Study: Hand dryers suck in fecal bacteria and blow it all over your hands

[Laner]

I doubt there is a solid shit being shat from the Rio Grande to Patagonia.

If a whole continent has diarrhea, does this make their immune systems superior?

 

[debeguiled]

Sanitation issues in bathrooms bring out every neuroses known to man.

 

[Papaya]

I had to buy hand dryers for work.

First off, try to purchase some in your city. It's like buying a Kirby vacuum, or some Amway shit. The local rep will upsell and try to get you into service plans and warranties and nonsense.

Second, they all badmouth the Dyson Airblade, which costs roughly $800. They will tell you those things are the worst virus spreaders in the business. I googled it, and there's fact to back that up.

We got ones called xcelerator which were about $400 each. The bacteria/virus argument with those guys was that the shit blows straight down versus right into your face like the Dyson, or back onto your body like the Toto dryers (which were really expensive) did.

Thats a summary of my hand dryer knowledge.

Aloha!

"Toto" in Cuban slang is what little girls are taught to call their fazooty. Its the equivalent of the cutsie names Americans teach little girls to call it: twinkle, vee-vee, tootie, kitten, birdie, hoo-hoo, popo, puff, and front bottom etc.

So to Cubans a "Toto" dryer is a pussy dryer

There's some more dryer knowledge for ya

 

[Duke Castile]

Don’t worry guys, this is probably actually very healthy for your microbiome.

Fecal matter is rich with probiotics that contribute to almost every function your body makes.

 

[ElFlaco]

Besides if you want to avoid a large chunk of this, only wash your hands in a public restroom if you take a shit. I usually avoid taking a dump in public restrooms anyway. If all you touch is your wang and zipper there's a pretty low risk.

That's basically what I do.

I know that the point of washing your hands is to protect others, but I figure I'm personally safer not touching the faucet and/or soap dispenser (when they're not motion-activated) at all. Sometimes a with-the-back-of-the-hand maneuver is possible, depending on the specific mechanism.

Sadly, you can't enter/exit most restrooms without touching the door. That trick with a paper towel only works if they have them.

And then there's the question of how to avoid touching the toilet seat. A lot of single-use restrooms for men don't have urinals.

Where I am, there are often signs telling you to wash your hands BEFORE you use the bathroom. Have never figured out the logic to that.

I hate every second I spend in any bathroom except mine.

 

[rainy]

I delivered pizza when I was 18 as a part time job (underrated job to be honest) and the Hispanic cooks would use gloves when cooking and handling food. They also wouldn't take the gloves off when using the bathroom.

They'd put on a pair when starting their shift and that same pair would remain until the end, after multiple trips to the bathroom. One time I asked one of them after walking out of the stall after taking a shit with the gloves still on, why don't you change your gloves and/or wash your hands. He was confused by the question. Said he wears gloves so no need to change them or wash hands.

I found it odd they didn't understand the purpose of gloves.

 

[MikeS]

I delivered pizza when I was 18 as a part time job (underrated job to be honest) and the Hispanic cooks would use gloves when cooking and handling food. They also wouldn't take the gloves off when using the bathroom.

They'd put on a pair when starting their shift and that same pair would remain until the end, after multiple trips to the bathroom. One time I asked one of them after walking out of the stall after taking a shit with the gloves still on, why don't you change your gloves and/or wash your hands. He was confused by the question. Said he wears gloves so no need to change them or wash hands.

I found it odd they didn't understand the purpose of gloves.

So apparently a complete lack of reasoning skills doesn't preclude someone from becoming a professional cook.

 

[Jetset]

This whole thing is ridiculous. Just wash your hands after you use the dryer.

 

[CynicalContrarian]

Can't say I use air hand dryers either.

It's separate paper towels or go fuck ya' mother.

Not that I actively touch any surface in or near a public bathroom without a tissue or paper towel anyway.
Plus wouldn't you know it? I haven't had a serious illness / flu since 1995.

 

[Kona]

Sanitation issues in bathrooms bring out every neuroses known to man.

You could be like debguiled and just get one of these guys in your bathroom:

You gotta worry about the dudes bacteria/viruses, but he gives you a pack of Pall Malls.

Aloha!

 

[SteezeySteve]

The pall malls will kill the bacteria you breathed in while in the restroom.

Ask him for a quick with once over with the lighter to take care of your hands.

Problem solved.

The new texture on your hands will prevent your hands from slipping off your pullup bar.

 

[debeguiled]

Sanitation issues in bathrooms bring out every neuroses known to man.

You could be like debguiled and just get one of these guys in your bathroom:

You gotta worry about the dudes bacteria/viruses, but he gives you a pack of Pall Malls.

Aloha!

This could never happen in Oregon, but of course you don't know that owing to your hetero-samoan polynesian-privilege.

