Suit Game Summer 2013

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Laner said:
F*ck me this is sick.
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This does look awesome. I think I'm gonna go cop a shirt like that today and rock it with the jacket I have that's pretty close to the same color. I was trying to think of what kind of slacks to wear with it. I'm thinking a cream color would go well. Either that or a pair of slacks the same color as the jacket.
 

thegmanifesto

Peacock
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I have always loved when dorks on here say wearing suits is "trying too hard".

Wait, isn't working out, "trying too hard"?

Isn't making money "trying too hard"?

Isn't improving in sports "trying too hard"?

Isn't traveling to other countries "trying too hard"?

Isn't brushing your teeth "trying too hard"?

Yeah, motherf*cker, I am "trying too hard".

I am trying hard to be the best I can be.
 

DVY

Ostrich
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What colors/patterns do you guys like for the linings in suits? I saw some cool suits the other days w/crazy paisley patterns for lining inside pockets and on the inside of jackets.

Thoughts? Suggestions?


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thegmanifesto said:
I have always loved when dorks on here say wearing suits is "trying too hard".

Wait, isn't working out, "trying too hard"?

Isn't making money "trying too hard"?

Isn't improving in sports "trying too hard"?

Isn't traveling to other countries "trying too hard"?

Isn't brushing your teeth "trying too hard"?

Yeah, motherf*cker, I am "trying too hard".

I am trying hard to be the best I can be.

That's pretty much the same thing I was thinking. I thought a big theme of this forum was being the best man you can be. I'd much rather try too hard than not try hard enough.
 

Laner

Crow
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DVY said:
What colors/patterns do you guys like for the linings in suits? I saw some cool suits the other days w/crazy paisley patterns for lining inside pockets and on the inside of jackets.

Thoughts? Suggestions?


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That is all up to you. The only time another person will see the lining or collar felt is when the jacket comes off and hits the floor or when you reach into the inside pocket.

So go bold. Etro linings are dope. Ted Baker is much cheaper and does good linings. If you order custom from a place like Indochino then you can choose.
 
Summer time I really like to bring out the bold colors. I'm quite fond of red pants.

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Blue blazer and white pants has this great crisp look
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I'm torn on the tie but I like the rest
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The vest is a bit overkill in the summertime because of how hot it would be for me but the rest is dope.
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Prosal

 
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InternationPlayboy said:
There's usually a difference between wearing business suits and wearing a fly suit out of GQ. Most business men dress like shit. How many business men do you see dressed like the men on this thread? I don't see many and when I do I think, "Damn, that cat has style, game recognized."

Here in the civilized world, there is no difference between "business suits" and "suits". Here, 99% of the people who wear suits because of their job dress as "the men on this thread" as you say, i.e trendy suits. Quality vary of course and depends of the financial means, from 300 € for total shit - fushed suits - to 3 000€ for Brioni masterpieces. Talking about quality, I'm rather surprised that noone talks about it in this thread, as if the simple fact to wear a suit was enough to be " sharp dressed". FYI, most pret-à-porter brands (Boss, Kenzo, Ralph Lauren, Armani, Paul Smith and many many others) make half-fused suits that are in fact of poor construction and of poor quality. A quality suit is necessarily canvassed (Pal Zileri, Zegna, Brioni, Canali, Corneliani, Kiton, ect come to mind), and sorry, you are not "sharp dressed" with a fused or half-fused suit, but only a try-hard faker.

InternationPlayboy said:
The pictures you posted may look good for old man style, but who wants to look like an old man?

Hmm. Since when a fit cardigan is an "old man style"? ...Cortigiani is pure Italian trendy chic and highest quality material and construction. Indeed, it seems that there is an abyssal fossa between the two sides of the Atlantic ocean when it comes to fashion. Anyway, to each its own, and I hope for you that when you will be "an old man", you'll have the financial means and the taste for such things.

