Strategies for surviving clown world
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On my last remote work project that lasted two months things got a bit heated in the work trailer during our federal election, which unfortunately saw our homo PM Trudeau re-elected. We had one feminist girl who was pro gay sticking up for herself in a room full of dudes calling him a queer and globalist schill. She actually did pretty well and said that the other federal parties were too far left, she is employed in the oil industry after all. We all made our points, mostly agreed to disagree on touchy issues but it never got to a point where HR was involved because everyone knows troublemakers don’t get called for the next gig.
During that job I witnessed guys openly calling each other faggots on a daily basis and two scaffolders were fired for fighting, a 55 year old guy smashed a guy 30 years his junior in the face for talking shit, he probably had a new job within a week.
During that job I witnessed guys openly calling each other faggots on a daily basis and two scaffolders were fired for fighting, a 55 year old guy smashed a guy 30 years his junior in the face for talking shit, he probably had a new job within a week.
I mainly don't worry about it in every day life. I work in a typical office environment where I'm one of the younger workers. Most of these desk jockeys are late boomers or Gen-X.
The thing with these people is that they don't really follow any political or cultural stuff closely, so they don't really care about "clown" stuff either way. They mostly just kind of passively believe the basic-bitch orthodoxies of our society. The last time I had a real argument with some of these people was around the time of the latest gay pride parade shit. I threw it out there that I think it's insane that we're painting pavements in rainbows and generally privileging this tiny group of people. They are somehow under the impression that the "emancipation" of gays is still "unfinished" in this fruity country. I mentioned sexualisation of children including tranny kids in America and such, but then I realised they had legitimately never heard of that kind of stuff.
You gotta realise that most average people are not fully blue-pilled or red-pilled. I work with these 40- or 50-something women who do not see any problems with mass migration, they vote for swamp parties, but they do believe in chemtrails and that flu shots are a conspiracy to kill off the elderly to prevent them from being a drain on resources (if so, it's not working very well). Most people's opinions are all over the place. You won't encounter any true "clown" people every day unless they're real small-souled bugmen types, or if they get sent to make propaganda in your work place specifically.
Another thing is that most normal people with some politically incorrect opinions are also big scaredy cats who talk a big deal, but get scared when anything becomes too real. A while ago we had farmers' protests against leftist environmental norms that risk driving them out of business. They were all for it until some rowdy elements knocked down the door of some city hall. They are all for the Black Pete tradition (a big mess; I'll have to do a write-up about it some day), but when someone actually counter-protests the Antifa loonies who try to ruin our traditions, they think it goes way too far.
For the moment at least, it's best to just go through life normally. At least in my place of work, there is free speech and no pressure to affirmatively support any "diversity" efforts. So I just do my thing and try to work out how to become more independent in case that environment ever changes. I slip in some shivs here and there but I don't give the whole game away. If someone asks me who I voted for I will tell them honestly, but I don't advertise it out loud. I'll happily discuss anything with anyone but I don't need the entire office to know about "that guy" who talks about population replacement and tranny propaganda all day. There's more to life.
The thing with these people is that they don't really follow any political or cultural stuff closely, so they don't really care about "clown" stuff either way. They mostly just kind of passively believe the basic-bitch orthodoxies of our society. The last time I had a real argument with some of these people was around the time of the latest gay pride parade shit. I threw it out there that I think it's insane that we're painting pavements in rainbows and generally privileging this tiny group of people. They are somehow under the impression that the "emancipation" of gays is still "unfinished" in this fruity country. I mentioned sexualisation of children including tranny kids in America and such, but then I realised they had legitimately never heard of that kind of stuff.
You gotta realise that most average people are not fully blue-pilled or red-pilled. I work with these 40- or 50-something women who do not see any problems with mass migration, they vote for swamp parties, but they do believe in chemtrails and that flu shots are a conspiracy to kill off the elderly to prevent them from being a drain on resources (if so, it's not working very well). Most people's opinions are all over the place. You won't encounter any true "clown" people every day unless they're real small-souled bugmen types, or if they get sent to make propaganda in your work place specifically.
Another thing is that most normal people with some politically incorrect opinions are also big scaredy cats who talk a big deal, but get scared when anything becomes too real. A while ago we had farmers' protests against leftist environmental norms that risk driving them out of business. They were all for it until some rowdy elements knocked down the door of some city hall. They are all for the Black Pete tradition (a big mess; I'll have to do a write-up about it some day), but when someone actually counter-protests the Antifa loonies who try to ruin our traditions, they think it goes way too far.
