STEM is not worth it

Salesian

Salesian

 
Banned
Can confirm. Last Saturday night I spent 5 hours programming, working on a game a Battleship in Java, instead of spending $40 to drink vodka and listen to Cardi B in a nightclub full of Axe deodorant and THOTS.

Now I have Asperger's and a neckbeard. I smell like a roast beef sandwich no matter how much I shower. All my pants have cargo pockets, all my tshirts have ketchup stains. All my knuckles have long thin hairs on them like Sasquatch.

I am hideous ! Save yourselves !
 
The Golden God

The Golden God

Robin
Don't take advice from people on the internet about your career choice...

Engineers, doctors, scientists all make good money and work in intellectually stimulating jobs.

I work in STEM, civil engineering specifically.

I don't have to work with any women. There's no HR department. I am actually challenged in my job and I like that.

If you think that STEM majors are a waste of time because they're "boring and too hard"; sorry to break it to you but you most likely couldn't succeed in it anyway.

Who even talks to people about their job anyway?
 
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Sooth

Pelican
Gold Member
I disagree with OP.

I was a straight C student all through my STEM degree. It took me 2 extra years to graduate because I hated school but I could always see a future and the light at the end of the tunnel.

3 years later I'm in meetings with government officials as an expert in my particular field.

It's all about attitude. If you're focused on the negatives as in your post you will never find success in anything you do. All the points you mentioned can be refuted with a positive aspect about what you're complaining about.
 
RatInTheWoods

RatInTheWoods

Hummingbird
Gold Member
I've made millions, slain pussy and travelled the world with Stem career.

I'm no social retard... But you do have a point about lack of extraverted social skills, and zero pussy in the workplace.

Work for max cash for minimum work, and get your pussy after hours, or when you retire mid forties.
 
Kid Twist

Kid Twist

 
Banned
Sooth said:
I disagree with OP.

I was a straight C student all through my STEM degree. It took me 2 extra years to graduate because I hated school but I could always see a future and the light at the end of the tunnel.

3 years later I'm in meetings with government officials as an expert in my particular field.

It's all about attitude. If you're focused on the negatives as in your post you will never find success in anything you do. All the points you mentioned can be refuted with a positive aspect about what you're complaining about.
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This is how medicine is. Eventually you train at a particular specialty, and the rest was exactly what you thought it was --- long drudgery and pain to get credentials in order to do something you can certainly do, but it takes time and patience. The problem in medicine, as an example, is that (I'm unsure how relevant this is in other fields) without excelling earlier here or there, it's harder to get the specialty that you might like, which literally could only be 1 or 2 among the umteen, and those likely suck big time from an interest or lifestyle point of view.
 
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jacknap

 
Banned
RatInTheWoods said:
I've made millions, slain pussy and travelled the world with Stem career.

I'm no social retard... But you do have a point about lack of extraverted social skills, and zero pussy in the workplace.

Work for max cash for minimum work, and get your pussy after hours, or when you retire mid forties.
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the fuck? not get laid in your 20s and 30s and save till your 40s? I know some guys say they still get laid a lot at 40 but I'm not willing to take that bet. Deferred life plan.
 
Thomas More

Thomas More

Crow
Protestant
jacknap said:
RatInTheWoods said:
I've made millions, slain pussy and travelled the world with Stem career.

I'm no social retard... But you do have a point about lack of extraverted social skills, and zero pussy in the workplace.

Work for max cash for minimum work, and get your pussy after hours, or when you retire mid forties.
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the fuck? not get laid in your 20s and 30s and save till your 40s? I know some guys say they still get laid a lot at 40 but I'm not willing to take that bet. Deferred life plan.
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You don't appear to be responding to the post you quoted. Did you mean to quote a different post?
 
RatInTheWoods

RatInTheWoods

Hummingbird
Gold Member
jacknap said:
the fuck? not get laid in your 20s and 30s and save till your 40s? I know some guys say they still get laid a lot at 40 but I'm not willing to take that bet. Deferred life plan.
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Married raising kids, getting laid a lot in 20's and 30's :)
 
Mage

Mage

 
Banned
I think studying STEM is worth it because let's be real - it is the one thing besides medicine you are not going to learn on your own unless you are a genius with IQ over 160.

