Stealth wealth

[re busted dudes]

How do you guys present yourselves when it comes to how you dress? Say for example in EE, generally the fashion sense from the local men is somewhat lacking. So even walking around in say, a peacoat, shirt and dress shoes can easily make one stand out and appear to be wealthy in the eyes of many. Is altering your fashion sense to fit the area you are in something you do and if so to what extent?

What's the point of trying to impress people through clothes? If you're trying to attract women through a display of wealth, dressing well may get their attention, but sooner than later you're going to need to back up your image with something more substantial like a car or a nice house. Because nowadays, even in EE, hot women are being chased by local guys who have serious money.

 

[Donfitz007]

How about the exact opposite of this, let’s say somebody gains 500 million dollars. How does that person gain power. I know it’s foolish but I’m thinking Bruce Wayne type of power.

 

[rudebwoy]

How do you guys present yourselves when it comes to how you dress?

Baller
Think 'Hypebeast', brands on display, ostentatious look, ensuring everyone knows my wealth, this is very rare that I dress this way, it's rather disgusting and I'm often uncomfortable wearing it but sometimes the occasion demands it.

Day to Day
Tee, jeans and sneakers or OCBD, chinos and Derbys, both are accessorised by my Rolex DateJust.

During A/W I layer up but it's all tailored so it doesn't hang weirdly, I also tune the clothing colours to that of my colour wheel and what suits my skin tone.

Work
Poplin/Twill white shirt, tailored dress trousers, Church's black Oxfords with silver monogram cufflinks and a black strapped JLC Reverso.

With day to day and work, I don't change that, I don't care if I'm in the poorest of areas, I'll wear it, a lot of it doesn't have logos and if you know, you know but if you don't know, you wouldn't be able to tell the difference as a layman so why bother changing it up? Baller is only worn on particular occasions, I wouldn't rub it in a poor persons face that they're poor, it's not polite.

You have great taste.

Love that watch.

 

[Seadog]

To me it seems that the ostentatious display of wealth for guys, is the equivalent of dressing like a slut for women. You will attract a lot of attention, but in the long run it will be the sort of attention you don't want.

The best quote I ever read was from a book called "Don't tell mom I work on the rigs, she thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse"

https://www.amazon.com/Dont-Tell-Mom-Work-Rigs/dp/1600940250

It's all about the adventures and misadventures of a guy in the international oil industry, can't recommend highly enough. Getting aside, but obviously having money his MO in shithole countries was "To dress and act like nothing more than any other backpacker, but one who's quickly approaching his best before date".

Much the same way some guy will specifically target girls they think to be slutty based on how they dress, in poor (or even regular) countries you can quickly make yourself a mark for people who want something. Look at lottery winners. It may be as simple as someone who wants you to buy them drinks, or as pernicious as kidnapping. There is simply no upside to screaming from the rafters about your money. It's an old hat, but the saying comes to mind "Those who care don't matter, and those who matter don't care" and it's true.

Newlife nails it when he talks about it being a sign of an inferiority complex. Think of the "30k millionaire" we all know, again the male equivalent of a 3 that dresses like a slutty 9 but puts out like a whore. In their heart of hearts they know they don't measure up, so they want to do whatever they can to alleviate that feeling through superficial means.

 

[Deepdiver]

I go old school wise guy on women. I explain to them upfront the Wise Guy rules of marriage for a new or prospective wife. I had clients that were contractors on the Big Dig which cost nearly $20 Billion that flowed through all of the contractors and subcontractors in Boston. One was a concrete finishing company and the other asbestos abatement. Heavily connected guys who knew who is who and what is what.

These guys keep some serious cash in a shoebox or a few boxes as a backup to funds that could be seized by Feds or Law rats with malicious lawsuits and as money accumulates in offshore LLC or IBC accounts. Many visit Vegas or Northeast casinos to keep side wagering accounts with them and to get whale/vip treatment. Best way to hide 10K is five $1K and one $5K Casino chips versus 100 $100 blue benjamins.

Many buy a house for a reliable sister or other relatives who is stable and not on drugs and hides some cash etc., in a waterproof plastic canister that can not be detected deep under a flower garden as digging in gardens does not arouse suspicion.

