Spiritual dimensions of the war and signs of God's hand

Stoyan

 
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It is because of emotionalism and misguided nationalism that the Satanic World Order has won every major war or at least most of them for the past 200 years.
It has been said by multiple people that the Western civilization has been subverted and corrupted from the inside. I would say that there are actually two Western civilizations, the old Christian Western civilization, and the new Antichristian Western civilization. And now the new one is eating up the old one. However we cannot say that the old one is a completely separate entity from the old one either.

How can we describe and explain the history in the past 500 years or so? It was the battle of the civilizations, always has been. It seems that the old Western civilization has been used as a battering ram, as the foot soldiers, to demolish the other civilizations, such as the Native American civilizations, African, Indian, Southeast Asian, Indonesian, and also an attempt at Chinese civilization. And there have been multiple attempts against the Russian civilization as well. And after the old Western civilization has fulfilled it's use, it was simply discarded, or used as the foundation to build the new civilization on top of it.

How did we come to this scenario, where almost all the entire world is westernized, where almost every country is a dependent or quasi colony of some shade? I do not think that it is just due to coincidence or random historical circumstances. Although Columbus and the conquistadors were led by imperialism, emotionalism, and misguided nationalism, their actions directly or indirectly led to such a world where all the alternative civilizations have since been removed from the game board, and only the new Western civilization remains, the one to implement a globalism system. Because as long as there are independent civilizations in the world, each with their own unique culture, worldview, and social structures, a truly globalist system cannot be established.

We can debate whether or not the colonizers realized that their wars would eventually pave way for a NWO of sorts. It seems like a bizarre conspiracy theory to suggest that all of human history for the past 500 years has been engineered, but that seems to be the case when you consider it all from the bird's eye view, what looks like the final result of all these seemingly random events? It seems to suggest that such manipulation of the timeline can only be caused by non-human forces. God, and the gods, Satan, and the demons, aliens, spirits, egregores, and other paranormal entities. I don't think that the European colonizers could have foresaw such an outcome. It can only be seen from the bird's eye view, either by historians who retroactively study these events, or by non-human entities for whom time flows differently, and thus are able to influence history over a prolonged period of time spanning centuries or thousands of years even.
 

Stoyan

 
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Alexander Dugin
We already have a Dugin thread. Can you post into that thread instead?

 

El Draque

 
Banned
Orthodox
It has been said by multiple people that the Western civilization has been subverted and corrupted from the inside. I would say that there are actually two Western civilizations, the old Christian Western civilization, and the new Antichristian Western civilization. And now the new one is eating up the old one. However we cannot say that the old one is a completely separate entity from the old one either.

How can we describe and explain the history in the past 500 years or so? It was the battle of the civilizations, always has been. It seems that the old Western civilization has been used as a battering ram, as the foot soldiers, to demolish the other civilizations, such as the Native American civilizations, African, Indian, Southeast Asian, Indonesian, and also an attempt at Chinese civilization. And there have been multiple attempts against the Russian civilization as well. And after the old Western civilization has fulfilled it's use, it was simply discarded, or used as the foundation to build the new civilization on top of it.

How did we come to this scenario, where almost all the entire world is westernized, where almost every country is a dependent or quasi colony of some shade? I do not think that it is just due to coincidence or random historical circumstances. Although Columbus and the conquistadors were led by imperialism, emotionalism, and misguided nationalism, their actions directly or indirectly led to such a world where all the alternative civilizations have since been removed from the game board, and only the new Western civilization remains, the one to implement a globalism system. Because as long as there are independent civilizations in the world, each with their own unique culture, worldview, and social structures, a truly globalist system cannot be established.