Everything else - finances, psychology, law, languages, history, arts, music, acting, dancing, painting - you can learn this on your own using books, internet or some courses at any point in your life if your IQ is north of 100. But you will surely not learn advanced math or physics or engineering on your own. You can learn coding trough.

So if you go to study for a degree then(unless you know for sure that you want to do something specific in life and don't need any advice anyway), then study something serious that gives serious degree and also some knowledge you would not get otherwise. If you want life skills then learn on your own - it will be cheaper and more effective.
 
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Soy Jooce

 
Banned
Mage said:
I think studying STEM is worth it because let's be real - it is the one thing besides medicine you are not going to learn on your own unless you are a genius with IQ over 160.

Everything else - finances, psychology, law, languages, history, arts, music, acting, dancing, painting - you can learn this on your own using books, internet or some courses at any point in your life if your IQ is north of 100. But you will surely not learn advanced math or physics or engineering on your own. You can learn coding trough.

So if you go to study for a degree then(unless you know for sure that you want to do something specific in life and don't need any advice anyway), then study something serious that gives serious degree and also some knowledge you would not get otherwise. If you want life skills then learn on your own - it will be cheaper and more effective.
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Agreed...I wish I had completed my STEM degree and did not have to drop out...instead I completed economics.
 
Sherman

Sherman

Ostrich
Orthodox Inquirer
I won't comment on whether you should have a STEM career. If it is what you want you will know.

However, I would like to point out that this is the golden age for learning STEM. When I started college, I had a slide ruler, and the next year got a calculator. The education now is incredible. You can find an answer for any technical question in minutes on the Internet with lucid explanations. Also, you can use Wikipedia to find instantly what any term means. When I was a student, I use to write down all the unknown terms and then at the end of the week go to the library, and lay out a dozen encyclopedias to find the terms. Obviously, the Internet speeds up your education by orders of magnitude.

You can also cheaply buy your own stuff to do your own experimentation. Like in electronics you have the whole Arduino environment. In Chemistry, you can download free software to see molecules in three dimension. There is also a lot of lecture material available. When Coursera was still free, I took several dozen courses, and they were all taught by top instructors in the best universities.

With the resources available today, you should be able to develop much quicker than students just a few decades ago.
 
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Dalaran1991

Ostrich
I studied some of the worst major that people here love to hate on, and I still got a job right at the end of my degree. Pay is lousy, hovering around the average for young professionals, but the current job itself is ok, 9-5 with good colleagues and nice work-life balance.

So the OP's premise makes me laugh so hard. Any of the dude I saw in IT, they all get swarmed with job offers x2 the average salary right out of college. Some of them geeky, some of them are realy lady killers. All of them makes way more than I do with much better career opportunities.

If you want a major with cute - average girls without extra drama, go to business/finance. THe hottest girls are in foreign language classes, dance, arts but they come with huge fucking package.

But STEM is not a bad choice AT ALL, at least not in Europe.
 
loremipsum

loremipsum

Kingfisher
Who gives a shit if it's esoteric? If work is only thing you have to tell people you're boring.

OP sounds like a guy who blames his own shortcomings on the stereotypes of STEM.
I know economists who are incel autists and very intelligent mathematicians who slay pussy. I also know people vice versa.
Blaming it on stem is a cop out.

People don't go to Universities to find girls especially in this era of sexually marketplace. You go there to get a degree.
 
RoadTo100

RoadTo100

Sparrow
Gold Member
For me --- working online and earning 6 figures yearly for the last few years was only made possible by my STEM (computer science) background. Getting to spend months in the 3 holy grail RVF pussy paradises of Latin America, South East Asia, and Eastern Europe. What could be better than that? And it was all enabled by learning programming (mobile app & web development specifically).
 
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tugofpeace

 
Banned
Soy Jooce said:
I have a friend who was an engineer (STEM degree) and now that he is over 30 years old, switched over to sales.
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I have been in STEM for the 7th year running now. Granted it's consulting in the oil/gas industry, but I still hate it and want to move to something more people oriented.
 
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