Starting a local porn production company like Brazzers

[jamaicabound]

Others have covered the obstacles to a small start-up. I know a couple who does private cam shows live and makes some good money doing it. I think you'd have your best luck doing things custom for people or even live and take suggestions. Problem with that is its not scalable and requires ongoing work as opposed to just setting up a site and having a fairly passive i come.

If you wana set up a site I think you gotta find a small wierd niche like girls fucking pillows or adult breastfeeding or some niche that is lacking or has limited content out there.

 

[Cr33pin]

Cr33pin,
Awesome buddy! I'm sure you'll kill it! Are you going to start locally? Or hit the road and start shooting? Where is your first destination?

We have to link up somewhere buddy!

Thanks VP, I have high hopes for your modeling agency as well! I'm gonna make my first 10 videos to open my C4S studio with the current GF. That way when I hit the road in the next few months I will be able to just upload new videos as I shoot them. As of now the plan is still Lima Peru to start my South American tour then back to Asia around maybe the spring of next year. We will def have to link up when I'm in Asia... If your are still around. If not my travel schedule is pretty open we can link up somewhere filled with hot young girls!!

Others have covered the obstacles to a small start-up. I know a couple who does private cam shows live and makes some good money doing it. I think you'd have your best luck doing things custom for people or even live and take suggestions. Problem with that is its not scalable and requires ongoing work as opposed to just setting up a site and having a fairly passive i come.

If you wana set up a site I think you gotta find a small wierd niche like girls fucking pillows or adult breastfeeding or some niche that is lacking or has limited content out there.

I'm certainty open to the live show aspect of it as well. The more types of ways to get my stuff out there the merrier. As far as the "work" being on going I'm cool with that as well.

I have a niche market I am going for. Its a big niche but I have a twist on it that separates it from most. Plus I think the allure of banging young amateur girls in different countries can be a niche itself.

 

[jamaicabound]

I definately think your onto something with the amatuers. Theres a guy habib who goes to DR and other places and makes videos but his seem too staged. I like the idea though. You could even hire these girls as cam girls and guys who like the videos can have one on one cam shows with girls in the videos. Be sure your aware of any local laws or requirements in other countries

 

[Cr33pin]

I definately think your onto something with the amatuers. Theres a guy habib who goes to DR and other places and makes videos but his seem too staged. I like the idea though. You could even hire these girls as cam girls and guys who like the videos can have one on one cam shows with girls in the videos. Be sure your aware of any local laws or requirements in other countries

Thanks for the solid advice through out this thread.

I am already aware that some countries might not like me shooting my own porn there and will do research before doing so for sure.

Of course I could always just shoot the footage in said country but not edit it and put it online till I am far from the country

 

[Papaya]

I don't know if it's already been done but what about "CUSTOM" porn as a business model?

It appears to me that the cost of creating, and market saturation of "spec" porn are the primary obstacles. Custom porn would avoid both of those issues.

Essentially it would work like this. The client PREPAYS and then chooses how the scene will play (it could be as simple as choosing from a menu; fellatio, cunnilingus, anal, titty fuck, reverse cowgirl, facial, etc.)Then the actors do the scene as "directed" by the client. The girl could even use his real name like "oh Bob, I love your cock, yada yada".

Basically there's little risk because nothing is produced until it's ordered. I see it essentially as the Chipoltle business model for porn

 

[Rico Suave]

Creepin how much is this costing to start it all up?

Rico

 

[Dr. Howard]

I don't know if it's already been done but what about "CUSTOM" porn as a business model?

It appears to me that the cost of creating, and market saturation of "spec" porn are the primary obstacles. Custom porn would avoid both of those issues.

Essentially it would work like this. The client PREPAYS and then chooses how the scene will play (it could be as simple as choosing from a menu; fellatio, cunnilingus, anal, titty fuck, reverse cowgirl, facial, etc.)Then the actors do the scene as "directed" by the client. The girl could even use his real name like "oh Bob, I love your cock, yada yada".

Basically there's little risk because nothing is produced until it's ordered. I see it essentially as the Chipoltle business model for porn

genius, especially if its qued in batches...ie the producer needs 10 custom requests to cover the overhead of setup, shooting and production. That is some good thinking, especially on a marketing to women angle.

 

[Papaya]

I don't know if it's already been done but what about "CUSTOM" porn as a business model?

It appears to me that the cost of creating, and market saturation of "spec" porn are the primary obstacles. Custom porn would avoid both of those issues.

Essentially it would work like this. The client PREPAYS and then chooses how the scene will play (it could be as simple as choosing from a menu; fellatio, cunnilingus, anal, titty fuck, reverse cowgirl, facial, etc.)Then the actors do the scene as "directed" by the client. The girl could even use his real name like "oh Bob, I love your cock, yada yada".