There are almost no black people in Oregon. Some Mexicans, but they all pretend they are from Central America for activist cred. There is one Hawaiian guy, and I know him. He pretends to be a Mexican or filipino depending on what college girl he is talking to.

Black people are highly prized members of society in Oregon and they would never he asked to do a job like this ever. Cute SJW girls use black men as accessories to prove that they are down.

They laugh extra hard at jokes by these guys, and get in arguments over racism around these guys with other white people, stealing glances over to see who is getting the most approval. They make weird, bumper sticker like announcements in earshot of these guys to signal their wakefulness: "Hate isn't welcome here!"

This is the hobby of all the righteous white people in Oregon, to make black dudes uncomfortable by spreading the awkward.

If you want to make a white girl uncomfortable start talking about Bill Cosby. She gets cognitive dissonance when her two favorite groups are in conflict. Don't make her say it, but in this case, not down with the Cos.

Second on the list is Mexican pretending to be from Central America, and the college girls like to slip it into their conversations like, oh him? That's just Jaaaiiiimmeeee, from Honduras. A friend.

I really hate being associated with a forum that would have a member who would post something like this. I am afraid my body language will give away the fact that I have been exposed to such hate.

On the other hand, there are so few Hawaiians here, I don't know what the party line is, and it might be forbidden to criticize you.

Maybe I will just spend the rest of the day nodding with approval at inter-racial couples.

 

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Paul Malls...or an 8 ball

 

[Mage]

I knew about the unsanitary effects of hand dryers for quite some time and don't use them for quite many years already. I use paper towels or just let my hands dry themselves - it happens in one-two minutes or so.

Of course it's not a big deal and as mentioned above - if your immune system is decent and you lead a healthy lifestyle you shouldn't get paranoid over this - still big things consist of small ones, so this is one small thing I also do for my health among others.

 

[Johnnyvee]

This study is probably sponsored by the paper industry, but it does sound plausible:

We know fecal bacteria shoots into the air when a lidless toilet flushes — a phenomenon known, grossly, as a "toilet plume." But in bathrooms where such plumes gush regularly, where does all that fecal bacteria go?

Into a hand dryer and onto your clean hands, perhaps. That's what a new study suggests. Researchers examined plates exposed to just 30 seconds of a hand dryer compared to those left in, you know, just plain feces-filled air.

The findings: Air-blasted plates carried 18-60 colonies of bacteria on average, whereas two minutes' exposure to the mere bathroom air left fewer than one colony on average. What's more, the inside of the dryer nozzles themselves had "minimal bacterial levels." The results were published recently in the journal Applied and Environmental Microbiology.

For the study, a Connecticut-based team looked at 36 bathrooms at facility of the University of Connecticut School of Medicine, Newsweek notes, where one lab produces large amounts of spores of PS533, a specific but harmless strain of bacteria Bacillus subtilis. Colonies of that strain made up about 2-5% of the bacteria found on the air-blasted plates, regardless of how far the specific bathroom was from the lab where such spores were made.

"These results indicate that many kinds of bacteria, including potential pathogens and spores, can be deposited on hands exposed to bathroom hand dryers, and that spores could be dispersed throughout buildings and deposited on hands by hand dryers," the authors said.

What's unclear, they admit, is just why the air-blasted plates showed so many more spores. Dryers could act as "reservoir" for bacteria, they suggested, or perhaps their intense blowing simply provides more exposure to the already contaminated air. And while evidence shows dryers can cover hands in bacteria, they said, it's not certain whether they deposit bacterial spores.

Regardless, as Newsweek reported, study author Peter Setlow perfers paper towels, which are now stocked at all 36 bathrooms used in the study.

"Bacteria in bathrooms will come from feces, which can be aerosolized a bit when toilets, especially lidless toilets, are flushed," Setlow told Newsweek.

What this study doesn't address is if the bacteria is disease causing. If you can't get sick from it then it's harmless like most bacteria that call your body home.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news...em-all-over-your-hands-study-finds/511723002/

Whether bacteria or viruses cause disease has more to do with an individual`s immune function, rather than the type of pathogen. In general this is true at least, but of course with some exceptions. Also pathogenic load factors into it. (I.e. the number of pathogens of a particular sort, and how many different types and strands you have in your body in total.)

So whether you get sick or not is a question of how well your immune system functions, which again is dependent on things like diet and lifestyle factors, and how many pathogens you are exposed too from all sources. The fewer the better in other words. This is why it`s not a good idea to take as many vaccines as possible, but stick to the basic one`s. The more pathogens you carry the faster your immune system will age via cell differentiation and telomere shortening. Some pathogens are much more immune dominant than other`s though, independent of whether they actually cause clinical disease.

This is true. Herpes, Lyme disease, even HIV don't seem to be a problem for some of the people exposed to them.