We can debate whether or not the colonizers realized that their wars would eventually pave way for a NWO of sorts. It seems like a bizarre conspiracy theory to suggest that all of human history for the past 500 years has been engineered, but that seems to be the case when you consider it all from the bird's eye view, what looks like the final result of all these seemingly random events? It seems to suggest that such manipulation of the timeline can only be caused by non-human forces. God, and the gods, Satan, and the demons, aliens, spirits, egregores, and other paranormal entities. I don't think that the European colonizers could have foresaw such an outcome. It can only be seen from the bird's eye view, either by historians who retroactively study these events, or by non-human entities for whom time flows differently, and thus are able to influence history over a prolonged period of time spanning centuries or thousands of years even.

I'd view the European empires as having latterly been subverted by (((another group))).

The civilisations that were 'demolished' were not as technologically advanced or as cohesive. This is just a case of survival of the fittest. I dont believe that they were treated unduly cruely, in comparison to other similar cases of Imperialism throughout history. This sort of belief comes from a revisionist approach to history we have all come to know. In many cases they were built up and given the tools of civilisation post Empire, only to fall back into primitive corruption and gangsterism.

I dont see many other groups of imperial victors in history that treated its vanquished enemies as well as the Europeans. Lest we forget it was the Europeans that brought Chist's message to the dakest corners of the world.

Look at the distinction between United States slavery & that of the Arabic world, who gelded (castrated) their male slaves, in USA they got 12 year labour and then a small-holding. Look again at the distinction that slaves in South America got, they were worked far harder, more violently treated. Brazil imported far more than USA did, and the death rate was off the charts.
 

Good_Shepherd

Kingfisher
Orthodox Catechumen
Many of us here acknowledge a spiritual element of this war concerning good versus evil. This isn't to say that Vladimir Putin is King David (God's anointed), or even a Tsar-like figure, but the effort of the neoliberal order, which is mostly controlled by Jews and godless men, to utterly destroy Russia, a resurgent Orthodox Christian nation, does suggest that the West is on the side of Satan and Russia on the side of God. Again, this isn't to suggest that every action Russia does is God's will or intention, and Putin is certainly capable of doing evil deeds, so I refer to the general outline of the conflict.

Feel free to share your thoughts, relevant passages from the Scripture, quotes from the Saints, and any other Orthodox prophecies that may apply to this war. To discuss impact on the Russian Orthodox Church, use this thread.
Iv always said the future of white people is in the east not the west :)
 

Samseau

Peacock
Orthodox
Gold Member
The grotesque pomposity of standing from afar in judgement of 40m people and their sins.

Mathew 7:1

I don't need to judge anyone. God already told us through Christ that those who do not bear their cross will suffer immensely, and we shall know them by their fruits. Ukraine's predicament is it's own fault, and I pray that the innocent there are spared.
 
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Bismark_Geist1571

Woodpecker
Catholic
Look at the distinction between United States slavery & that of the Arabic world, who gelded (castrated) their male slaves, in USA they got 12 year labour and then a small-holding. Look again at the distinction that slaves in South America got, they were worked far harder, more violently treated. Brazil imported far more than USA did, and the death rate was off the charts.

Well, truth be told, Blacks and mulattoes make up half the country and slavery in Brazil while being harsher than that in the Spanish colonies, was in many aspects more humane than the Anglo version. Even today, no American black can claim, beyond doubt, that his/her success is due to his own effort, because the shadow of affirmative action will always taint the reputation and merits of the beneficiary groups. Until Lula da Silva government any successful black or mulatto could be proud of himself and his accomplishments in Brazil.
 

Bismark_Geist1571

Woodpecker
Catholic
How can we describe and explain the history in the past 500 years or so? It was the battle of the civilizations, always has been. It seems that the old Western civilization has been used as a battering ram, as the foot soldiers, to demolish the other civilizations, such as the Native American civilizations, African, Indian, Southeast Asian, Indonesian, and also an attempt at Chinese civilization. And there have been multiple attempts against the Russian civilization as well. And after the old Western civilization has fulfilled it's use, it was simply discarded, or used as the foundation to build the new civilization on top of it.