You can not whack Feds but everyone else who might betray or attack you is fair game - this is cold hard Wiseguy Dread game - the wife is useful as she can not be forced to testify against her husband - John Gotti's wife was famous for saying "All I know is he provides". Period.

Taking vacations to BVI, Bermuda, Bahamas, Belize to handle your offshore LLCs or IBCs while visiting a local Casino is always a good idea. Most guys keep their working capital and collateral in the LLC and Reserves in the IBC - with a side Ride or Die IBC in the wife's name just in case of any catastrophic events.

Most important thing for her to keep in mind is to not red flag herself or you with moving large stacks of cash in and out of local Banks/Credit Unions as that will flag "cash staging" type inquiries from authorities.

Their women are ride or die women, old school wiseguy style meaning One Wife for One Life and a Wiseguy divorce is if she betrays you she knows far in advance that she will go out in a pine box. If you can not manage the women in your life how can you be given authority over men?

This knowledge reinforced with wife Dread game is its own reward plus you can then pass down wealth to help your kids learn to take over the family business.

With a wife and kids and/or long term mistress you can enjoy life but still not take it all with you.

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Holding cash during inflation of the money supply is letting the government steal from you.

Clearly, when you are in an SHTF scenario (Very recently Hurricane Maria in Puerto Rico the entire island is without electricity for weeks), Credit and Debit cards do not work and ATMs are as useless as an Air Conditioner when your home has no roof, no running water, and no electricity... Some Cash hidden in multiple non-magnetic waterproof containers with desiccant is always king in a survival situation - you need enough cash to cover your Food, Shelter, Water, Clothing, Ammunition necessities for you and your loved ones for at least 6 months in this scenario.

Then double that to buy others stuff they are selling off for 5 cents on the dollar - guns/ammo/tools - trucks etc - stuff that will have real value when the electricity comes back on but they had to barter cheaply just to survive because they had no hidden cash on hand.

Read up on IBCs and LLCs - read the Nomad Capitalist web site... the wealthiest guy I know has over $25M in liquid reserves in Offshore British Island IBCs (International Business Corporations) - to sue his IBCs that any phockwad lawyers with their nuisance suits like they do in the USA - the Munts filling suit in these offshore jurisdictions must pay all court and lawyers fees if they lose or the case is thrown out - and they would have to know the IBCs even existed in the first place - he will not even tell me which Banks he uses so I had to buy the Nomad Capitalist's offshore banking guide.

This disincentivizes most nuisance suits (Pissed off former banglers or slips and falls on your property or worse Govt Phishing Expeditions) because these expenses can be significant even for the government and unlike the USA where your bloody accounts can be frozen with a flimsy court order in the IBC countries you have to be notified that such an order was issued so you can transfer funds from one IBC to an unknown Entity in another jurisdiction. There is an actual hearing BEFORE funds can be frozen unless the Gov can prove you are ISIS/Al Qaeda or El Chapo etc.

My acquaintance has three IBCs two attached to active trading accounts and and a reserve IBC he made over $1.6M USD last year in the side accounts and swept the cash in and out of the IBCs to the third stealth IBC - the IBCs are offshore entities that are not subject to US Corporate Taxes (There are annual IBC fees of about 6% but this is far less than US Corporate Federal Taxes which is why the Offshore Jurisdictions are so protective of their IBC owners - 6% on Trillions GBP goes a long way on Island Time Mahn!).

A reason why you rarely see mentally ill homeless drugs addicts in the Islands unlike NYC/LA/SF/Balt/DC etc - they actually have money to keep them in treatment centers or Mental Health hospitals in a civilized manner and any hardcore criminals are transferred to UK Max security institutions off the islands. Which is why the Nomad Capitalist - Andrew Henderson talks up offshore LLCs and IBCs so much in jurisdictions that treat you and your money the best - instead of the USA and EU via OECD https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OECD a.k.a. the Confiscatory Taxation Countries that lately love to transfer your wealth via high taxes to illiterate gimmegrants

He does have a couple US Based accounts that he trades and pays the US Taxes on to placate his CPA and to have substantial profits to live off of in the USA on after-tax paid cash. The profits he earns annually far exceed inflation and his taxes. So now you know the rest of the story... well almost the rest is secret. Success is Secrecy and Secrecy is Success regarding stealth wealth.


