Stanford Rape Case: Victim Letter Going Viral

BlastbeatCasanova

Kingfisher
I don't remember what made me search up Brock Turner on here, I guess I figured there would be some quality analysis. Fucking mind blown. I'll admit that I was hoodwinked and in the "looks pretty cut and dry, guilty as fuck" camp. Mad props to TLOZ and others for their analysis. I've taken precautions before (voice-recording a few sexual encounters with some suspect chicks, etc.) but man...Life, everything as he knew it, changed forever in one night...Terrifying.

Not going to stop me from going out and slaying box though
 

DarkTriad

Ostrich
Gold Member
jeffreyjerpp said:
General Stalin said:
Taking the example of some kid getting in trouble for fingering a girl who was passed out in an alley as "all heterosexual males are 2nd class citizens" is ridiculous.

There's a crazy echo chamber effect in this community and too many fear-mongering dudes who are out of touch.

I assure you that real-life is quite different from what you read from hysterical stories on the web.

"Jack Montague and his attorneys recently discovered that David Post, who chaired the hearing panel against the basketball player, had been directly involved in getting his accuser to file a claim against him.....But Post was called in to assist Yale’s Deputy Title IX Coordinator Angela Gleason in convincing Montague’s accuser — referred to only as Jane Roe in court documents — to file a formal complaint against him, after she had opted for an informal resolution that wouldn’t punish the former basketball captain."

Real life is definitely different, but make no mistake, men are either second class citizens or walking targets in many academic and corporate environments (where sadly I spend my time). For example Yale bureaucrats literally conspired to get a kid expelled, because he was a star athlete and they wanted to show they were "serious" about fighting the fake rape culture they invented. I would also be unsurprised if politically motivated DAs in democrat controlled areas started pushing show trials to bolster their reputation.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/33651/yale-administrator-encouraged-accuser-come-forward-ashe-schow

It was called The Duke Rape Case. The guys stood solid and prevented a miscarriage of justice that probably saved thousands of other young men.
 
DarkTriad said:
jeffreyjerpp said:
General Stalin said:
Taking the example of some kid getting in trouble for fingering a girl who was passed out in an alley as "all heterosexual males are 2nd class citizens" is ridiculous.

There's a crazy echo chamber effect in this community and too many fear-mongering dudes who are out of touch.

I assure you that real-life is quite different from what you read from hysterical stories on the web.

"Jack Montague and his attorneys recently discovered that David Post, who chaired the hearing panel against the basketball player, had been directly involved in getting his accuser to file a claim against him.....But Post was called in to assist Yale’s Deputy Title IX Coordinator Angela Gleason in convincing Montague’s accuser — referred to only as Jane Roe in court documents — to file a formal complaint against him, after she had opted for an informal resolution that wouldn’t punish the former basketball captain."

Real life is definitely different, but make no mistake, men are either second class citizens or walking targets in many academic and corporate environments (where sadly I spend my time). For example Yale bureaucrats literally conspired to get a kid expelled, because he was a star athlete and they wanted to show they were "serious" about fighting the fake rape culture they invented. I would also be unsurprised if politically motivated DAs in democrat controlled areas started pushing show trials to bolster their reputation.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/33651/yale-administrator-encouraged-accuser-come-forward-ashe-schow

It was called The Duke Rape Case. The guys stood solid and prevented a miscarriage of justice that probably saved thousands of other young men.

ESPN did a great 30 for 30 documentary called Fantastic Lies, which was about the Duke case. I would recommend everyone see this film, especially college men or those planning on going to college. It just shows the abuse of power and the lengths that some prosecutors will go to railroad someone for personal interests. It also shows the insane hysteria and knee-jerk reaction by professors and students on an American campus.

Luckily these young men had a great support system with strong, stable families who could afford quality legal representation. There are probably a lot of young men who did not have the same resources available to them and as a result got chewed up by the system.
 

jeffreyjerpp

Kingfisher
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This is the "victim" of Brock turner, real name Chanel Miller. Look at those eyes...totally normal and well adjusted woman, right?

In case any of you bigoted patriarchs thought she was some kind of deranged, attention seeking slut, well, you couldn't have been more wrong. Sure, she is leering like a deranged lunatic and was out cheating on her boyfriend the night of the "assault", but those are minor details compared to how evil the handsome white athlete was, thinking it was OK to hook up with drunk girls like that.

In fact, you'll learn even more about just how wrong you were in her upcoming book, "Know My Name":

"For the last three years, Miller has been known to the public only as "Emily Doe." Now, the New York Times reports, she will be releasing her first book.

"Know My Name," published by Viking and set for release on Sept. 24, reflects on Miller's life before, during and after the infamous Brock Turner trial.

Viking editor-in-chief Andrea Schu told the Times, "I jumped out of my chair to acquire [the book] because it was just obvious to me from the beginning what she had to say and how different it was and how extraordinarily well she was going to say it. She had the brain and the voice of a writer from the very beginning, even in that situation."