The "alternative" civilizations you mentioned were in many cases manifestations of darkness, stagnated in time, having chosen practices that not only guaranteed technological stagnation but physical deterioration as well, the latter being visible up to this day (lower IQs, higher rates of birth defects. etc.). You can just check the history of American aborigines and their civilizations, the Spaniard recounts have been mostly vindicated by the archeological findings in recent years after being accused of bias by academia for decades.

The Greater European civilization (from which Russia is part of) underwent a period of cleansing (spread of Christianism, prohibition of cousin marriages, widespread death penalty, etc.), social advances (abolition of slavery in most places) and technological breakthroughs (The inventions during the middle ages like the book, the windmill, etc.) inspired by Christian teachings; a period that lasted a 1000 years and has been slandered nonstop. Christian worldview influenced all stages of life, literature of the classical world was preserved and the achievements of the ancients were outdone in many areas. By the time western Europeans set sail and discovered other civilizations, Europeans were so much advanced than the rest of the world that the clash and eventual conquest of those alternative civilizations was inevitable and in many cases supported by the locals (Hernán Cortés didn't march on the Aztec empire with 25,000 men at his back). The Best example of how this played out can be found in the Spanish conquest of America that didn't involve the extermination of the native tribes (most of the dead were by the diseases the conquistadors brought with them, not by sword or gunpowder weapons) but the mixing and creation of new nations (that are still in formation). as well as the spread of Christianity. Were it not for them, Christianity would still be a European religion. This is the reason the world "appears" to be westernized.

Western Europeans though imperfect, were provided with many blessings by the Lord, unfortunately those blessings were misused and abused, and starting in the 1500s "Reformation" a gradual abandonment of Christian teachings began. Religious wars destroyed what was once called Christendom (to the point that countries like England and France allied themselves with the Turks and Arabs in order to destroy Spain), Catholics and protestants killed each other in the 30 year war destroying the German sphere by killing a third of its population and setting back German unification for centuries,, etc. This abandonment of Christian teachings was accelerated by the French Revolution and the "Enlightenment that preceded it, a period from where most of our modern pre-conceptions (and heresies) stem. It is from this period onwards that de-christianization of the west picked up the pace leading to the creation of what we call globohomo really started. By the time the Brits and French started conquering Africa (late 19th century), they didn't even try to evangelize anyone, in part because for all intents and purposes, they weren't Christian and any Christian justification was just lip service. Christians were a minority (a visible one but a minority nonetheless) at the turn of the 20th century in most western countries except maybe in the US and some Latin countries like Spain, Portugal and Italy as well as in Greece.

Curiously, one of our "elite" goals, along with total enslavement and depopulation is a return to the spirituality of those "alternative" civilizations you just mentioned...and the complete destruction of Christianity. It's not for nothing they have their little infiltration in most churches, starting with the catholic church.
 
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Stoyan

 
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Orthodox
I'd view the European empires as having latterly been subverted by (((another group))).
If the European empires were subverted by another human group, then that human group was just a middlemen for non-human entities. I don't think that any human group can keep track of all the actions necessary to lead into a single world order, especially considering all the possible wars and revolutions that had to happen. Yet the actions of these European empires directly led to a globalism system. Why is that so?

I would say that indeed the European empires spread Christianity across the globe. But perhaps the colonization period had a second purpose as well, to eventually clear the playing board for a global empire? Maybe this is my hypothesis that the old Western civilization was used by the architects of the new Western civilization, as a kind of tool?

This abandonment of Christian teachings was accelerated by the French Revolution and the "Enlightenment that preceded it, a period from where most of our modern pre-conceptions (and heresies) stem. It is from this period onwards that de-christianization of the west picked up the pace leading to the creation of what we call globohomo really started. By the time the Brits and French started conquering Africa (late 19th century), they didn't even try to evangelize anyone, in part because for all intents and purposes, they weren't Christian and any Christian justification was just lip service. Christians were a minority (a visible one but a minority nonetheless)

I would agree that the "Enlightenment" period was the first sign of the Antichristian globohomo agenda. Maybe it is possible that this was the exact time period that the previously Christian European empires were subverted and turned into merely secular ones, and then later into blatant Antichristian ones?

