Spiritual dimensions of the war and signs of God's hand

Stoyan

Pelican
Orthodox
Ukraine nationalists demanded to ban the canonical Orthodox church in Ukraine.

 

Stoyan

Pelican
Orthodox

Stoyan

Pelican
Orthodox
Is that the Canonical Orthodox church or the schismatic Orthodox?
Since the late 1980s Soviet, and later Ukrainian, politicians promised to return the building to the Orthodox Church. Due to various schisms, and factions within the Church the return was postponed as all Orthodox and the Greek-Catholic Churches lay claim to it. Although all of the Orthodox churches have been allowed to conduct services at different dates, at other times they are denied access. A severe incident was the funeral of Patriarch Volodymyr of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church – Kyiv Patriarchate in 1995 when riot police were forced to prevent the burial on the premises of the museum and a bloody clash took place.[10][11][12] After events such as those no religious body has yet been given the rights for regular services. The complex now remains a secular museum of Ukraine's Christianity, with most of its visitors being tourists.

Sine it is a secular museum, it is a property of the Ukraine government. So it looks like this prophecy or omen applies to the Ukraine government, not to any of the Churches.
 
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Stoyan

Pelican
Orthodox
On the day of the Epiphany there was a very strong storm wind throughout Ukraine. And in addition to the fall of the cross in Kiev, in Kharkov, on the highest flagpole, the flag of Ukraine was torn in half horizontally along the yellow and blue. In the city of Ternopol, a large banner with the face of Bandera hanging on the city hall was torn to shreds. Coincidence? I don't think so.

In Sevastopol, before the election of Yanukovych for the presidency ... half of the cross on St. Nicholas Church, on Bogdanov Street, broke apart and fell off. Everyone thought that this was a sign, but it never occurred to anyone to imagine that Ukraine would be split in half! So now it becomes clear that crosses don't just fall down like that.
 

El Draque

 
Banned
Orthodox
Ukraine did not hold up their cross, and lost their honor before God. Now they are victims of their own sins.

Can you expand on what you mean exactlt by Ukraine here?

The political class is one thing, but i fail to see how that reflects on the people.

Nor do I buy this imho absurd notion that Russia is acting from the will of God here.

Frankly its ridiculous how far the buy-in has been to pro Russian propaganda and fantasy this site seems to have descended to.
 

Cavalier

Kingfisher
Orthodox
Can you expand on what you mean exactlt by Ukraine here?

The political class is one thing, but i fail to see how that reflects on the people.

Nor do I buy this imho absurd notion that Russia is acting from the will of God here.

Frankly its ridiculous how far the buy-in has been to pro Russian propaganda and fantasy this site seems to have descended to.
I am not necessarily pro Russian. But at the moment Russia does at least seem to be standing against the Globo-Homo forces that have completely taken over the West. The Ukraine seems to not be resisting that. Should the average person be fighting against Russia to keep a Jew Fag in office and allow the West more influence and further degrade their culture? I would not fight for the USA for instance for depravity and against those that oppose it. If I did in victory I could only feel shame.
 

Samseau

Eagle
Orthodox
Gold Member
Can you expand on what you mean exactlt by Ukraine here?

The political class is one thing, but i fail to see how that reflects on the people.

Nor do I buy this imho absurd notion that Russia is acting from the will of God here.

Frankly its ridiculous how far the buy-in has been to pro Russian propaganda and fantasy this site seems to have descended to.

Ukraine means all of it. The parts that carry their cross will survive and the others will fall, same as it is anywhere.

Whether Russia acts from the will of God or Satan makes no difference to those being punished for their sins.
 

El Draque

 
Banned
Orthodox
Ukraine means all of it. The parts that carry their cross will survive and the others will fall, same as it is anywhere.

Whether Russia acts from the will of God or Satan makes no difference to those being punished for their sins.

The grotesque pomposity of standing from afar in judgement of 40m people and their sins.

Mathew 7:1
 

El Draque

 
Banned
Orthodox
Should the average person be fighting against Russia to keep a Jew Fag in office and allow the West more influence and further degrade their culture? I would not fight for the USA for instance for depravity and against those that oppose it. If I did in victory I could only feel shame.

