats are better than people. All upset at the UK government for not jumping on board and prioritising dogs and cats getting a cordon sanitaire through crowds of 1000s.
Every time he has a problem he tweets at the UK Secretary of Defence demanding help.

Neither his pets nor his staff were on any list as being okay to exit but he wants to be treated like a princess and lots of Extinction Rebellion celebrities are demanding that the UK govt "hurry up and open the gates!" < they don't seem to get that there are 1000s of people and Taliban stuck in between the pets and the gates.
The politicians keep having to deal with press on this.
The beleaguered UK forces have to generate an ATC for the plane he hired to land instead of the much bigger C17 that would be in that slot.
Bombs are going off..

This attention seeking muppet wants everything to revolve around a bunch of cats and dogs.
All the UK liberals are all over this claiming that the animals need to be saved.

Seems a little out of touch..


Leftism likes to state that your place of birth is random, and that any personal defects or advantages are a 'genetic lottery'. But how can your biological nature be "accidental" when it is literally determined by your parents and ancestral lineage? This is because the leftist idea of "self" is something that is completely separate from your body and biological context. Thus, what constitutes "you" is a 'ghost in the machine' type of free floating mind. So anything that happens to "you" by natural causes is either "lucky" or "unlucky".

By this form of disembodied consciousness the "I" starts to lose connection with objective reality, starting to define it in its own terms. A wholistic spiritual view would be that your body, mind and spirit is part of the same continuum and represent different levels of being. Thus, you cannot view yourself separately from the whole. Only your spirit is free, and incarnates in the corporeal circumstances that reflect its spiritual state and potential to grow. Everyone on earth are thus on different paths of spiritual development, rather than 'randomly inserted' people.

However, from the egalitarian materialist POV, this is controversial. Hence leftists have developed their own form of spirituality which seeks to eradicate differences in order to return to sameness or formless chaos. Since we are part of 'one soul', our body is "relative" and we can define ourself as we wish. The Christian view is that our nature is given on earth, while we are free only in Heaven.

Viktor Zeegelaar

Orthodox Inquirer
I've been thinking about the urge from the global regime to force people not to see patterns anymore. We base our worldview on generalisations. If we stroke the lion 10 times 9 times we'll be eaten. Hence we don't stroke the lion. The regime focuses all attention on the exceptions BUT THE LION WON'T ALWAYS ATTACK YOU! Discrimination of lions! Lioncism! The whole discrimination and racism stuff, among other things such as the men vs women agenda, are designed to keep us away from making good, sensible, logical decisions. Divide and conquering of the peons once again.


Is it possible that psychedelic substances can be useful in treating alcoholism, depression, etc? Maybe. Lately I'm becoming more open to the idea, having previously been highly skeptical, because substances such as psychedelic mushrooms seem to be less addictive and less deadly than industrially produced psychiatric medication; of course many medicines from aspirin to dextromethorphan to opiates have positive and negative aspects, but I don't think the following bodes well. The potential problem that I think of is that they can be powerful tools for brainwashing and psychological control. The fact that this is occurring at Davos is to me just another possible avenue of NWO mass manipulation. Its like something out of a cheesy paperback, but real:

Forget Burning Man — Psychedelic Shamans Now Heading to Davos​

The World Economic Forum, a gathering of the global elite now synonymous with the quaint Swiss town of Davos where it’s held, isn’t the usual place you'd expect to find a shaman, do breathwork or get rooted in your body.

No, I fully expect people who commune with demons to be present at Davos.

“It’s a really big shift for world leaders to inquire about how they might be able to use psychedelics,” said Marik Hazan, chief executive officer of Energia Holdings Inc., the New York-based business hosting the event. Energia is a holding company for Tabula Rasa Ventures, an accelerator for psychedelic companies, and Hazan is a managing partner at Tabula Rasa. The program aims to spark conversations about rolling out psychedelics responsibly for medical use and encourage countries and companies to include such treatments in health coverage.

