Studying Mandarin (Chinese) language

Grigori

 
Banned
Other Christian
I have recently been interested in studying the Chinese language, because I think that it is the language of the future. Regardless of whether you share that viewpoint or not, it would be very helpful indeed. I think that for non Chinese, learning Mandarin language and Simplified Chinese script would be most practical.

This thread is for all learners of the Chinese language to share tips, suggestions, materials, etc.

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As for my studies, yellowbridge.com is an excellent dictionary.

I see a tutor every week who uses material from linguist John DeFrancis. Mostly from the book 'Beginning Chinese.'

Katrina Liu has some children's books available on Amazon that include Mandarin, Pinyin and English. There is free audio of those on YouTube.

Rita Mandarin Chinese has a couple interesting YouTube videos. I've seen her talk about stuff my teacher talks about.

Lastly, I play a lot Duolingo. I'm about 1/3 or almost halfway through their "Chinese" course right now.
 

Horus

Pelican
Catholic
Gold Member
I have recently been interested in studying the Chinese language, because I think that it is the language of the future. Regardless of whether you share that viewpoint or not, it would be very helpful indeed. I think that for non Chinese, learning Mandarin language and Simplified Chinese script would be most practical.

This thread is for all learners of the Chinese language to share tips, suggestions, materials, etc.
I speak and read Chinese at a lower advanced level.

If you're serious about learning Chinese to a high level, it's worth investing time at the beginning to work on tones and pronunciation. Get a teacher and drill it so you can easily distinguish and produce the correct tones. It will be boring and frustrating, but it will pay off. When you first start, you will be able to distinguish the tones of individual words, but in the context of a sentence it is much more difficult. If you can't get the tones right, you will be understood when using basic Chinese, but as you get more advanced your toneless Chinese will be difficult to understand and just sound silly. A good example of this is Serpentza, the YouTube guy. He has a very decent grasp of the Chinese language, but his tones and pronunciation are horrendous, and it's difficult to understand him when he speaks.

If it's possible (probably not unless you have a teacher from Taiwan), learn the Zhuyin fuhao phonetic system, rather than pinyin. If you use pinyin with Roman letters, you will read them as you do in English and make small pronunciation errors. If you take the time to learn zhuyin, you will internalise more correct pronunciation.

Decide whether you want to learn traditional or simplified Chinese. Simplified is easier and more practical since it is used in mainland China, Singapore and Malaysia. Traditional characters are only used in Taiwan and Hong Kong. I believe simplified characters are ugly and a travesty - traditional Chinese characters are beautiful, full of meaning, and one of mankind's greatest achievements.

Spend some time carefully choosing a text book and stick to it. Get a teacher, preferably twice a week if you can afford it. Group classes are usually a waste of time. Avoid female teachers, even though they are more common.

Lastly, if you're really serious, you'll have to immerse yourself by living in a Chinese speaking country, either China or Taiwan. There are very few people who reach proficient levels of Chinese without immersing themselves, unlike European languages.

Deciding to learn Chinese is no small undertaking. You'll need to learn 2500-3000 characters to understand 90% of a newspaper, but that wouldn't mean you're even close to literacy as an educated Chinese person can read around 8000 characters. Make sure you have a good reason and motivation for learning Chinese. After that, good luck. It's a journey.
 

Grigori

 
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Other Christian
Just curious what both your motivations were/are for learning Chinese?
Based on my analysis of current events, I believe that China will become the #1 superpower starting from the 2030s, if not sooner. Therefore, knowing Mandarin language and Simplified Chinese script would be very useful for career/business purposes. But there is another reason why I want to learn Chinese. It is because I am a Sinophile. Several people on this forum have written that Western European civilization is the greatest civilization of all time. But I'm sorry, that title belongs to the East Asian civilization. I am in love with their culture and architecture. I want to learn more about it by understanding the language. I want to read the Tao Te Ching in the original. If I would know Chinese, then the doors of literacy would be opened to me. I mean that I would be able to read the Chinese websites, news sites, TCM sites, philosophy sites, Chinese conspiracy theories and alternative viewpoints, be able to watch Chinese movies and listen to Chinese songs. I know both English and Russian, but that's still only a portion of the internet content that's available. I know that learning another language enables you to expand your viewpoint. Many people here who don't know the Russian language, and only relying on English language news and information, have a somewhat distorted view of the world. There is a whole iceberg of conspiracy theories and alternative viewpoints lying around in the Russian language internet, information which isn't even discussed in the English language internet at all.
 

SpyofMoses

Robin
Protestant
Based on my analysis of current events, I believe that China will become the #1 superpower starting from the 2030s, if not sooner. Therefore, knowing Mandarin language and Simplified Chinese script would be very useful for career/business purposes. But there is another reason why
I am in love with their culture and architecture. I want to learn more about it by understanding the language. I want to read the Tao Te Ching in the original.
I have about the same motivation myself. One of the people I first heard about that book from was a guy from Vietnam. He was my employee at the time, and easily one of the smartest people I ever met. I know English translations exist, but there is always something lost in translation.

Furthermore, I had a house fire a couple years ago. Noone got hurt, but we did lose all our stuff. To pass the time while rebuilding, I began to play Duolingo like crazy. It was hard not to fall in love with the language.

What's kinda funny is I can tell who's in touch with current events and who's not by their reaction. Some people are stunned and make that looks that says "what could possibly pique your interest in that?" While others just go "you know, that'll probably be the business language of the world here soon enough."
 

God's lonely asperger

Woodpecker
Protestant
This article has some useful books for learning Chinese.
 
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