An invaded people dont fight for leaders, good or bad. They fight for their towns and their territory, which in this instance are being shelled and struck by air by a foreign aggressor.

They fight for their families, to stop.the potential of their womenfolk being violated (in this instance by soldiers of an army that is 1 in 5 Muslim), and their sense of who they are as people.

People on the internet talk about abstracted political theories. People in bombed cities during wartime dont.
 

Stoyan

Pelican
Orthodox
Nor do I buy this imho absurd notion that Russia is acting from the will of God here.

Frankly its ridiculous how far the buy-in has been to pro Russian propaganda and fantasy this site seems to have descended to.
While a casual observer would notice that the current war is just being waged between the governments of the Ukraine and the Russian Federation respectively, a war between the rulers as it always happens in history, and such an observation would not necessarily be wrong, it is only a surface level analysis of current events.

I think that we have to also take into analysis the context surrounding the situation. While the war is indeed waged by two different governments in Eastern Europe, it is at the same time a much bigger historical event than appears at the first glance. This war can be described as a conflict between two civilizations, between the Collective Western civilization, which is supporting Ukraine, and the Russian civilization. Russia is now in a state similar to the late stage Qing Dynasty, having lots of potential to become a great power, but population poor and government weak, and is being viewed by the West as a potential colony. In additionally the Ukraine can be described as a Western puppet state just like Manchukuo was a Japanese puppet state. Indeed, Ukraine is an indivisible part of Russia, which so happens to be occupied at the present moment by a government which is run by a literal actor.

Even though some might say that the Russian government is too westernized, or doesn't fully represent the interests of the Russian people, I would say that they are still part of the Russian civilization though, just like the Qing Dynasty was a part of the Chinese civilization, and such criticisms were applied to the Qing Dynasty by their contemporaries also. The Russian civilization is composed of the Russian people, who are for the most part predominantly Orthodox, so this I think is the determining factor.

The conflict between the Western civilization and Russian civilization, which has been going on for many centuries now, is apparently coming to some kind of climax now with this war, the end result of which would be either that Russia takes over Ukraine, or that Russia loses and gets collapsed internally into it's respective republics just like the Soviet Union, and becomes yet another colony just like the Inca Empire, the end of the Russian civilization.

There have been multiple prophecies saying that Russia will be against the Antichrist, and also prophecies saying that the Antichrist would be ruling over the Western civilization specifically. For example medieval saints, to modern day prophets such as Edgar Cayce and Baba Vanga. Multiple people on this forum have written their own threads about why they think that the Western civilization will be the seat of the Antichrist, based on their observations of current events and general historical trends, for instance in the Deep Forum. The assumption here is that as long as the Russian civilization is at least somewhat independent, then the Antichrist cannot implement his NWO in full. It has been said that God would designate some country to be outside of the Antichrist's government in order to save his people.

The other part of this is the "heartland rimland" geopolitical theory, which basically states that the northern central part of Asia (Russia) is the "heartland", because it is the center of the largest continent on the planet. And all the other regions of the world are the "rimland". According to this theory, control of the "heartland" is a prerequisite to ruling the entire world. Without Russia being successfully conquered, the NWO cannot be fully implemented.

Just like the law of gravity compels the planets to go along certain paths, so there are laws which compel history to proceed among certain paths, which can be described as the historical trends. And prophets are those who can see historical trends, whether by logical or psychic means, and describe several certain possible variants of future historical events, sometimes with astonishing accuracy. These historical trends are what causes history to be repeated, for example both Bonaparte's and Hitler's attempted invasions of Russia went very similarly, and met with the same catastrophic result. The fact that Kiev right now is under control of a Neo-Nazi government, means that this is a similar scenario, but unfolding in slow motion. And indeed this war is also similar to the Civil War 100 years ago, or to Veshiy Oleg's capture of Kiev and reunification of the Russian lands.