Of course you have to wonder exactly why world leaders would inquire as to how they could use psychedelics. There's no way that "Tabula Rasa" is a coincidence--it is the old idea that, in general, the human mind is a "blank slate" upon which thoughts, perceptions, the manner of interpreting reality, and so on can impressed. What other use for psychedelics could a company called "Tabula Rasa Ventures" have other than brainwashing? They're not even trying to hide it behind something innocuous like "Healing Your Mind Ventures." After the latest attempt at medical tyranny via covid vaccines it should be 100% obvious where this is heading.

Other participants include the Chopra Foundation, a nonprofit started by alternative medicine advocate Deepak Chopra....Other topics on tap include ethical debates, such as how to guard against abusive practices in an industry where people are incredibly vulnerable while under the influence. What about a Coke bottle in a clinic?” Hazan asked. He said the idea of “putting products in front of people undergoing an experience” needs to be discussed.

Deepak Chopra is a glaring red flag. The rest is just a smokescreen. They're putting out the idea of guarding against advertising to misdirect you away from the what is likely the real goal.

“It’s important to educate politicians about what heals,” Bollini told me of her mission. “This is a big moment for psychedelics. After working so long now, we are ready to reveal a solution that we know works, because we’ve seen it in the underground over and over again.”

Their idea of "healing" is not going to be curing depression or alcoholism, it will be "healing" you from Christianity and from resistance to demonism.

I've written in this thread that society is losing it's connection with objective reality. Now its coming into focus--this disconnect from objective reality is completely and totally intentional. Think about it--it is possibly the most effective way of controlling humanity. If people know that they are being controlled then there will always be resistance to the Satanic intentions of the technocratic world elite, but if they can fundamentally alter the very perception and knowledge of reality then there will be no resistance because people will never realize that they are being controlled. If you can control the perception and knowledge of reality then you will have unlimited power.

This is why true religion is such a danger to them and why they try to suppress it--it IS objective reality and it IS truth, and furthermore it is completely outside their control. These people are Satanists--there's no other way to put it--and they are hell-bent on controlling humanity. Communism failed, there is growing resistance to cultural Marxism, and this--psychological control via drug-induced brainwashing--is the next attempt.


The modern western society is all fake and made up. What specifically is fake and made up? Everything! They promote the following things: Junk food/GMO instead of organic food. Big Pharma instead of traditional/alternative medicine. Dogs/cats instead of kids. Polluted and congested crime infested urban megapolises instead of rural areas. LGBTASS and/or porn instead of normal marriage relationships. Vaccines instead of natural immunity. The list goes on and on. Obviously there are people living in the west who are selecting the latter choice instead of the former. But here I mean the mentality of a politically correct, brainwashed 'model citizen'.



I used to be atheist as I’m sure others here have been, and personal weaknesses led me back to God. In my heart I know Him to be true, but there is also the reality that God can be proven to be true through reason. I’m reading right now The Last Supersition by Edward Feser (he has some great videos on YouTube which I definitely recommend you watch), and part of that book involves exploring Aristotle and St. Thomas Aquinas and their demonstrations through reason of the existence of God. Going over those you can see that it is blindingly obvious that God is real, and that denial of His existence is another clear disconnect from reality. At this point I’m not well-versed enough in their arguments to present a thorough description of them, but one of the most striking arguments for me is the existence of final causality or “goal-directedness” in nature apart from the human mind. Things, both animate and inanimate, have an obvious purpose to their existence.

“The fifth way is taken from the governance of the world. We see that things which lack intelligence, such as natural bodies, act for an end, and this is evident from their acting always, or nearly always, in the same way, so as to obtain the best result. Hence it is plain that not fortuitously, but designedly, do they achieve their end. Now whatever lacks intelligence cannot move towards an end, unless it be directed by some being endowed with knowledge and intelligence; as the arrow is shot to its mark by the archer. Therefore some intelligent being exists by whom all natural things are directed to their end; and this being we call God."