InternationPlayboy said:
If you don't like dressing nice, that's all good, but no reason to bash on guys who like to take care of the way they look

As you challenge me, let me answer you that even for dressing casual I solely buy the best quality. You can dress nice without wearing a suit. I feel very elegant with a simple 500 € Cortigiani black turtleneck pullover, stylish italian jeans, and 700 € Westons. And as we talk about accessories, I am curious to know what all the "sharp dressed men" wear as shoes, watches, ect. I was laughing when I read on another thread that someone bragged about the "Prada loafers" that he just bought ..... Prada is a brand that, for its shoes, sells licences to anyone, with as a result average quality with fabrication in China (usually only the montage is made in Italy, so they can stamp "made in Italy"). For the shoes, most brands sell their licence by the way, with as a consequence low or average quality products .... I personally wouldn't feel "sharp dressed" with this kind of stuff. I wear ONLY shoes from recognized manufactures using traditional shoemaking techniques (like Weston). Same for the watch. A "sharp dressed man" needs a accordingly fancy watch, don't you think so? ...you can't pretend to dress sharp if you wear a 300 $ shit at your wrist, or if you do, you are just a try-hard faker. I might not dress in suits out of my work, but I wear a 7000 € mid-level watch (IWC Ingenieur Mission Earth) and plan to buy soon the new 18 000 € Bulgari Octo Quadri-Retro Chronograph. I also wear high-end optical glasses like Dita or Barton Perreira (600-700 € glasses). I have spoken for myself here, but I'm sure that many guys here ARE refined and elegant WITHOUT wearing suits. So please don't say that someone "doesn't care of the way he looks" or (well you didn't say that, but some did) that he is "insecured" (which is one of the most stupid I have ever heard) just because he doesn't wear fucking suits outside of his professional life. FYI, I wear suits since I began working for CB Richard Ellis at 21yo, and I'm now 46yo, still in the high-level real estate investments business, and do wear suits 45 weeks/year (well in fact more 35 weeks/year now that I run my own company and can afford long vacations) ..but wearing a suit to go to a club or a bar, or for a date ? ...it's simply ludicrous.
 

worldwidetraveler

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Prosal, maybe you should start a thread on more casual wear. I would be interested in seeing some more ideas what you consider casual elegant.

That way we can keep this thread on topic.
 

Prosal

 
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Kieran said:
I've also experimented with having blazers custom made in BKK. I'm only aware of two tailors in BKK that offer floating canvas (Narin Couture, and July Tailor). I tried using Narin Couture. The jacket came out fairly well, but came to around £700 due to my choice of fabric and request for floating canvas (and a few other details), so I might as well pay the £1250 for Saint Laurent and have some minor adjustments made, because the styling and fabrics are so much more interesting.

Narin is a great choice. He makes fully canvassed suits/blazers, and is with Rajawongse the only one in Bangkok from what I know (I have never heard of July Tailor, but thanks for the info). It's true that most Bangkok tailors don't, which is a killer for me. He made two suits (with his own Zegna textiles) for me a few years back, exactly in the style/cut I asked for. If you bring your own textile, price for a suit is around 300 €. If you choose his own highest quality italian imported textiles like Zegna or Corneliani, price can, as you said, go up to 700 or 800 € for a blazer and 1000 € for a suit. With mid-range british textiles, it costs around for a suit 500-600€. The job takes two to three weeks and requires three try-on.

He also makes quality shirts, from 50 € for the cheapest and up to 140 € for the highest quality cottons.
 

Kieran

Pelican
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July Tailor is apparently the tailor to members of the royal family, but I heard better reviews for Narin so I decided to go there. I also had shirts which I agree are excellent. I can't really wear off the rack shirts at all as even slim fits are huge in the waist and back for me, so I plan to have many more made in various styles when I return.
 

augen sehen

Kingfisher

I'm sorry but this guy doesn't look well-dressed or masculine at all.

Nick Wooster is a far better example of an old guy who dresses with style, and while most of his photos are of him in a suit (yes, including one with shorts and a blazer on), he does dress more casually from time to time.