I think that (((they))) had to wait for Christianity to be spread all over the world as a prerequisite, as a kind of "consent" or "taking turns". After the Light has had it's turn, the Dark needs to have it's turn as well. The actions of the Light inadvertently serve to advance the goals of the Dark, and vice versa. Anyway, it seems like a massive amount of timeline manipulation by non-human forces here.

Curiously, one of our "elite" goals, along with total enslavement and depopulation is a return to the spirituality of those "alternative" civilizations you just mentioned...and the complete destruction of Christianity.
What do you mean by that? Isn't the NWO a completely Western-centric project?
 

Bismark_Geist1571

Woodpecker
Catholic
I think that (((they))) had to wait for Christianity to be spread all over the world as a prerequisite, as a kind of "consent" or "taking turns". After the Light has had it's turn, the Dark needs to have it's turn as well. The actions of the Light inadvertently serve to advance the goals of the Dark, and vice versa. Anyway, it seems like a massive amount of timeline manipulation by non-human forces here.

What you say is interesting. It's possible that while obeying the mandate "Go and preach the Gospel to all the nations", we set up the environment that would later be used against us.

What do you mean by that? Isn't the NWO a completely Western-centric project?

The NWO is mostly a transhumanist-centric project. Even in their own "promotional video", one of their main prophecies is that "western values" aka Christian based values (what's left of them at least) would be challenged and taken to their breaking point. And judging by the ever more overt demonstrations of the elites faith (Gothard tunnel anyone? The Grammys, etc), as well as their actions (active promotion of new age stuff, budhism, "traditional cults", debasement of anyting that smells Christian, praise of everything pagan or anti-Christian in series, movies, books music, general culture, etc.) you can bet the farm that repaganization of the formerly Christian Western World is one of their goals. They didn't spend millions infiltrating all Christian Churches for nothing.

If they could get away with it, the fate of the Notredame cathedral would be shared by all churches in Europe, and maybe that's one of the reasons for the Islamic immigration policies as well as the BLM madness...let them finish the destruction work. And Yes, I agree, reluctantly, that there is a non-human element in all this.
 
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Stoyan

 
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Unfortunately multiple temples of the Ukrainian Orthodox Church have been damaged in the war. I hope that they will be restored after the war ends.

 

Mountaineer

 
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Gold Member
Are these the churches of schismatic Orthodox Church of Ukraine or the Ukrainian Orthodox Church?
 

Pavel

Robin
Orthodox
Archbishop of Greek church in Britain in a support rally of the Ukrainian people

Prayers were said across the UK for Ukraine on Sunday. Here Archbishop Nikitas, joins, former Archbishop of York John Sentamu, Kenneth Nowakowsk, bishop of the Ukrainian Catholic Eparchy and other clergy to bear witness at the Statue of St Volodymr by the Ukrainian embassy.






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Stoyan

 
Banned
Orthodox
An update on the situation which has been written about in previous posts.

The government of Ukraine, which can only be reffered to as saloreich, has published a bill to ban the Ukraine Orthodox Church (of the Muscovite Patriarchate).


 
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Stoyan

 
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Even more insightful articles, piped through google translator.




 

El Draque

 
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More from the man described as "Putin's Brain". Whatever spiritual dimensions he's interested in, I'd rather have no part in.

DUGIN DECLARING (((KABBALAH))) “GREATEST ACHIEVEMENT OF HUMAN SPIRIT”​


 

GuitarVH

Ostrich
Orthodox Inquirer
More from the man described as "Putin's Brain". Whatever spiritual dimensions he's interested in, I'd rather have no part in.

DUGIN DECLARING (((KABBALAH))) “GREATEST ACHIEVEMENT OF HUMAN SPIRIT”​




Isn't he Russian Orthodox? If this is old, shouldn't he be judged by what he believes now?
 
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