Acorns are “directed” towards becoming trees, the genitals are “directed” towards reproduction, the sun is “directed” towards giving us light and heat, and so forth. There is rationality and order in the world, you can’t deny this. Without that order and rationality nothing would exist as it governs all of material reality right down to the most basic level. Order and rationality cannot come out of chaos and irrationality, and so must be imposed upon the world by a rational and orderly actor. The only actor who has the power to impose those things upon everything in existence must of course be God. To believe anything else is a denial of basic reality.
Great post. Ordered actions are more and more rare these days. Disorder has been present since the fall of man, but look how accelerated it is today. This is all the work of the devil. As has been quoted: The greatest trick the devil ever played was convincing man he doesn't exist.

The disorder is such clear evidence the devil exists. The way he tries to get back at God is to attack God's children. He's been very effective, but luckily we know how the story ends. Isn't it amazing that we have God behind us, provided we stay in a state of grace? I struggle so badly being around people who aren't trying to be in God's favor. In the end, it's so black and white, but all they see is gray. We must pray for them.


I didn't know where else to put this post, so here it goes! :)

I think that it is clear to everyone here that our time is the most primitive and vile time, the dark night of human civilization as a whole. In the future historians will look back at this time and say that it was a time of social, cultural, and spiritual barbarians.

It is interesting that in ancient India, some priests or philosophers made an eerily accurate prophecy of our current time, which they call the age of Kali. The fact is that all prophecies are based upon observations of certain historical trends and processes, which are too large in scale for the average person to even notice. These historical processes have certain characteristics and tendencies associated with them, based on which we can make conclusions on what would the world look like if it were under the influences of such historical processes and tendencies.

It seems that the Age of Kali, as it is described in this ancient prophecy, describes the current timeline very much. So it can be said that we live in the Age of Kali! Of course, these are the general trends, which affect inert objects such as normies in society. More strong willed people will be able to resist these general trends. And there are always conservative strongholds and exceptions to the rule. But this prophecy just tells us the general direction in which the wind is blowing.

I actually don't remember from which website I got the original text. Although this is neither a Christian nor an Orthodox writing, I think that there has always been a lot of wisdom in the Indian tradition, and that we can still gain some useful information out of it.

"In the age of Kali, people are spontaneously attracted to sinful activities and are devoid of the regulations of the scriptures. The so-called "twice-born" are degraded by their low-class activities and those who are born in low-class families are alway s hostile to brahminical culture. The twice-born are low-class by quality and do business by selling mantras. These so-called learned men are absorbed in their intestines and genitals and their only identification is the thread they wear. Indulging in overeating, absorbed in bodily consciousness, lazy, intellectually dull and greedy for others properties, they are consistently against God-consciousness. Due to being overly inclined towards false paths without essence, they manufacture their own processes for self-realization. Neglecting their actual duties they are expert in blaspheming You (the Supreme Personality of Godhead) and the saintly persons; hence again Mother Earth is in tears due to this burden. Therefore, Oh Lord of the Universe, destroyer of the miseries of the destitute, please mercifully do what is befitting for the protection of the Earth and the living entities."

"The very day and moment the Personality of Godhead, Lord Sri Krsna, left this earth, the personality of Kali, who promotes all kinds of irreligious activities, came into this world."

"O learned one, in this iron age of Kali men have but short lives. They are quarrelsome, lazy, misguided, unlucky and, above all, always disturbed."

Foreseeing the incompetencies of the people in this age of Kali or the iron age of quarrel, great sages and saintly people throughout the ages have sort to benefit the general mass of people by revealing to them the knowledge contained in the scriptures, whereby they may attain relief from the inflictions of this most degraded and dangerous of all ages.

Elaborate description of the anamolies of Kali-yuga and the plight of the living entities is given in the Srimad Bhagavatam. Therein it is described how as the sun rose and after taking his morning ablutions in the waters of the Sarasvati, Vyasadeva sat alone to concentrate.