For the moment at least, it's best to just go through life normally. At least in my place of work, there is free speech and no pressure to affirmatively support any "diversity" efforts. So I just do my thing and try to work out how to become more independent in case that environment ever changes. I slip in some shivs here and there but I don't give the whole game away. If someone asks me who I voted for I will tell them honestly, but I don't advertise it out loud. I'll happily discuss anything with anyone but I don't need the entire office to know about "that guy" who talks about population replacement and tranny propaganda all day. There's more to life.
aeroektar
Pelican
I worked in the Marine Industry for years. There's a total lack of faggotry or acceptance of it and people are generally right leaning and very anti politically correct. All the guys I've worked with have been into hunting, fishing, motorcycles, trucks, guns, etc. I met some great friends and did all kinds of fun shit and really learned a lot from some of those guys. Even the owner of the company I worked for was a proud red blooded American who loved Trump and carried a gun, and this is in one of the bluest states in the country.
I've decided there's only two coarses of action for me, and I can do them at the same time. I'll go back into a blue collar field (probably back into the Marine Industry but down south) and eventually purchase some rental property so I have a semi location independent income source. My goal is to never again work or live in places dominated by satanic faggots and freaks.
I've decided there's only two coarses of action for me, and I can do them at the same time. I'll go back into a blue collar field (probably back into the Marine Industry but down south) and eventually purchase some rental property so I have a semi location independent income source. My goal is to never again work or live in places dominated by satanic faggots and freaks.
mkultra22 said:
A) What makes you think that LDN has high speed internet? You can easily post on RVF even with the poorest connection.
B) What makes you think rural areas don't have high speed internet, especially in Australia? I've enjoyed great and reliable internet even in rural Kenya, surrounded by animals and hundreds of kilometers away from any major city.
With all due respect to some of the above posters..
coming on here to tell people that they don't have any problems in their workplace and that it wouldn't be a good idea to be a right wing shitlord at work isn't really saying much to those who (maybe through poor life choices or lack of foresight) find themselves having to navigate through clown-world-affected workplaces..
I recall working on site where we were concreting. Cement truck was parked down the bottom of the hill and we had to race our wheelbarrows up the steep hill through slippery mud to get to where it needed tipping out.
I started chucking up, then dry retching, but fuck it: that was the job.
At one point when I was tipping out my heart was pounding, my eyes rolled up, and my knees went.. almost buckled and tipped a whole load on the foreman who was in a sectioned off trench smoothing things out.
He yelled and swung at me with the edge of his shovel blade.
I managed to adjust and get it in the right hole and he managed to pull the swinging shovel.
Later, over a pint, he was telling everyone... "I swear he was gonna faint, and I WAS gonna take his fucking head off". I quite liked the guy and it was a bonding story between us.
But we're talking about the last bastions of male work and male bonding.
THIS is a CFO who is telling the Aggrieved Employee that it is terrible that he is discriminated against but that he is going to focus on the White Employee.
Then when the All the Employees ask "why don't you be the change you seek Mr CFO and choose based on merit?" (have a suspicion it would be the same choice but never mind) he points at me and goes on about my Unearned-White-Privilege..
Like his decisions are somehow my responsibility and my fault. #ToxicWhiteMale.
Its the fucking gall of these milk white skinned upper-management tossers that gets me.
(Granted at least this CFO admits to being white and doesn't claim Native Indian heritage unlike some of his kind.)
coming on here to tell people that they don't have any problems in their workplace and that it wouldn't be a good idea to be a right wing shitlord at work isn't really saying much to those who (maybe through poor life choices or lack of foresight) find themselves having to navigate through clown-world-affected workplaces..
I recall working on site where we were concreting. Cement truck was parked down the bottom of the hill and we had to race our wheelbarrows up the steep hill through slippery mud to get to where it needed tipping out.
I started chucking up, then dry retching, but fuck it: that was the job.
At one point when I was tipping out my heart was pounding, my eyes rolled up, and my knees went.. almost buckled and tipped a whole load on the foreman who was in a sectioned off trench smoothing things out.
He yelled and swung at me with the edge of his shovel blade.
I managed to adjust and get it in the right hole and he managed to pull the swinging shovel.
Later, over a pint, he was telling everyone... "I swear he was gonna faint, and I WAS gonna take his fucking head off". I quite liked the guy and it was a bonding story between us.
But we're talking about the last bastions of male work and male bonding.
THIS is a CFO who is telling the Aggrieved Employee that it is terrible that he is discriminated against but that he is going to focus on the White Employee.
Then when the All the Employees ask "why don't you be the change you seek Mr CFO and choose based on merit?" (have a suspicion it would be the same choice but never mind) he points at me and goes on about my Unearned-White-Privilege..