Miller was 22 and a recent college graduate when she attended a 2015 fraternity party at Stanford with her sister and friends. At some point, her friends lost track of her and went home, court records indicate. In the early morning, two Stanford graduate students testified they saw Turner sexually assaulting Miller, who was unconscious."

mysanantonio.com/bayarea/article/chanel-miller-know-my-name-book-14412932.php
 

Kona

Crow
Gold Member
I think her management team is brilliant. See, if you don't buy the book they wrote for her you are nothing but a big bigot.

Aloha!
 
This woman gets drunkenly fingered by an equally drunk jock at a frat party, and somehow white knights and feminists make her the face of modern rape victimhood? Don’t these feminists and white knights see the sheer ignorance in parading her as a victim, as if her bad makeout session is akin to REAL victims of actual, brutal, violent rape? Brock should have claimed to be a post op tranny, so the leftists could call out this woman for the bigotry of her regret.
 

CaptainS

Hummingbird
jeffreyjerpp said:
"Know My Name," published by Viking and set for release on Sept. 24, reflects on Miller's life before, during and after the infamous Brock Turner trial.

Know My Name, I'm the girl who had a boyfriend yet went to a fraternity party, got drunk, picked up a guy, walked past my sister who approved, called my boyfriend to tell him I wouldn't be home, then left with a guy to have sex. I got caught rescued from the guy I agreed to leave the party with to have sex. I tried to ruin his life. When that didn't work, I decided to try again and make money off of it by writing a book. I'm poison to men and should be avoided.

I'm Chanel Miller.

She had the brain and the voice of a writer from the very beginning, even in that situation.

Yeah, fiction.
 

debeguiled

Peacock
Gold Member
The sad thing, I am so used to women lying or exaggerating things like this, that if this guy did cross the line, it would be very hard to make me believe it.

Staying anonymous after the fact gives her credibility.

Attention whoring after trauma is highly suspicious behavior.

Modern women are using operant conditioning to make men think their are liars.

I am reaching a point of maximum indifference towards rape claims.

But keep going girls.

Nothing like lies on top of lies on top of lies to make people believe you.

My natural instinct is to protect you and believe you.

Instead, a sad hashtag is forming in my soul against my will:

#BelieveNoWomen
 

Bluto

 
Banned
jeffreyjerpp said:
Miller was 22 and a recent college graduate when she attended a 2015 fraternity party at Stanford with her sister and friends. At some point, her friends lost track of her and went home, court records indicate. In the early morning, two Stanford graduate students testified they saw Turner sexually assaulting Miller, who was unconscious."

mysanantonio.com/bayarea/article/chanel-miller-know-my-name-book-14412932.php

Those are some pretty shitty friends if that was the case.

Captainstabbin said:
Know My Name, I'm the girl who had a boyfriend yet went to a fraternity party, got drunk, picked up a guy, walked past my sister who approved, called my boyfriend to tell him I wouldn't be home, then left with a guy to have sex. I got caught rescued from the guy I agreed to leave the party with to have sex. I tried to ruin his life. When that didn't work, I decided to try again and make money off of it by writing a book. I'm poison to men and should be avoided.

Yep, that's more like it.

BTW WNB
 

jeffreyjerpp

Kingfisher
debeguiled said:
But keep going girls.

Nothing like lies on top of lies on top of lies to make people believe you.

My natural instinct is to protect you and believe you.

Instead, a sad hashtag is forming in my soul against my will:

#BelieveNoWomen

It's not even the lies that get me....the truth is the worst part.

Her behavior was trashy and shameful. She got finger banged while blacked out, after getting drunk at a party, and leaving it to cheat on her boyfriend.

What consequences did she get? A humiliating breakup with her boyfriend? Notoriety in her circle of friends and family for drunken promiscuity?

The truth is that she is richly rewarded, while Turner gets a brutal life sentence. The only reasonable authority figure in the entire saga, Judge Persky, was run out of town by livid feminist harpies. A lot of people probably know, deep down, there is something terribly wrong with all of this, but can't say so out loud, because the harpies would come for them next.

Our society is ruled over by drunk sluts and vicious harridans. God help us.
 

bucky

Hummingbird
Other Christian
Captainstabbin said:
Know My Name, I'm the girl who had a boyfriend yet went to a fraternity party, got drunk, picked up a guy, walked past my sister who approved, called my boyfriend to tell him I wouldn't be home, then left with a guy to have sex. I got caught rescued from the guy I agreed to leave the party with to have sex. I tried to ruin his life.

I'm Chanel Miller.

"Tried?" Did Brock Turner somehow recover from this in some way that I haven't heard? He's registered as sex offender now, which I believe is for life. He's in constant danger of being lynched by mobs of crazed leftists, and I'd be very surprised to hear that he's employed in any way. Also lost his chance to ever compete in competitive swimming again. Sounds pretty ruined to me.
 

bucky

Hummingbird
Other Christian
I used to be 100% in favor of foreign women over the domestic (US) product, but as an older guy with more experience my views are now more nuanced. That said, cases like this one are a strong argument in favor of foreign women from places like EE and Latin America over American women and western women in general. I know I'm not going to rape anyone, and women from places outside the West are highly unlikely to falsely accuse a guy of rape and try to profit off of it because getting raped is considered shameful in most of the world, not something to brag about.
 