Yes I agree, but as the good doctor mentioned, some pathogen`s will force the leucocytes to divide like crazy even though they don`t cause disease. This in turn ages the immune system, which eventually will get you in trouble, unless you find a way of lengthening the telomeres. https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-67103.html

HIV is a bit different though, as it`s a non cytocidal retrovirus. It just forces the immune cells to divide faster, probably because of an advantageous mutation that occurred at one stage. It`s basically benign like all other known retroviruses, but this mutation will also lead to short telomeres in white blood cells, although through a different mechanism than all other viruses. That`s why disease will usually manifest itself after some delay with HIV infection, depending on a lot of factors. I`m not totally convinced about this standard HIV/AIDS theory yet though, but there are tons of studies showing short telomeres in AIDS patients."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5691640/
"The concept that enduring antigen stimulation leads to T-cell exhaustion that favors telomere attrition and a cell fate marked by enhanced T-cell senescence appears to be a common endpoint to chronic viral infections."

But then again, it could be just a host of other viruses as the study above mentions also, coupled with lifestyle factors like drugs etc. That was the lifestyle of the original AIDS patients in the gay community after all.
Bottom line. Contract as few pathogens as possible, (without going totally OCD about it) and have a diet/lifestyle that doesn`t supress the immune system and age you faster than necessary.

 

[Mage]

I delivered pizza when I was 18 as a part time job (underrated job to be honest) and the Hispanic cooks would use gloves when cooking and handling food. They also wouldn't take the gloves off when using the bathroom.

They'd put on a pair when starting their shift and that same pair would remain until the end, after multiple trips to the bathroom. One time I asked one of them after walking out of the stall after taking a shit with the gloves still on, why don't you change your gloves and/or wash your hands. He was confused by the question. Said he wears gloves so no need to change them or wash hands.

I found it odd they didn't understand the purpose of gloves.

This is one reason why I don't eat at places run by people from races with average IQ lower then 100. No kebab!

 

[Veloce]

That's why every toilet should have a toilet seat bidet. Then there's no hand poop interaction. I schedule my dumps to ensure I'm at home and can use it.

Cosign this.

Installing a bidet at home was one of the biggest quality of life improvements I've made in recent years, and it cost $40 to do.

I'll only take a dump elsewhere if I REALLY have to go. Using toilet paper feels downright barbaric at this point.

 

[Veloce]

I delivered pizza when I was 18 as a part time job (underrated job to be honest) and the Hispanic cooks would use gloves when cooking and handling food. They also wouldn't take the gloves off when using the bathroom.

They'd put on a pair when starting their shift and that same pair would remain until the end, after multiple trips to the bathroom. One time I asked one of them after walking out of the stall after taking a shit with the gloves still on, why don't you change your gloves and/or wash your hands. He was confused by the question. Said he wears gloves so no need to change them or wash hands.

I found it odd they didn't understand the purpose of gloves.

This is a common issue in restaurants. Many cooks use gloves as if they're magic sanitary devices, using a single pair in an 8 hour shift.

Health inspectors look out for this type of thing and are very aware of cross contamination due to gloves. In my own kitchen, cooks change gloves many times per hour. I have a kitchen budget for disposables like gloves and I go well over budget for this reason and it's absolutely justified.

Another thing that drives me insane is cooks wearing aprons to the bathroom. It's disgusting. My crew doesn't do it but our restaurant is in a large casino with many other food outlets. On a frequent basis, I see cooks from the casino buffet going to the bathroom with their aprons still on, presumably pulling the apron aside to pull their dick out and take a leak.

If you come to Vegas, you should probably avoid those big casino buffets. Even the nice ones. (That said, I splurge on the Sterling Brunch buffet once every few months just because it's bottomless Perrier Jouet and caviar)

This is one reason why I don't eat at places run by people from races with average IQ lower then 100. No kebab!

Restaurants run by high IQ individuals still employ plenty of dumbfucks. I wish that wasn't the case but there's only so much you can do. You train and instruct and micro-manage to the best of your ability and you just hope for the best.

Really, if you want to ensure the quality of what you eat, you must cook at home. There's very few other options. I'd say generally speaking higher end restaurants and certain large corporate restaurants are fairly stringent when it comes to food quality and sanitation, but there are many exceptions to this generalization.

 

[CaptainS]

Couldn't get the timestamp to work but scrub to 6:33.

 

[WalterBlack]

Sanitation issues in bathrooms bring out every neuroses known to man.

You could be like debguiled and just get one of these guys in your bathroom:

You gotta worry about the dudes bacteria/viruses, but he gives you a pack of Pall Malls.

Aloha!

I simultaneously despise and pity those guys. They're only making a living and have to smell piss and shit all day, but they're super aggressive.