"The great sage Vyasadeva saw anomalies in the duties of the millennium. This happens on the earth in different ages, due to unseen forces in the course of time. The great sage, who was fully equipped in knowledge, could see, through his transcendental vision, the deterioration of everything material, due to the influence of the age. He could also see that the faithless people in general would be reduced in duration of life and would be impatient due to lack of goodness. Thus he contemplated for the welfare of men in all statuses and orders of life."

In the purport to these verses Srila Prabhupada describes Kali-yuga in this way: "The unmanifested forces of time are so powerful that they can reduce all matter to oblivion in due course. In Kali-yuga the last millennium of a round of four millenniums , the power of all material objects deteriorates by the influence of time. In this age the material body of the people in general is reduced, and so is the memory. The action of matter has also not so much incentive. The land does not produce food grains in the same proportions as it did in other ages. The cow does not give as much milk as it did formerly. The production of vegetables and fruits is less than before. As such, all living beings, both men and animals, do not have sumptuous, nourishing food. Due to want of so many necessities of life, naturally the duration of life is reduced, the memory is short, intelligence is meager, mutual dealings are full of hypocrisy and so on.

The great sage Vyasadeva could see this by his transcendental vision. As an astrologer can see the future fate of a man, or an astronomer can foretell the solar and lunar eclipses, those liberated souls who can see through the scriptures can foretell the future of mankind. They can see this due to their sharp vision of spiritual attainment.

And all such transcendentalists, who are naturally devotees of the Lord, are always eager to render welfare service to the people in general. They are the real friends of the people in general, not the so-called public leaders who are unable to see what is going to happen five minutes ahead. In this age the people in general as well as their so-called leaders are all unlucky fellows, faithless in spiritual knowledge and influenced by the age of Kali. They are always disturbed by various diseases. For example, in the present age there are so many TB patients and TB hospitals, but formerly this was not so because the time was not so unfavorable."

Elsewhere in the Srimad Bhagavatam Srila Prabhupada further reveals the degradation of human society. "In the Kali-yuga the population is just a royal edition of the animals. They have nothing to do with spiritual knowledge or godly religious life. They are so blind that they cannot see anything beyond the jurisdiction of the subtle mind, intelligence or ego, but they are very much proud of their advancement in knowledge, science and material prosperity. They can risk their lives to become a dog or hog just after leaving the present body, for they have completely lost sight of the ultimate aim of life."

The people of the world in this age of Kali are always full of anxieties. Everyone is diseased with some kind of ailment. From the very faces of the people of this age, one can find out the index of the mind. Everyone feels the absence of his relative who is away from home. The particular symptom of the age of Kali is that no family is now blessed to live together. To earn a livelihood, the father lives at a place far away from the son, or the wife lives far away from the husband and so on. There are sufferings from internal diseases, separation from those near and dear, and anxieties for maintaining the status quo. These are but some important factors which make the people of this age always unhappy.

With the progress of the age of Kali, four things particularly, namely the duration of life, mercy, the power of recollection, and moral or religious principles will gradually diminish. Since Dharma, or the principles of religion, would be lost in the proportion of three out of four, the symbolic bull is standing on one leg only. When three fourths of the whole world become irreligious, the situation is converted into hell for the animals. In the age of Kali, godless civilizations will create so many so -called religious societies in which the Personality of Godhead will be directly or indirectly defied. And thus faithless societies of men will make the world uninhabitable for the saner section of people.

Beef is forbidden in the scriptures, and the bull and cows are offered special protection by the followers of the Vedas. But in this age of Kali, people will exploit the body of the bull and the cow as they like, and thus they will invite sufferings of various types.

The people of this age will not perform any sacrifice. The mleccha population will care very little for performances of sacrifices, although performance of sacrifice is essential for persons who are materially engaged in sense enjoyment. The mlecchas, however, make plans to install slaughterhouses for killing bulls and cows along with other animals, thinking that they will prosper by increasing the number of factories and live on animal food without caring for performance of sacrifices and production of grains.

