Stop Eating Seed Oils Challenge

Kentucky Gent

Robin
Catholic
Chicken have not allowed to have antibiotics in them since at least the 90s to my knowledge... It's just a marketing ploy
Exactly. Usually when they print "chickens raised without antibiotics" in normal sized text, you can find a disclaimer written in very very very small text that says "it is against federal regulations to give antibiotics to chickens" or words to that effect.
 

TMarie

Robin
Woman
Catholic
This is sometimes labelled as "grain finished". They feed them grain because a high-grain diet makes cows (and humans) fatter. 100% grass-fed steaks are considerably leaner than grain-fed or grain-finished.
And people consume the meat and fat from the cattle that were fattened with soybeans and corn when they eat their steaks. Grass fed cattle would be much leaner and healthier but it costs more. Feeding them soybeans and grains that were poor quality and not good enough for the regular market is the cheap way to fatten them up.
 

Kentucky Gent

Robin
Catholic
And people consume the meat and fat from the cattle that were fattened with soybeans and corn when they eat their steaks. Grass fed cattle would be much leaner and healthier but it costs more. Feeding them soybeans and grains that were poor quality and not good enough for the regular market is the cheap way to fatten them up.
I'm fairly sure grain-finished beef is not bad for you. From my own experience, and also from the experience of others, such as the Anderson family for example. They are a family that has eaten only steak for years, nothing else.

My understanding is that the grain finishing is only for a few months, while it takes about 2 years to cycle through the lipids in adipose tissue. But I might be mistaken, which is why I trust my experience (and the experience of other carnivores) more.

A great website about carnivore living is zerocarbzen.com
 

Dr Mantis Toboggan

Pelican
Catholic
Gold Member
And people consume the meat and fat from the cattle that were fattened with soybeans and corn when they eat their steaks. Grass fed cattle would be much leaner and healthier but it costs more. Feeding them soybeans and grains that were poor quality and not good enough for the regular market is the cheap way to fatten them up.

Aldi in my area sometimes has grass fed NY strips and ribeyes that seem to be good quality (they're tasty anyway) for $10/lb.
 

christie2

Woodpecker
Non-Christian
Dr. Eric Berg DC youtube channel has a video from 6 months ago entitled " 7 things your face tells you about your blood sugars"
In the video he mentions soy, canola, cottonseed oils all being high in omega 6 just like too much peanut butter and too much nuts. That its better to seek sources of omega 3.

I wonder if he's right.
 

AHaytch

 
Banned
Non-Christian
I suffer from severe bouts of IBS. I saw a registered dietician recently, assuming I would get specialised gut advice, only to be disappointed by her suggestion to use vegetable oils; it was a generic one-size-fits-all approach to tackling my symptoms. I disposed of her services.

I am fortunate that the country of my origin has more freely available natural produce than the West (where I was born and am based), where products like gee and simple organic fats are cheap, and home-cooking made of the purest ingredients is at hand. My grandfather, living on a diet that included gee and goat's/camel's milk, lived till 96. So my plan is to go back to my roots for a few months and restore my gut. The Western lifestyle is truly dysfunctional on all counts, not least gastronomically.
 
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vstk

Robin
Catholic
I personally wouldn't use "the West" as there are huge differences between regions. Some of the best places I have been to when it comes to food have been in Western Europe. For example northern Portugal : plenty of fresh fish and octopus with olive oil, simple boilt vegetables and potatoes is a normal lunch there. In North Western France (Brittany), there is huge resistance to the use of any other fat than traditional salted butter.
On the other hand, normal South American food is basically poison.
 

Roosh

Cardinal
Orthodox
I suffer from severe bouts of IBS. I saw a registered dietician recently, assuming I would get specialised gut advice, only to be disappointed by her suggestion to use vegetable oils; it was a generic one-size-fits-all approach to tackling my symptoms. I disposed of her services.

I am fortunate that the country of my origin has more freely available natural produce than the West (where I was born and am based), where products like gee and simple organic fats are cheap, and home-cooking made of the purest ingredients is at hand. My grandfather, living on a diet that included gee and goat's/camel's milk, lived till 96. So my plan is to go back to my roots for a few months and restore my gut. The Western lifestyle is truly dysfunctional on all counts, not least gastronomically.
Have you tried the elimination diet? You start with a bland diet, stabilize, and then add foods gradually.
 

AHaytch

 
Banned
Non-Christian
I personally wouldn't use "the West" as there are huge differences between regions. Some of the best places I have been to when it comes to food have been in Western Europe. For example northern Portugal : plenty of fresh fish and octopus with olive oil, simple boilt vegetables and potatoes is a normal lunch there. In North Western France (Brittany), there is huge resistance to the use of any other fat than traditional salted butter.
On the other hand, normal South American food is basically poison.
Fair point. I was obtusely referring to the Anglo-American sphere in my catch-all use of 'the West'.
Have you tried the elimination diet? You start with a bland diet, stabilize, and then add foods gradually.

Yes. It did seem to work for a time, but then gradually the stresses of my life at the time reared its ugly head and the microbiome imbalances are back again. It's a very fine balance between food sensitivity and managing the stresses and strains effectively.
 

Brother Thomas 256

Ostrich
Other Christian
Dr. Eric Berg DC youtube channel has a video from 6 months ago entitled " 7 things your face tells you about your blood sugars"
In the video he mentions soy, canola, cottonseed oils all being high in omega 6 just like too much peanut butter and too much nuts. That its better to seek sources of omega 3.

I wonder if he's right.
Fish.
 

christie2

Woodpecker
Non-Christian
Fish is great.
So is pineapple and mango defrosted from the frozen bags available at w*lmart or steamed in a pot to add to food dishes for the extremely valuable digestive enzymes they contain. Seeing you post @The Resilient reminded me to write about pineapple and mango.
Thing is, they're probably both high on The Glycemic Index...a good index to check for food sugars' amounts.
 

TMarie

Robin
Woman
Catholic
Eating bad oils is a bit like smoking cigarettes, many people won't change their ways even if they know it is unhealthy, other people are just unaware of the harm it can cause. Everyone should watch this video.
 

infowarrior1

Crow
Protestant
Another way Americans have been poisoned is those roundup ready crops that were deregulated in the USA:

Basically GMO frankenfoods. But the EU bans them:

If wheat is fine in Europe and poisoned in the USA this is why.
 
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