Like his decisions are somehow my responsibility and my fault. #ToxicWhiteMale.
Its the fucking gall of these milk white skinned upper-management tossers that gets me.
(Granted at least this CFO admits to being white and doesn't claim Native Indian heritage unlike some of his kind.)
Iconoclast007
Woodpecker
Here I am in the wild Galicia Mountains and wild coast on the north of Spain . I have come here for the winter to escape the furious Baltic winter. I am here for surfing , sailing, spearfishing and bow-hunting wild boar. I am not here to pursue women (If I was , It would be poor hunting ground) . I am a Texas native. I grew up in a land of Cowboys, Fist Fights and Rattlesnakes. I learned how to shoot a rifle, Ride a horse and wrestle steers before I could read. I was fortunate in that I had strong masculine mentors in my life that forged me into the man I am today. I am proud of this. There is no place left in this time for men like me.
As I navigate this world gone mad and having decided that it is a lost cause to remain in the USSA, I now live life as an ex-patriot. I have lived outside of my homeland for over 10 years now. I am a sailor and man of the sea. I have lived on a Sailboat for most of those years. I have also out of necessity developed location independent income. I have a family and 3 children from my time in the Baltics. Estonia is a special place in this world. It is a last bastion of sanity in a world gone mad. Women to some extent are feminine and men still have masculine virtues. That said, the very thing that gives Estonians their resilience to being subjected to this insane , insidious new age philosophy also makes it difficult to integrate as an outsider . They are fiercely tribal. My children are extremely fortunate to be part of that tribe. I am not and will never be an Estonian. I will will always be an outsider.
Experiencing western Europe in my travels to Spain with stops through Amsterdam, Luxembourg , France this year has opened my eyes to that state of affairs. This ideology of feminist empowerment, Hating of masculinity , renouncing the patriarchy, Anti White , Vegan seems to be so ingrained that my very polar opposite energy can be sensed by these folks. I dont even have to open my mouth, people know I am different than them.
I have learned that conversation with them is futile. It is best to not engage with their psychosis.
I think that soon they will be passing laws making it illegal to even think or say things which go against their narrative.
I think we are at the beginning stages of a war that will last many generations.
I maintain that these folks and their psychosis are just pawns in a broader shift to enslave humanity in an open air prison of our own making.
If we are to have any hope , we must maintain connection, communication , cultivation , with other Men that value the masculine virtues of Honor, Strength , Mastery and Courage. We must be good fathers and mentors to young men . We must form brotherhood and associations with other men.
I am here on this forum for these reasons. I dont think this digital space of communication will be online for that much longer given the trajectory of the enemy and their consolidation of power.
I am looking to network with other Masculine men , Particularly expats that are proud of their tribe.
As I navigate this world gone mad and having decided that it is a lost cause to remain in the USSA, I now live life as an ex-patriot. I have lived outside of my homeland for over 10 years now. I am a sailor and man of the sea. I have lived on a Sailboat for most of those years. I have also out of necessity developed location independent income. I have a family and 3 children from my time in the Baltics. Estonia is a special place in this world. It is a last bastion of sanity in a world gone mad. Women to some extent are feminine and men still have masculine virtues. That said, the very thing that gives Estonians their resilience to being subjected to this insane , insidious new age philosophy also makes it difficult to integrate as an outsider . They are fiercely tribal. My children are extremely fortunate to be part of that tribe. I am not and will never be an Estonian. I will will always be an outsider.
Experiencing western Europe in my travels to Spain with stops through Amsterdam, Luxembourg , France this year has opened my eyes to that state of affairs. This ideology of feminist empowerment, Hating of masculinity , renouncing the patriarchy, Anti White , Vegan seems to be so ingrained that my very polar opposite energy can be sensed by these folks. I dont even have to open my mouth, people know I am different than them.
I have learned that conversation with them is futile. It is best to not engage with their psychosis.
I think that soon they will be passing laws making it illegal to even think or say things which go against their narrative.
I think we are at the beginning stages of a war that will last many generations.
I maintain that these folks and their psychosis are just pawns in a broader shift to enslave humanity in an open air prison of our own making.
If we are to have any hope , we must maintain connection, communication , cultivation , with other Men that value the masculine virtues of Honor, Strength , Mastery and Courage. We must be good fathers and mentors to young men . We must form brotherhood and associations with other men.
I am here on this forum for these reasons. I dont think this digital space of communication will be online for that much longer given the trajectory of the enemy and their consolidation of power.
I am looking to network with other Masculine men , Particularly expats that are proud of their tribe.