In this age of Kali, the women and the children, along with the brahmanas and cows, will be grossly neglected and left unprotected. In this age illicit connection with women will render many women and children uncared for. Circumstantially, the women will try to become independent of the protection of men, and marriage will be performed as a matter of formal agreement between man and woman. In most cases the children will not be taken care of properly. The brahmanas are traditionally intelligent men, and thus they will be able to pick up modern education to the topmost rank, but as far as moral and religious principles are concerned, they shall be the most fallen. Education and bad character go ill together, but such things will run parallel. The administrative heads as a class will condemn the tenets of Vedic wisdom and will prefer to conduct a so-called secular state, and the so-called educated brahmanas will be purchased by such unscrupulous administrators. Even a philosopher and writer of many books on religious principles may also accept an exalted post in a government which denies all the moral codes of the sastras. The brahmanas are specifically restricted from accepting such service. But in this age they will not only accept service, but they will do so even if it is of the meanest quality. These are some of the symptoms of the Kali age which are harmful to the general welfare of human society.

In this age, people are indulging in the necessities of life, eating, sleeping, defending and mating, without following the rules and regulations, and this deterioration of social and moral rules is certainly lamentable because of the harmful effects of such beastly behavior. In this age, the fathers and the guardians are not happy with the behavior of their wards. They should know that so many innocent children are victims of bad association awarded by the influence of this age of Kali. In this age of Kali the poor innocent students are daily victims of cinemas which attract men only for sex indulgence.

Nowadays, men without proper training by culture and tradition are promoted to exalted posts by the votes of the people who are themselves fallen in the rules and regulations of life. How can such people select a proper man when they are themselves fallen in the standard of life? Therefore, by the influence of the age of Kali, everywhere, politically, socially or religiously, everything is topsy-turvy, and therefore for the sane man it is most regrettable.

In the twelfth canto of the Srimad Bhagavatam Srila Sukadeva Goswami relates how after the thorough degredation of the brahminical and administrative classes these and other symptoms of Kali-yuga increase to an intolerable level.

"Sukadeva Goswami said: Then, O King, religion, truthfulness, cleanliness, tolerance, mercy, duration of life, physical strength and memory will all diminish day by day because of the powerful influence of the age of Kali. In Kali-yuga, wealth alone will be considered a sign of a mans good birth, proper behavior and fine qualities. And law and justice will be applied only on the basis of ones power. Men and women will live together merely because of superficial attraction, and success in business will depend on deceit. Womanliness and manliness will be judged according to ones expertise in sex, and a man will be known as a brahmana just by his wearing a thread. A persons spiritual position will be ascertained merely according to external symbols, and on the same basis people will change from one spiritual order to the next. A persons propriety will be seriously questioned if he does not earn a good living. And one who is very clever at juggling words will be considered a learned scholar. A person will be judged unholy if he does not have money, and hypocrisy will be accepted as virtue. Marriage will be arranged simply by verbal agreement, and a person will think he is fit to appear in public if he has merely taken a bath. A sacred place will be taken to consist of no more than a reservoir of water located at a distance, and beauty will be thought to depend on ones hairstyle. Filling the belly will become the goal of life, and one who is audacious will be accepted as truthful. He who can maintain a family will be regarded as an expert man, and the principles of religion will be observed only for the sake of reputation.

As the earth becomes crowded with a corrupt population, whoever among any of the social classes shows himself to be the strongest will gain political power. Losing their wives and properties to such avaricious and merciless rulers, who will behave no better than ordinary thieves, the citizens will flee to the mountains and forests. Harassed by famine and excessive taxes, people will resort to eating leaves, roots, flesh, wild honey, fruits, flowers and seeds. Struck by drought, they will become completely ruined. The citizens will suffer greatly from cold, wind, heat, rain and snow. They will be further tormented by quarrels, hunger, thirst, disease and severe anxiety. The maximum duration of life for human beings in Kali-yuga will become fifty years.