JayR

Kingfisher
Atheist
bucky said:
"Tried?" Did Brock Turner somehow recover from this in some way that I haven't heard? He's registered as sex offender now, which I believe is for life. He's in constant danger of being lynched by mobs of crazed leftists, and I'd be very surprised to hear that he's employed in any way. Also lost his chance to ever compete in competitive swimming again. Sounds pretty ruined to me.

I heard on MSM news last night that he's living with his parents in Ohio, working in a factory for $12/hour.
 

jeffreyjerpp

Kingfisher
bucky said:
"Tried?" Did Brock Turner somehow recover from this in some way that I haven't heard? He's registered as sex offender now, which I believe is for life. He's in constant danger of being lynched by mobs of crazed leftists, and I'd be very surprised to hear that he's employed in any way. Also lost his chance to ever compete in competitive swimming again. Sounds pretty ruined to me.

His life isn't just "ruined" in the normal sense. Let's say he had been expelled from Stanford for fondling this drunk slut, or accidentally hit and killed a cyclist while under the influence.

There would be serious, life altering consequences. Tons of social shame, expulsion from friend groups, possible prison time, reduced ability to get any kind of job, etc.

But there would always be the chance that ultimately, he could still make it. Have a real career, a family, etc, and leave whatever mistakes he made in the past, having already paid dearly for them.

This is how a sane society deals with non-heinous crimes. You do something wrong, you pay the price, and you move on. It's basically a Christian notion of repentance and absolution. Brock Turner should have gotten some sort of proportionate punishment, then be allowed to go back to swimming and living his life.

But leftist "justice" is merely a vehicle to viciously punish any perceived enemies, like white males. Historically, their favorite punishment is death camps and mass starvation.

Actually ruining Brock Turner's life, which they have succeeded in since he is now the international poster boy for "rape", was simply the next best thing to a tortured confession and public execution. He is a permanently infamous pariah, and will live out the rest of his life in agonizing isolation and shame. He will never have a normal family, career, or social life, ever. Short of leaving the country to start over somewhere like Eastern Europe, it's over for him.
 

bk19xsa

Robin
Why didn't he just move out of the country? Some based EE/Asian country would have taken him and he would go back to swimming. Infact some Gulf Middle Eastern country would have fastracked him with citizenship to represent that country in Olympics. He would have enjoyed all the perks of a lavish lifestyle that come with it rather than getting 12$ an hour in a factory. They could have sponsored him to complete his degree from a renowned university in Europe or Asia.

From the news about this deranged girl coming out, it seems even more that Brock is innocent. This chick wants attention, fame and money. She is exploiting her so called sexual assault by publishing a book to gain exactly those things. Do you really think true victims of sexual assault ever do that? They mostly want to move on once they get justice.

The MSN is celebrating this. On my FB, I saw that the city's newspaper came out with her news. So, on the comment section, I saw everyone (mostly females) praising her. I posted 'why does she want attention?' and within an hour I got two comments, both from men; one white soyboy asking why do I want attention, which made me laugh and a black old dude asking me to kill myself. I reported the later comment for violence. The more bigger issue is that my brother messaged me saying that he saw what I posted as the comment turned up on his newsfeed. He lives in another country and hasn't visited my city's newspaper FB page in his life. Why is he seeing that comment? That also meant many people on my friends list would have got my comment in their newsfeed. The issue with that is some of them are highly liberal and also in positions where they can badmouth me to other important people, who I might need. How the hell do I not allow my comments on unrelated FB pages or groups to not turn up on friends' newsfeed? I am not going to stop myself from posting some truth on ridiculous news stories such as this one.
 
bk19xsa said:
How the hell do I not allow my comments on unrelated FB pages or groups to not turn up on friends' newsfeed? I am not going to stop myself from posting some truth on ridiculous news stories such as this one.

Standard practice is just to make an alternate/sockpuppet FB account for just this purpose.
 
Neo said:
Yeah she made a mistake by getting black out drunk.

But come on guys, from what I read the guy seems guilty as hell here. There were two witnesses who saw him having sex with the girl who was unconscious.

Let's say that she consented and then passed out. EVEN THEN, this dude still decided to continue to bang her on a dirt road, then went to run away when the guys asked what he was doing? Sounds pretty fucked up to me.

Culture war or not, the guy seems guilty and his sentence is far too light.

I don't think I've ever had sex with a woman who wasn't drunk (the first time), I was also drunk.
In the country I currently live, going somewhere alone with a guy is considered consent enough.

PS. If I'd been drunk enough to take that woman home, the equipment wouldn't have worked.
 

eradicator

Peacock
Agnostic
Gold Member
bk19xsa said:
Why didn't he just move out of the country?

I assumed he lost his passport?

He was able to get into Stanford, making him one of the top 1% of the people in the world, he should absolutely go to some other country where no one has heard of him and try to restart, finish college etc.

Better than making 12 bucks an hour in a factory
 
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