Basically there's little risk because nothing is produced until it's ordered. I see it essentially as the Chipoltle business model for porn

genius, especially if its qued in batches...ie the producer needs 10 custom requests to cover the overhead of setup, shooting and production. That is some good thinking, especially on a marketing to women angle.

Exactly.... Its also analogous to Dell Computer's model from a production standpoint.

I hadn't thought of the "for women" angle but yeah that's definitely a natural line extension along with "for couples" I could see it as "Maybach" of porn, hand crafted and customized exclusively for the client

 

[jamaicabound]

The porn for women angle is already out there but still lacking, that could be a good niche. I recently introduced my girl to porn from passionhd production company I think they'r called. She cant get enough of it. Its not that soft core storyline crap either. I would say the main differences shes commented on are the guys are actually muscled attractive younger guys and not wierd looking out of shape hairy guys like a lot of porn. Also though its still hard porn its not quite as "degrading" for lakc of a better word in that its not all facefucking amd facials. If you wana try introducing the idea of threesomes tp your girl these videos would be a great way to start down that path.

 

[Cr33pin]

Creepin how much is this costing to start it all up?

Rico

So far I have spent around $600 on a HD camera and accessories. It came with video editing software. An I spent like $60 bucks at Wal Mart on some lighting ha. This is gonna be amateur mostly point of view videos. I am gonna order another camera I can set up on a tri pod as well so I can get different angles every time there's action.

Having a super hot GF thats down to make porn saves me a lot of money on hookers haha.

 

[jamaicabound]

Anyone who knows law or has worked in the porn industry. Where is the line drawn between porn and prostitution?

Hypothetically couldn't every escort on backpages offer to be a porn actress?

Is it not prostitution because its filmed, or because there's a contract, or because the plan is to have it distributed. Where does the law draw the line?

 

[Papaya]

The porn for women angle is already out there but still lacking, that could be a good niche. I recently introduced my girl to porn from passionhd production company I think they'r called. She cant get enough of it. Its not that soft core storyline crap either. I would say the main differences shes commented on are the guys are actually muscled attractive younger guys and not wierd looking out of shape hairy guys like a lot of porn. Also though its still hard porn its not quite as "degrading" for lakc of a better word in that its not all facefucking amd facials. If you wana try introducing the idea of threesomes tp your girl these videos would be a great way to start down that path.

I realize the porn for women angle is already out there. What I don't believe has been done is the "custom porn to order" business model that I posted. The OP asked for ideas for starting a porn business.

In an an already saturated industry that is already commoditized, rife with piracy, and has a relatively low barrier to entry (porn on all 3 counts) competing based on anything other than a new paradigm / model is going to be pretty difficult.

Immutable law of marketing #1: Be first in the category

Immutable law of marketing #2: If you cant be first in the category..start a new category

 

[Swedreams]

Anyone who knows law or has worked in the porn industry. Where is the line drawn between porn and prostitution?

Hypothetically couldn't every escort on backpages offer to be a porn actress?

Is it not prostitution because its filmed, or because there's a contract, or because the plan is to have it distributed. Where does the law draw the line?

Try pm:ing delicioustacos. He's shot porn.

 

[Rubio93]

Very difficult. Girls in MOST countries have no desire whatsoever to shoot porn no matter how much they get paid, because THEIR FAMILIES WILL DISOWN THEM.

 

[Vitriol]

The bottom line is that the big tubes have tons of content for every niche imaginable, which makes it extremely difficult for any small guy to compete. Got to xvideos.com and search for something. It's already there.

If you're doing this as more of a hobby or something on the side, go for it. If you're expecting a legitimate income from porn, realize it's not 2002 where any idiot could but up some galleries from one of the bigger companies, become an affiliate, and watch the money come in. Browse the gfy forums for awhile and you will hear similar stories to what I'm saying here.

Manwin/Mindgeek controlling everything since their big tubes took off and the effects of Google favoring their tubes have killed the possibility of the little guy hitting it big from porn.

2013 saw more consolidation in the industry, the most notable of which was the merging of RedTube and Manwin—two of the biggest online operators in the industry. The combined company now controls the majority of the porn 'tube' sites, (think Youtube for porn), which stream live content and XXX clips.

Blaming the tube sites
Many in the industry blame the tube sites for the industry's woes, noting they are often filled with pirated content, which is offered to consumers for free. Tube sites pick up ad revenue from page views, but the producers of the films earn nothing.

Manwin also saw a leadership change—as founder Fabian Thylmann, once considered the most powerful man in porn, sold his shares in the company roughly 10 months after his December 2012 arrest in Belgium on charges of tax evasion. "Both myself and Manwin are at a stage where I can no longer add significant value to the best of my ability," he said in a letter to employees.

Manwin soon changed the company name to Mind Geek.

