Spiritual dimensions of the war and signs of God's hand

Stoyan

Pelican
Orthodox
The Molfar Mihailo Nechai, a soothsayer from Western Ukraine, made a prophecy in 2007 that his country will fall apart and be divided by the neighboring countries.



Translation:

The battle goes like this: the enemies made it so that these wars were in order to destroy the people, and in order that one people would rule the world, but this will not be possible, because where they fight in order for that to happen the Will of God will not allow that.
Man plots, but God strikes him down.

So from your words our perspective is not bright?


No, no. In our civilization with every step we are going down. Our gene pool is dying out.
A half or a third part of the Zakarpatian Ukraine will be given to the Magyars and Czechs; Galicia will be under Poland; Southern and Central Ukraine will be under Russia; Bucovina will be under Romania; as such governance has already been in the past.

You think that Ukraine will break apart?


Yes of course, it won't even be present on the map any more.
But it is temporary phenomenon. Some time will pass and again will be built.
She already has been built but broke apart into two camps. One people became enemies with each other and this was caused by a third party.

Was it profitable for it to be like that?


Of course! Our Ukraine is so rich black soil, gold, silver, uranium and other useful resources, gas, oil, we have everything, but only an owner is needed.

There will be horrible cataclysms from God and WW3 will explode.

Will there be people left over from this?


A third part, two thirds fall down. A third of the population will remain on the planet.

But this third will be more smarter and more spiritual?


Necessarily!
Nothing teaches man as calamity does.
In calamity you will do that, what you would not have done on your own will. And calamity will force you to do that.
Like in the army die, but accomplish the mission. They won't ask you, if you died in accomplishing your military duties. But if you won't accomplish, they will ask you.
Like so is calamity.
Calamity is a very interesting academy for the life of a person. Who had not been in a calamity, does not know the price of freedom. So that you would know calamity is a science. It teaches us how to value freedom, how to value the people, how to value our actions, only calamity, a good fortune doesn't teach us that. Good fortune wants the calamity, but the calamity wants good fortune.
These forces will be forever, as long as humanity will be on the Earth.
 

Stoyan

Pelican
Orthodox
This is horrible. It's like Ukraine has been turned into a giant Satanic cult.
It is my theory that certain symbols have esoteric meanings. It is weird that many of these neo-Nazi battalions use occult symbols. Especially the trident, which has been associated as a symbol of power, but also of chaos and destruction by various esoteric traditions.


Ukrainian documentary about trident as an occult symbol.

 

Liviu

Robin
Orthodox
Spiritual father Elpidios Vaianakis,originary from Greece, having a a Christian-orthodox mission in Africa, who has the gift of forseeing said ten years ago or more that events which currently are unfolding should have started happening in 2012.He made an appeal for a chain of prayer in Greece which eventually involved thousands of Christians. Children at his mission in Africa told him they had dreams with angels telling them that God listened to the prayers and the events, by mercy of God,are delayed. From the events that father Elpidios, ten years ago said, will happen

1.war between Russia and Ukraine

2.war started between Greece and Turkey(also prophetised by Saint Paisios the Athonite, other spiritual contemporary elders and spiritual fathers from the past)

3.intervention of Russia for helping Greece. Pretext: to protect The Russian-Greek gas pipeline according the contact. Distruction of Turkey by Russia (very likely potential nuclear bombing of Turkey). After Saint Paisios the Athonite that will happen in only one week.

4.Russian invasion of Near East from or bypassing defeated Turkey,linking with Russian troops from Siria.Jerusalem occupied by Russians.

5. West summons Russia to get out from Israel with a term of six months.

6.Russia doesn`t comply. World War three is initiated.

7.war between Russians and Americans in the Black Sea. Americans will be overwhelmed there

8.big victories of Russians at first involving concealed strategies of deploying troops fast and cooperation with Serbia in the Balkans.Some good counter-offensive from Europeans led by Germans but not enough in order to turn the tide of the war.

9.Americans propose to China and Japan the Asian part of Russia (maybe to South Corea also).The Asians accept the deal.

10.Russia can`t stand to all powers and loses the war, being reduced to its European side.

America ends victorious but doesn`t have enough hands to applaud the victory, having only 10% of the initial population. (because of some natural calamities besides the war, I think)

A new world emerges.

So, by now, we are at point 1.
 
