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<blockquote data-quote="Foolsgo1d" data-source="post: 537498" data-attributes="member: 7006">You're missing the real issue here I'm afraid.I hate to hurt your American pride but the police in the US are far from the type of police force which it should be.Regardless of this man being a scumbag and a repeat offender, the police behaving in this manner is a downward spiral. The result of this man being convicted should not have been about following orders, but of using excessive force to the point that a man died for no reason.When you have a dozen police officers restraining a man and he is in severe physical distress, you should have officers there to use their fucking brain and not &quot;orders&quot;. This man did not die from orders given to the police.Why are the police in cases like this so inept? Are they trained to treat civilians as potential enemies in need of submission? This isn't an isolated case either.It should not be a case where a police officer can use excessive force and get away with it because nobody on his &quot;team&quot; did anything. That is a serious question that affects all races in the USA. In the UK a police officer was found not guilty of being the main culprit in the death of a man who was walking away from a police line. He was shoulder-barged to the ground and suffered cardiac arrest.Why was this necessary? No system would convict an officer under these circumstances. To say the system works in this way is just asking for trouble, it is what breeds hatred.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Foolsgo1d, post: 537498, member: 7006"] You're missing the real issue here I'm afraid. I hate to hurt your American pride but the police in the US are far from the type of police force which it should be. Regardless of this man being a scumbag and a repeat offender, the police behaving in this manner is a downward spiral. The result of this man being convicted should not have been about following orders, but of using excessive force to the point that a man died for no reason. When you have a dozen police officers restraining a man and he is in severe physical distress, you should have officers there to use their fucking brain and not "orders". This man did not die from orders given to the police. Why are the police in cases like this so inept? Are they trained to treat civilians as potential enemies in need of submission? This isn't an isolated case either. It should not be a case where a police officer can use excessive force and get away with it because nobody on his "team" did anything. That is a serious question that affects all races in the USA. In the UK a police officer was found not guilty of being the main culprit in the death of a man who was walking away from a police line. He was shoulder-barged to the ground and suffered cardiac arrest. Why was this necessary? No system would convict an officer under these circumstances. To say the system works in this way is just asking for trouble, it is what breeds hatred. [/QUOTE]

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