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[newlife]

There's a way to not hide what you have, while also hiding it. You simply segregate your social life. You have wealthy friends who you can relax with and be more open about what you're up to and how well you're doing, and you have other friends, people in the majority, that you conceal certain things from. The wealthy ones won't take advantage of you because they've got their own wealth and they'll treat you normally because you're the same level as them, and the regular folks will appreciate you as a normal person too because that's all they'll see.

What you say is quite reasonable. Personally I don't see the need to have more than a handful of good friends and another handful of ok friends, doesn't really matter to me if they are wealthy or not or if they know I am wealthy or not since should are respectable people with integrity. I myself, like hanging out with other self-employed people. Such people have a certain energy and proactivity that I rarely see in the 9-to-5 guys.

 

[newlife]

The best quote I ever read was from a book called "Don't tell mom I work on the rigs, she thinks I'm a piano player in a whorehouse"

https://www.amazon.com/Dont-Tell-Mom-Work-Rigs/dp/1600940250

It's all about the adventures and misadventures of a guy in the international oil industry, can't recommend highly enough. Getting aside, but obviously having money his MO in shithole countries was "To dress and act like nothing more than any other backpacker, but one who's quickly approaching his best before date".

I have "read" book and it is great. Actually I have it on audiobooks and it is actually narrated by Paul Carter himself. (I mostly stopped reading books years ago and go for the audio versions when available. I find it actually easier to absorb especially if read by the author, who knows which key points to emphasize. There will sometimes also be extra added material and updates that are not in the paper book and it is the best thing you can do while on the road instead of listening to music or the fake news.)

One thing I would like to say is that every guy should have at least one quality suit and one nice watch. I have several nice watches that I have acquired over the years but the one I love most is the least expensive one: Nixon 51-30 Chrono

An important note: Even the most expensive Italian suit will lose most of its efficacy if you aren't clean-cut and preferably clean-shaven.

 

[conspirator]

Some private clubs will not allow people to wear clothes with letters on it. Wealth brings envy and resentment. This is why wealthy people should always remain discreet. Exception is showing off wealth through children. Because basically nowadays anyone will be stripped naked if the tax department points their gun to them. Nobody can pass an intense tax audit. Because the tax code is unreadable with sufficient room for any interpretation. Tax dictatorship. In places like Monaco people can flaunt their wealth. Because they don´t pay tax. In other countries wealth is now a sin.

Money buys you quality. And time. Nothing more. Anything besides this is woman talk.

"Dying societies accumulate laws, like dying men accumulate remedies".

 

[newlife]

Exception is showing off wealth through children... Because basically nowadays anyone will be stripped naked if the tax department points their gun to them... Because the tax code is unreadable with sufficient room for any interpretation.

Money buys you quality. And time. Nothing more. Anything besides this is woman talk.

Clearly, you are not well educated, do not understand taxation and obviously have never had money or class.

Money does not necessarily buy quality and definitely time. To be quality-oriented is a state of mind. When was the last tie you saw anyone buy back their past with money or by an extra day of life while on their death bed? Even steve jobs couldn't.

Money is important and there is no such thing as having enough of it because:

Money is the only thing that can protect you from all the uncertainties of life.

 

[conspirator]

^
And you are a woman. Got hurt by "Anything besides this is woman talk."

I can tell your a woman because of your complete absence of logic. And the way you insert completely unrelated personal shit into a discussion.

"When was the last tie you saw anyone buy back their past."

You were a whore who rode the cock carousel. Go to a church and ask god for forgiveness. Follow christ. Afterwards enjoy simple things of life and pray. Stop being an obnoxious drama queen like you´ve revealed yourself in this thread. Because if you continue in this path you will continue being nothing more than a worthless cumdumpster.

"or by an extra day of life while on their death bed?"