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Samseau

Eagle
Orthodox
Gold Member
Thanks for typing that up, Liviu, but point's 2 and 3 need some clarification...



2.war started between Greece and Turkey(also prophetised by Saint Paisios the Athonite, other spiritual contemporary elders and spiritual fathers from the past)

3.intervention of Russia for helping Greece. Pretext: to protect The Russian-Greek gas pipeline according the contact. Distruction of Turkey by Russia (very likely potential nuclear bombing of Turkey). After Saint Paisios the Athonite that will happen in only one week.

How can war occur between Turkey (NATO member) versus Russia without triggering a war between Russia/USA and WW3?

The implication here seems to be that Turkey will be blamed for the war with Greece, resulting in Turkey getting kicked out of NATO.

4.Russian invasion of Near East from or bypassing defeated Turkey,linking with Russian troops from Siria.Jerusalem occupied by Russians.

5. West summons Russia to get out from Israel with a term of six months.

6.Russia doesn`t comply. World War three is initiated.

7.war between Russians and Americans in the Black Sea. Americans will be overwhelmed there

8.big victories of Russians at first involving concealed strategies of deploying troops fast and cooperation with Serbia in the Balkans.Some good counter-offensive from Europeans led by Germans but not enough in order to turn the tide of the war.

9.Americans propose to China and Japan the Asian part of Russia (maybe to South Corea also).The Asians accept the deal.

In other words, the Chews declare war on Russia after Russia occupies Israel? Why would Russia invade Israel after Syria? Does Putin go full Hitler and try to exterminate Chews? And then the Chews successfully bribe China and Japan to invade Russia?

An interesting and plausible series of events.
 
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Mountaineer

 
Banned
Orthodox Catechumen
Gold Member
Spiritual father Elpidios Vaianakis,originary from Greece, having a a Christian-orthodox mission in Africa, who has the gift of forseeing said ten years ago or more that events which currently are unfolding should have started happening in 2012.He made an appeal for a chain of prayer in Greece which eventually involved thousands of Christians. Children at his mission in Africa told him they had dreams with angels telling them that God listened to the prayers and the events, by mercy of God,are delayed. From the events that father Elpidios, ten years ago said, will happen

1.war between Russia and Ukraine

2.war started between Greece and Turkey(also prophetised by Saint Paisios the Athonite, other spiritual contemporary elders and spiritual fathers from the past)

3.intervention of Russia for helping Greece. Pretext: to protect The Russian-Greek gas pipeline according the contact. Distruction of Turkey by Russia (very likely potential nuclear bombing of Turkey). After Saint Paisios the Athonite that will happen in only one week.

4.Russian invasion of Near East from or bypassing defeated Turkey,linking with Russian troops from Siria.Jerusalem occupied by Russians.

5. West summons Russia to get out from Israel with a term of six months.

6.Russia doesn`t comply. World War three is initiated.

7.war between Russians and Americans in the Black Sea. Americans will be overwhelmed there

8.big victories of Russians at first involving concealed strategies of deploying troops fast and cooperation with Serbia in the Balkans.Some good counter-offensive from Europeans led by Germans but not enough in order to turn the tide of the war.

9.Americans propose to China and Japan the Asian part of Russia (maybe to South Corea also).The Asians accept the deal.

10.Russia can`t stand to all powers and loses the war, being reduced to its European side.

America ends victorious but doesn`t have enough hands to applaud the victory, having only 10% of the initial population. (because of some natural calamities besides the war, I think)

A new world emerges.

So, by now, we are at point 1.
Where does the Anti-Christ fit in?
 

Stoyan

Pelican
Orthodox
What are they doing?!!



This happened in the city of Smila, in Cherkasskya oblast. Neo-Nazis from Ukraine territorial defense units beat up and kidnapped a priest of the Moscow Patriarchate, right from the church service.

The main temple in the city is "The Cathedral of the Intercession of the Theotokos". I don't know if it's the same church or not, but visually the size is comparable.

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Please pray for the safety of Orthodox, both clergy and commoners, in Ukraine. It seems obvious that these absolutely mad bands are uncontrollable and posing a threat.
 
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Liviu

Robin
Orthodox
How can war occur between Turkey (NATO member) versus Russia without triggering a war between Russia/USA and WW3?

The implication here seems to be that Turkey will be blamed for the war with Greece, resulting in Turkey getting kicked out of NATO.