Both the original Bolsheviks and the original Nazis would have conquered Russia and implemented their respective version of the NWO, at least half a century ago. The fact that they were not able to do this, that Russia still exists, means that God is letting the timeline drag out prolonged, in order to save the maximum amount of people. According to probabilities, Russia as a civilization should have been destroyed by the original Bolsheviks or the Nazis at the start of the 20th century, and completely conquered. As this has not happened, means that God is still saving Russia to play some historical role in the future. What exactly, we can extrapolate by looking at the prophecies mentioned above.

Putin did not want to break with the West, even calling them "our partners" for many years now, but he is forced to break with the West by the historical processes that are set in motion. Because there is no other way; he has already crossed the Rubicon, there is no turning back. Even if by inertia, I would still say that he represents the Russian civilization, and also an anti-globalist force. The particular surface level details are no doubt influential, but the deciding factor are the general historical trends, which are working whether someone wants to or not.
 

Cavalier

Kingfisher
Orthodox
An invaded people dont fight for leaders, good or bad. They fight for their towns and their territory, which in this instance are being shelled and struck by air by a foreign aggressor.

They fight for their families, to stop.the potential of their womenfolk being violated (in this instance by soldiers of an army that is 1 in 5 Muslim), and their sense of who they are as people.

People on the internet talk about abstracted political theories. People in bombed cities during wartime dont.
It is not abstract politics to notice that the fight is on some level at least for the continued supremacy of Globo-Homo. Ukraine allowed itself to be manipulated by the Satanic West. So let’s say they win. Russia is driven out. Putin falls to a color revolution. Gay pride parades take place every year thereafter in Moscow and Kiev. Transgenderism takes root and grows in both countries. Decadence and depravity marches on. What would they have won? It is because of emotionalism and misguided nationalism that the Satanic World Order has won every major war or at least most of them for the past 200 years.
 

El Draque

 
Banned
Orthodox
It is not abstract politics to notice that the fight is on some level at least for the continued supremacy of Globo-Homo. Ukraine allowed itself to be manipulated by the Satanic West. So let’s say they win. Russia is driven out. Putin falls to a color revolution. Gay pride parades take place every year thereafter in Moscow and Kiev. Transgenderism takes root and grows in both countries. Decadence and depravity marches on. What would they have won? It is because of emotionalism and misguided nationalism that the Satanic World Order has won every major war or at least most of them for the past 200 years.

The point being that people being invaded & having their cities shelled do not consider anything beyond the Enemy-Friend dichotomy. They fight for their lands & their families, not poltical motivations.

The overwhelming portrayal on here seems to be that Russia is some sort of Christian last-stand against the Western Beast system. I get it, i used to believe cling to the hope that this was the case too. But it isn't.

Instead Russia is being Gollemed into playing its part in Global false duality, which further kicks all the Agenda 2030 policies down the road.

War, weaponised fear, hyper-inflation, energy shortages, refugees, supply breakdown, food shortages leading to famine in the Third World (and as a result waves of brown refugees in unheard before number).

The Ukrainian refugees being rightly welcomed into the West now, are being used in the grooming of the Western NPCs to accept sub saharans and islamics in the coming 18-36 months as a result of these famines.

The stick they will be beaten with is "we accepted the Ukrainians, it would be racist were we not to do the same!" and it will be highly effective.

However, let's leave that and focus back on Based-Christian-Russia and have a look at the man long described as "Putin's brain", Alexander Dugin.

"Aleksandr Gelyevich Dugin was born in Moscow in 1962, the son of a Soviet secret service officer. In the 1980s, like other descendants of the communist nomenclature, he joined the Yuzhinsky circle which gathered around Yuri Mamleev (1931-2015) in an apartment located on Yuzhinsky Avenue in the center of Moscow. It was there that Dugin came under the influence of the occultist Evgenij Golovin (1938-2010), who introduced him to Western gnostic authors like René Guénon (1886-1951) and Julius Evola (1898-1974). Golovin and Dugin often became inebriated while singing the praises of Nazism (James D. Heiser, The American Empire Should Be Destroyed, Repristination Press, 2014, pp. 40-41), and “Dugin found himself in an environment where Satan, seances, ouija boards, drugs, sex, alcohol, role-playing games and fascism mixed together in an intoxicating cocktail” (Gary Lachman, La stella nera, Edizioni Tlon, 2019, p. 248).