Insiders say they expect more buyouts to happen this year—and more companies to go under.

http://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/porn-industry-feeling-upbeat-about-2014-n9076

 

[jamaicabound]

The bottom line is that the big tubes have tons of content for every niche imaginable, which makes it extremely difficult for any small guy to compete. Got to xvideos.com and search for something. It's already there.

If you're doing this as more of a hobby or something on the side, go for it. If you're expecting a legitimate income from porn, realize it's not 2002 where any idiot could but up some galleries from one of the bigger companies, become an affiliate, and watch the money come in. Browse the gfy forums for awhile and you will hear similar stories to what I'm saying here.

Manwin/Mindgeek controlling everything since their big tubes took off and the effects of Google favoring their tubes have killed the possibility of the little guy hitting it big from porn.

2013 saw more consolidation in the industry, the most notable of which was the merging of RedTube and Manwin—two of the biggest online operators in the industry. The combined company now controls the majority of the porn 'tube' sites, (think Youtube for porn), which stream live content and XXX clips.

Blaming the tube sites
Many in the industry blame the tube sites for the industry's woes, noting they are often filled with pirated content, which is offered to consumers for free. Tube sites pick up ad revenue from page views, but the producers of the films earn nothing.

Manwin also saw a leadership change—as founder Fabian Thylmann, once considered the most powerful man in porn, sold his shares in the company roughly 10 months after his December 2012 arrest in Belgium on charges of tax evasion. "Both myself and Manwin are at a stage where I can no longer add significant value to the best of my ability," he said in a letter to employees.

Manwin soon changed the company name to Mind Geek.

Insiders say they expect more buyouts to happen this year—and more companies to go under.

http://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/porn-industry-feeling-upbeat-about-2014-n9076

You make a good point, go to any site like tubegalore, elephanttube, tubestack, etc and you can find literally any category you could think of.

I think for that reason this custom porn angle could be good. If you want to go the more traditional route you need to find really wierd niches lacking content.

You need to go for a small obscure niche. Sure there will be less people interested in it but at the same time that niche will be lacking content so those interested in that subject will all flock to your videos.

Do a search on ABF or ABF, there's forums and dating sites dedicated to this topic but not really any porn you could probably clean up in that area. You really need to find obscure niches that are lacking content.

The custom porn angle is a great idea. Depending on pricepoint it may be priced a bit higher than the average person is willing to pay. I see ads on cl of people wanting to hire a solo guy or girl or even couple to make a custom porn just for their personal use. These people however are typical not going to want to pay thousands for a full production custom porn but are going to want to pay maybe a couple hundred bucks and use their own digital cam. Maybe the OP could have packages at various price points. If you really wanted to make it a big ticket item you could have cam girls, let guys fall for a cam girl and then offer custom porn productions either that you send them or even in person and some people may pay big money.

 

[germanico]

Very difficult. Girls in MOST countries have no desire whatsoever to shoot porn no matter how much they get paid, because THEIR FAMILIES WILL DISOWN THEM.

Yeah, because women that go into porn have the most healthy loving relationships with their families... :dodgy:

 

[samsamsam]

Very difficult. Girls in MOST countries have no desire whatsoever to shoot porn no matter how much they get paid, because THEIR FAMILIES WILL DISOWN THEM.

Yeah, because women that go into porn have the most healthy loving relationships with their families... :dodgy:

 

[Tresdus]

The porn for women angle is already out there but still lacking, that could be a good niche. I recently introduced my girl to porn from passionhd production company I think they'r called. She cant get enough of it. Its not that soft core storyline crap either. I would say the main differences shes commented on are the guys are actually muscled attractive younger guys and not wierd looking out of shape hairy guys like a lot of porn. Also though its still hard porn its not quite as "degrading" for lakc of a better word in that its not all facefucking amd facials. If you wana try introducing the idea of threesomes tp your girl these videos would be a great way to start down that path.

I realize the porn for women angle is already out there. What I don't believe has been done is the "custom porn to order" business model that I posted. The OP asked for ideas for starting a porn business.

In an an already saturated industry that is already commoditized, rife with piracy, and has a relatively low barrier to entry (porn on all 3 counts) competing based on anything other than a new paradigm / model is going to be pretty difficult.

Immutable law of marketing #1: Be first in the category

Immutable law of marketing #2: If you cant be first in the category..start a new category

Nope. It's already out there. In fact it's insanely profitable.

120$ for a 10min. clip.

And that's just a single women, not even fully naked with 0 costs of herself.

PM if you want some links.

 

[Pilgrim37]

Old Pierre Woodman has a thriving independent site..,around 5000 members paying around €35 a month...that adds up!!!
.but his material has been built up over years and he maintains an awesome work rate.
His niche is new girls and persuading them into porn...first wit himself.
This guy has a LOT of FUN!!!

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