Thanks for replying. I think you implied it yourself: Greece is a NATO member too. More, Greece is an European country, member of EU, the cradle of western civilization. Turkey is neither of these. And we have to remember that in past happened worse: UK selling Czechoslovakia to Hitler in order to protect peace in Europe by hand of prim minister Chamberlain. Churchill said : `Between war and dishonour we chose dishonour and we`ll have the war`. Who was right ? So will not be about membership of NATO anymore because NATO simply won`t work then. So, if Czechoslovakia which had borders in central Europe, vouched by western powers,was sold in a critical situation, what do you think could happen with Turkey, which was received in NATO mainly for its strategical position, in a similar situation?

In other words, the Chews declare war on Russia after Russia occupies Israel? Why would Russia invade Israel after Syria? Does Putin go full Hitler and try to exterminate Chews? And then the Chews successfully bribe China and Japan to invade Russia?

An interesting and plausible series of events.

Aren`t we on a Christian forum? Why wouldn`t invade Russia Israel? This is prophecied even in the book of Ezekiel, chapter 38, as many interpreters revealed. Are the words of father Elpidios I extracted from. And anyway the events are allowed by God in His providence.

Noone says that those events will happen in the time of current president of Russia. The order of those events is quite that. The years when will happen, as you saw, is up to Lord.
 
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Liviu

Robin
Orthodox
Where does the Anti-Christ fit in?
I thought we`re on a thread about spiritual implications of current war in Europe. I think you understood: Antichrist will be born AFTER third world war is over. And we don`t know how long will take after that. Most of the fathers say we are close to end but for example, Saint Seraphim of Sarov, said he thinks we`ll pass year 8000 meaning the world will last another half of millenium or about from now on. But as Darius, the initiator of this forum, said, is better to be prepared for a sooner end. Anyway most of the fathers say it will be quite soon. Is a mistery for us and is better this way.
 
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Adrian

 
Banned
Orthodox Catechumen
Where does the Anti-Christ fit in?

Ive been thinking about this. The Temple at Jerusalem being rebuilt is a sign of the coming of the Anti-Christ, this is where he'll rule from. Therefore Mosque al aqsa needs to be destroyed for that to happen. In diplomatic language one might say this is a somewhat delicate matter

There is no way that Jews can be seen to be involved in this event, therefore it has to be done by a "hostile" invading force (or appear to), probably in a time of war, ie not just a 'stray' missile that hits it, because the paradigm wouldn't have changed and it (al aqsa) would just be rebuilt again. It needs to be done in such a way that a paradigmatic shift occurs for the temple to be rebuilt

So, a hostile Russia invading Israel and occupying it would not necessarily be the disaster it would appear, but could actually conveniently solve the headache of the mosque if they were to destroy it, (or are accused of doing so)

So, far from being a worst-case-scenario for Israel, a Russian invasion would in fact be a perfect solution and pave the way for a one world government ruling from the Temple in Jerusalem. It's therefore preparation of conditions needed for humanity to accept the A-C as the saviour

Jews would be using the chief hindrance in the way of attaining it's goal, orthodox Russia, to help achieve them
 

whatitis

Sparrow
Orthodox Inquirer
The Molfar Mihailo Nechai, a soothsayer from Western Ukraine, made a prophecy in 2007 that his country will fall apart and be divided by the neighboring countries.



Translation:


It seems to me this soothsayer is linked with similar entities as these people, so this is a relevant read;

I came across this Twitter thread that might be a plausible answer to some lingering questions, particularly why skeptics would survive:

It doesn't touch on it, but part of this would surely involve people like Russell Brand and maybe even Dr. Robert Malone, both of whom people have been had their suspicions about being controlled opposition. Now from the thread, clearly that huge fatality rate isn't happening, but that doesn't mean it's wrong about the plan, just that their plan isn't working. Remember, Biden warned about a "dark winter" that just didn't happen. Perhaps "warp speed" short circuited it to a large degree.
 

thetruewhitenorth

Kingfisher
Orthodox
I do indeed like seeing women wearing traditional clothing, but how does this relate to the main topic "Spiritual dimensions of the war and signs of God's hand"? I think that this is irrelevent. It is looking just like a kind of fashion show. Please put it in a spoiler, or into another thread.
You're right, is their thread started about Russia culture and arts in general?
 
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