After the fall of the USSR, Dugin collaborated with Gennadiy Zjuganov on the political program of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, and in 1993 he founded the National Bolshevik Party together with Edward Limonov (1943-2020), who joined his bisexuality to an equally bipolar admiration for communism and nazism. Dugin designed the movement’s flag: a black hammer and sickle inside a white circle on a red background. The Russian scientist underwent further influences in his intellectual evolution, from Lev Nikolaevič Gumilëv (1912-1992), from whom he drew the idea of “Eurasia,” to Alain de Benoist, the founder of the neo-pagan Nouvelle Droite. His principal point of reference, however, remains Evola, who is for Dugin what Popper was for Soros: the undisputed master. “Even more, he was the archetypal man who lived in his personal destiny the fate of Tradition in the midst of eschatological darkness. His legacy is more than precious. [...] He testified to the quality of the current reality, and heroically demonstrated the orientation that lesds to what lies beyond. His message is necessary for Europe” (https://www.centrostudilaruna.it/evoladugin.html).

Dugin’s theory of the “Radical Subject” faithfully follows Evola’s “Differentiated Man” – a man who, according to an ancient Chinese proverb, “rides the tiger” and by means of the experience of nihilism divinizes himself. For Dugin, as for Evola, it is only in anarchy that “the darkness gradually clears up and from the abyss of necessity that terrible flower of the absolute individual arises” (J. Evola, Teoria dell’individuo assoluto, Bocca, 1927, pp. 302-304).

Dugin’s principal work is The Fourth Political Theory (Arktos Media Ltd., 2012). In it he affirms that “we must strongly repudiate both anti-communism and anti-fascism” (p. 293). In contrast with Soros, who wants to transform the world into an “open society,” Dugin proposes a “post-modern” alliance of the “enemies of open society” – communists, fascists, and traditionalists. The American tycoon and the Russian political scientist both dream of an empire: that of Soros is rooted in the democracies of the West, while that of Dugin is rooted in the Mongol hordes of the steppes, under the patronage of Russia and China. For both, the road to carrying out these plans passes through planetary chaos.

Pierre-Antoine Plaquevent explains to us that Soros, after introducing the notion of imbalance into finance, wanted to apply this theory to society by means of a “sociology of chaos” which opposes not only “closed society” but also every form of social stability (op. cit., pp. 76-88). Dugin presents himself in turn as the anti-Soros, but he shares in common with him the radical denial of an absolute order of principles. Gary Lachman dwells at length on Dugin’s “politics of chaos” (pp. 271-305), recalling how the cover of his book The Foundations of Geopolitics (1997) shows the “star of Chaos,” an eight-point symbol used by Satanists and occultists. “We must learn to think with the chaos and within the chaos,” Dugin peremptorily affirms (La quarta teoria politica, p. 238), which negates what Soros affirms but within the same relativisitic and nihilistic horizon. Both present themselves as prophets of postmodern chaos and oppose the Catholic Church because it is the depository of the divine and natural law which they reject. For this reason, Soros and Dugin appear as two sides of the same coin, and thus we oppose the lies they propose with the one Truth of He who has given His Light to the darkness and His Order to chaos (Genesis 1:4-5)."


Now let's take a look at his Facebook page:

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Now let's look at the "world without Nazism" movement and the man behind Putin's new Antifa posturing:


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Here's the Jewish oligarch behind it. This magnificent specimen is allegedly very influential in Putin's increasingly small inner circle. A man whose organisation has been involved in rebranding the (((holodomir))).

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Perhaps we can remember (((who))) funded Azov, and see how Russia has benefited from their operation as offering a cassus belli in Ukraine.


Now let's see what Russia's western broadcasters say about those who hold the views that many on here seem to possess.

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And most pertinently of all...

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