Who died recently in your life? Steve Jobs spent millions on his treatment.

No more derailing the thread. Since arguing with a woman or maybe a faggot or trans or whatever the fuck is called this days is pointless.

Back to topic the question about steal wealth is why do you want money/wealth if you have to live like a poor? To look at digits in a computer. Taxes are the price you pay to enjoy your wealth. There are millionaires who will collect clothes from garbage cans. Literally. Check the witch of Wall Street.

 

[newlife]

You might need to go back to second grade to learn English.

 

[conspirator]

Are you wet slut?

 

[Vladimir Poontang]

Why did newlife get banned? If one more person gets inexplicably banned, I'm starting an uprising. And I'll take 1/3 of the members here with me.

 

[Donfitz007]

Seems a new person gets banned every day, with each person getting banned 10-20 new members take his place.

 

[LeBeau]

Newlife added no value and was constantly making useless comments.

Of course It only makes sense that the guy who is constantly subtly trolling or derailing threads (Vlad) would be concerned or think anyone would want to follow him.

 

[Donfitz007]

Can't we all just get along? Too much BS going on in the world to be fighting amongst brothers.

I'm truly happy to just see people actually try to better their lives using this forum. Yes, many people post too much (myself included) but for the most part most guys on here want to better their lives and want to learn or debate with veterans.

The problem is the guys on here are used to the same type of guys over and over and over again and lost their patience. Whereas these new guys feel special and think they're the first of their kind.

 

[Vladimir Poontang]

Of course It only makes sense that the guy who is constantly subtly trolling or derailing threads (Vlad) would be concerned or think anyone would want to follow him.

I'm a fun loving guy and a misunderstood soul. I'm used to it. I'm sorry you feel that way, and I can't say my feelings aren't hurt by your comment, but let's move on. I forgive you.

Stealth wealth. Yay or nay? Personally I think it's always wise to hold something back, and give the impression of being average. It's the best way to be able to assess how people view you. Not so poor that people (especially women) look down on you or think you can't provide, but not so wealthy that you come across as being on a different level to everyone else.

 

[Tail Gunner]

Why did newlife get banned? If one more person gets inexplicably banned, I'm starting an uprising. And I'll take 1/3 of the members here with me.

Why would you be surprised at his getting banned when you specifically warned him about not getting banned (by his own actions) just two days ago?

https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-73950-post-2015015.html?highlight=heart#pid2015015


I actually appreciated many of his posts, but you cannot insult other members like this (especially not as a new member):

Clearly, you are not well educated, do not understand taxation and obviously have never had money or class.

 

[Vladimir Poontang]

Why did newlife get banned? If one more person gets inexplicably banned, I'm starting an uprising. And I'll take 1/3 of the members here with me.

Why would you be surprised at his getting banned when you specifically warned him about not getting banned (by his own actions) just two days ago?

https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-73950-post-2015015.html?highlight=heart#pid2015015


I actually appreciated many of his posts, but you cannot insult other members like this (especially not as a new member):

Clearly, you are not well educated, do not understand taxation and obviously have never had money or class.

True, I did tell him to be careful. But not because I disapproved of anything he said, but because I know what is likely to get someone banned, whether it's fair or not is another matter.

Some of the worst insults I've seen have been from long established members to newbies. Saying that someone has no money or class is tame by comparison.

I don't know, I just got a good feeling about the guy. It's a shame he got kicked out. Maybe it's because I had a shaky start here myself that I can sympathize. Not to mention that someone yesterday said I'm constantly subtly trolling, which is untrue. It's so easy to be misunderstood when conversations are not in person.

Anyway, this is my 1,500th post. It's a good time to be alive.

 

[Deepdiver]

I work with one of the World's Top Global Trading Strategists on an AI/ML Fintech project (my idea) he is my stealth advisor and we did an exercise on the Fibonacci wave retracement and extensions Targets of BTC. Main takeaway - coming up on lifechanging profits potential in the next BTC Bull run with select microcap alts.