By the time the age of Kali ends, the bodies of all creatures will be greatly reduced in size, and the religious principles of followers of varnasrama will be ruined. The path of the Vedas will be completely forgotten in human society, and so-called religion will be mostly atheistic. The kings will mostly be thieves, the occupations of men will be stealing, lying and needless violence, and all the social classes will be reduced to the lowest level of sudras. Cows will be like goats, spiritual hermitages will be no different from mundane houses, and family ties will extend no further than the immediate bonds of marriage. Most plants and herbs will be tiny, and all trees will appear like dwarf sami trees. Clouds will be full of lightning, homes will be devoid of piety, and all human beings will have become like asses. At that time, the Supreme Personality of Godhead will appear on the earth. Acting with the power of pure spiritual goodness, He will rescue eternal religion.

"In the age of Kali only one fourth of the religious principles remains. That last remnant will continuously be decreased by the ever-increasing principles of irreligion and will finally be destroyed. In the age of Kali people tend to be greedy, ill-behaved and merciless, and they fight one another without good reason. Unfortunate and obsessed with material desires, the people of Kali-yuga are almost all sudras and barbarians. When there is a predominance of cheating, lying, sloth, sleepiness, violence, depression, lamentation, bewilderment, fear and poverty, that age is Kali, the age of the mode of ignorance. Because of the bad qualities of the age of Kali, human beings will become shortsighted, unfortunate, gluttonous, lustful and poverty-stricken. The women, becoming unchaste, will freely wander from one man to the next. Cities will be dominated by thieves, the Vedas will be contaminated by speculative interpretations of atheists, political leaders will virtually consume the citizens, and the so-called priests and intellectuals will be devotees of their bellies and genitals. The brahmacaris will fail to execute their vows and become generally unclean, the householders will become beggars, the varnaprasthas will live in the villages, and the sannyasis will become greedy for wealth.

Women become much smaller in size, and they will eat too much, have more children than they can properly take care of, and lose all shyness. They will speak harshly and will exhibit qualities of thievery, deceit and unrestrained audacity.

Businessmen will engage in petty commerce and earn their money by cheating. Even when there is no emergency, people will consider any degraded occupation quite acceptable. Servants will abandon a master who has lost his wealth, even if that master is a saintly person of exemplary character. Masters will abandon an incapacitated servant, even if that servant has been in the family for generations. Cows will be abandoned or killed when they stop giving milk.

In Kali-yuga men will be wretched and controlled by women. They will reject their fathers, brothers, other relatives and friends and will instead associate with the sisters and brothers of their wives. Thus their conception of friendship will be based exclusively on sexual ties. Uncultured men will accept charity on behalf of the Lord and will earn their livelihood by making a show of austerity and wearing a mendicants dress. Those who know nothing about religion will mount a high seat and presume to speak on religious principles.

In the age of Kali, peoples minds will always be agitated. They will become emaciated by famine and taxation, my dear King, and will always be disturbed by fear of drought. They will lack adequate clothing, food and drink, will be unable to properly rest, have sex or bathe themselves, and will have no ornaments to decorate their bodies. In fact, the people of Kali-yuga will gradually come to appear like ghostly, haunted creatures.

In Kali-yuga men will develop hatred for each other even over a few coins. Giving up friendly relations, they will be ready to lose their own lives and kill even their own relatives. Men will no longer protect their elderly parents, their children or the ir respectable wives. Thoroughly degraded, they will care only to satisfy their own bellies and genitals.

O King, in the age of Kali peoples intelligence will be diverted by atheism, and they will almost never offer sacrifice to the Supreme Personality of Godhead, who is the supreme spiritual master of the universe. Although the great personalities who control the three worlds all bow down to the lotus feet of the Supreme Lord, the petty and miserable human beings of this age will not do so.

Terrified, about to die, a man collapses on his bed. Although his voice is faltering and he is hardly conscious of what he is saying, if he utters the holy name of the Supreme Lord he can be freed from the reaction of his fruitive work and achieve the supreme destination. But still people in the age of Kali will not worship the Supreme Lord."