Alpone
Woodpecker
Exactly right. Some leftists can tell when people aren't on their sinking ship when they don't parrot approved, state-sponsored phrases like "I hate Trump" or "Climate change blaa blaa blaa". Just coming off as a little too masculine or dominant can set their radar off. Or remaining silent when political opinions are being discussed.
A leftist will often prod a person who doesn't appear to ideologically conform to them. I've had this happen. They'll say they heard a heart-warming tale about African refugees or something on NPR, and then lead into "What do you think about that?" I usually say I'm too busy to follow the news.
The left in 2019 have been trained (just like certain religions) to believe that there is no salvation for non-believers. I've had formerly normal, moderate friends who turned radical left cut me out of their lives because of political disagreements which came to a head in the past 2 years. I've heard of family members being estranged from each other because of this situation.
Before nations break up, families and social groups break up. I think this is happening across the west: As the left goes even more radical and state-sponsored marxist ideology permeates news, entertainment and even social media, the left become increasingly intolerant of even moderates. And when I say "The Left", I'm not talking about an abstract concept. I'm talking about people you may have known for years who suddenly think you're Hitler now because you like secure borders.
Civil wars often start with friendships, marriages and families.
The one thing that has been posted here is to not talk about Clown World to anyone and I sure as hell don't mention politics. I just smile and nod and don't argue.
This came up tonight as I was out to dinner with friends who are normies and left-leaning Millennials. We've played poker at a friends' house.
When Trump's Twitter was mentioned, every one just balked and are hoping for him to lose. One proudly pro-choice wife of an acquiescence mentioned how Millennials would turn American into a social democracy. This is someone who regularly complains about conservatives on Facebook and how they ruin the country and people who are pro-life hate women. She cannot bring herself to see that she lives in a dominant blue state (NY), the cities are one party rule and refuses to see flaws in the Democrats or their policies hurting people like what's going on in California. Her husband works in the city and is a union trucker. They have no kids, but are a cat couple. This woman and tattooed and her husband is fat too and reeks of beta behavior when talking about a collection of TMNT toys from the 80's.
At first, I wanted to have a decent conversation, but realized their mind politically is still stuck in the 2000's when I look at their Facebook.
One guy who hung out with at poker eventually left because he got tired of Trump bashing and him and the first woman got into arguments constantly.
Sometimes I think people who are extremely partisan refuse to see the flaws in their party or ideology because they've been brainwashed constantly. It's like the Left can do no Wrong and the Right can't do anything right in their mind.
It's hard to hear the BS, but now just let it go one ear and out the other.
This came up tonight as I was out to dinner with friends who are normies and left-leaning Millennials. We've played poker at a friends' house.
When Trump's Twitter was mentioned, every one just balked and are hoping for him to lose. One proudly pro-choice wife of an acquiescence mentioned how Millennials would turn American into a social democracy. This is someone who regularly complains about conservatives on Facebook and how they ruin the country and people who are pro-life hate women. She cannot bring herself to see that she lives in a dominant blue state (NY), the cities are one party rule and refuses to see flaws in the Democrats or their policies hurting people like what's going on in California. Her husband works in the city and is a union trucker. They have no kids, but are a cat couple. This woman and tattooed and her husband is fat too and reeks of beta behavior when talking about a collection of TMNT toys from the 80's.
At first, I wanted to have a decent conversation, but realized their mind politically is still stuck in the 2000's when I look at their Facebook.
One guy who hung out with at poker eventually left because he got tired of Trump bashing and him and the first woman got into arguments constantly.
Sometimes I think people who are extremely partisan refuse to see the flaws in their party or ideology because they've been brainwashed constantly. It's like the Left can do no Wrong and the Right can't do anything right in their mind.
It's hard to hear the BS, but now just let it go one ear and out the other.
FWIW the Right is not exactly very self aware either but I think it's fair the say that the Left is far deeper into cloud cuckoo land than the Right at the moment.
Leonard D Neubache said:
Correct, the American Left has gone crazy. They didn't have a Plan B if they lost in 2016 and just assumed the victories of 2008 and 2012 would just carry into the next few decades. Analysts like James Carville and Dylan Loewe wrote books about this and I heard a lot of it especially on some forums. They got drunk on recency bias.
The Right in America is dealing with Trump, an outsider. Maybe they took a hint that purging people out who have ideas but don't agree with them 100% was a bad idea. As much conservatives sometimes have hate boners for moderates, moderate were usually the ones with the brains and ideas from what I read in history books.
Great thread. Many of the posters were far ahead of the current in their analyses. Goes to show that many on RVF have a decent finger on the pulse of societal and cultural changes