I also subscribe to the basic PBRG (Palm Beach Research Group) reports and have shared their latest info, and recent 1.5 hour Webinar takeaways as follows:

Fibonacci rarely lies - BTC down 500 today at 7,900 on track for the .618 Fib retracement to 7,231 B wave technical bottom.

https://www.tradingview.com/chart/B...-with-possible-Fibonacci-retracement-targets/

Then impulsing C wave back up to 17,971 (Beginning next BTC Bull Run likely to extend past 1X of A to 1.618, 2.618 or even 3.618 times the A leg) after the B wave bottoms and turns. The bottom will be a good time to load up on select alts for the PBRG pre-halving (Prior 8 Months) Next bull run which the Fibonacci ABC chart above confirms around March of 2020 for the A=C target 17,971.

The BTC Tides affect all Alts boats.

FYI I sat through the PBRG Palm Beach Research Group 1.5 hour webinar (Sept 18, 2019 9PM EST) and sales pitch for their Palm Beach Confidential Newsletter and am sharing the following takeaway highlights as I had to sit through way too many if you had bought this crypto for pennies you would have made XYZ thousands of percent returns... I receive NO remuneration or referral fees from PBRG which is why I have no links to them here - feel free to Google/Startpage/DuckDuckGo "5 Coins to $5 Million" report.

That said if anyone can finesse or get a copy of 5 Coins to $5 Million report please feel free to PM me in exchange for accurate future Fibonacci technical analytics for key BTC/Alts long/short turning entry/exit points.

We all know how volatile BTC and the Alts are and we are in a Strong B wave correction as I illustrated in the Chart link above.

Following are the PB Confidential (Sales Pitch) takeaways in bullet points...

A. Teeka Tiwari (T2) of PBRG and the PBC newsletter was rated the Number 1 Cryptos analyst on the planet by a group of 130,000 members. Be that as it may... TT claims he is a road warrior and attends all major crypto conferences and speaks directly to the most interesting dev teams with the most promising projects and with the best traction/adoption).

B. We are coming up on the next major BTC Phenomena the BTC Halving on May 24th 2020 - see BTC opensource code line 1578 BTC supply cut in half every 210,000 blocks.

C. PBRG/PBC Backtesting indicates optimal time to enter select Alts to surf in BTC's Bull Run wakes is approx 8 months before each halving (Now).

D. Wall Street effect Bakkt etc... Brian Armstrong Coinbase CEO recent interview stated institutions are quietly loading up on select cryptos to the tune of $200M to $400M per week from institutional investors including the likes of MSFT and Dell et.al.

E. T2 announced their latest research report "5 Coins to $5 Million" 5 select alts that you put $500.00 each into will be worth in the neighborhood of $5 Million USD over the next 10 Months (Halving Bull Run). He offered a 1,000% (10X) returns guarantee that he did twice before and claims did not fail in previous bull run scenarios.

F. The 5-5 report is included for subscribers to the Palm Beach Confidential report price at $5K annually but offered for a "limited" time for two years for $2,500 - of course they offer a 90 Day Trial Rate of $900 if you click away from the full cost offer which includes the 5-5 Report and the PBC newsletter with a new micro alt recc each month).

G. T2 Indicated as a teaser his very top #1 Alt Pick being adopted for projects with Google, Oracle and the SWIFT system is, in fact, Chainlink Ticker Link:

CMC# 18 Chainlink $558,169,138 $1.59 $106,749,100 350,000,000 LINK * -6.03% https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/chainlink/

Note that BTC tech bottom of 7,231 will be a good entry point for "Link" et.al. micro alts.

Finally, T2 claims that asymmetric investments with $500 USD per most promising small-cap alts is the greatest way to new money generational wealth in all asset classes - no more than $1K per as Alts like this are still quite volatile yet when the Bull Run they outperform the 5 major cryptos

Latest PBC email pitch...

Teeka's five coins are NOT the most popular coins:

Bitcoin
Ethereum
Ripple
Bitcoin Cash
Litecoin

As Teeka explains, the opportunity to turn $500 into $5 million does not exist in the largest, most well-known cryptocurrencies on the market.

Teeka's targeting cryptos that are tiny. Right now, not 1 in 1,000 knows they exist.