I also find it slightly offputting that every post by you has the € signs everywhere. I thought Americans were supposed to be the materialistic ones obsessed with the $?
 

Prosal

 
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augen sehen said:
I also find it slightly offputting that every post by you has the € signs everywhere. I thought Americans were supposed to be the materialistic ones obsessed with the $?

Fair enough, I agree ....in fact I tried to point out to the suit propagandists who endlessly have repeated on this thread that people who don't enjoy to wear suits on vacations were (quotes from the thread) "haters who don't like dressing nice", "insecure men who deep down are girls" or a "trailer park set", who surely weared "Teva sandals and glittery Ed Hardy shirts" or "mechanic overalls while trolling the local K-Mart parking lot for white-trash girls", and who were "more than welcome to wear shit clothes and eat at soup kitchens", that all their assertions was simply embittered nonsense BS (to stay polite), and that one can have no desire to play the big fish in the pond by showing up in a club wearing a suit, but still be refined, elegant and wear expensive clothes and accessories (and maybe even more expensive than what all those so-called "sharp dressed guys" themselves wear).

About the cardigan, I personally like it and beleive me, you notice at 10 meters that is upper-upper-end quality. The most chic brands are not those that are the most garish.
 

augen sehen

Kingfisher
Prosal, I think you may be missing it or maybe I am, but I believe those were well-natured digs at el mech since he's, well, a mechanic and also a respected member plus has no problem with women.

I do agree that hate is not a good thing to see on this forum, especially for something as simple as clothing. In the end, you can look try-hard and uncomfortable in anything, all one has to do is train themselves to get rid of that uncomfortable mentality and apply what works, and discard the rest. Since you obviously do wear suits, you doubtless know the power of wearing one and maybe even tire of it after a while. Some people would like to feel that power all the time, or don't think of a suit as an obligation.

Its just like dresses and women - some women think its a mark of the patriarchy and of being uncomfortable to wear a dress, heels and makeup and some relish it.

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Prosal

 
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augen sehen said:
Prosal, I think you may be missing it or maybe I am, but I believe those were well-natured digs at el mech since he's, well, a mechanic and also a respected member plus has no problem with women.

I don't think so. Vorkuta righty pointed out earlier on this thread that "the suit propagandists seem to be very defensive" and that "if you say they (the suits) are unnecessary they seem to go on the attack", which was also my feeling.
 

worldwidetraveler

Hummingbird
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Prosal said:
But guys who put suits in their vacation suitcase and wear them for gaming girls abroad ? seriously ? ..come on, it's pathetic. It reminds me the losers...

Prosal said:
I would feel like a pathetic loser by doing so

Prosal said:
You seem to be a rather contemptuous person.

Prosal said:
and sorry, you are not "sharp dressed" with a fused or half-fused suit, but only a try-hard faker.


Prosal said:
I don't think so. Vorkuta righty pointed out earlier on this thread that "the suit propagandists seem to be very defensive" and that "if you say they (the suits) are unnecessary they seem to go on the attack", which was also my feeling.


Now I know your trolling.
 

el mechanico

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Prosal said:
augen sehen said:
Prosal, I think you may be missing it or maybe I am, but I believe those were well-natured digs at el mech since he's, well, a mechanic and also a respected member plus has no problem with women.

I don't think so. Vorkuta righty pointed out earlier on this thread that "the suit propagandists seem to be very defensive" and that "if you say they (the suits) are unnecessary they seem to go on the attack", which was also my feeling.
Mechanic aside Im a hot weather person. These summer style threads come up and it's obvious nobody here knows how to dress when it's hot out. The pics on the first page of this are the gayest shit ive ever seen in my life then we have the Gmanifesto saying Miami is suit weather in June.

My objection here is voice of reason for the other members who maybe impressionable enough to pull some gay shit like on the first page.
 

thegmanifesto

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worldwidetraveler said:
Hey Prosal, why don't you work out your insecurities somewhere else and stop shitting all over the thread.

Agreed.

Prosal, can you start a thread about wearing Cardigans and how to dress like a granpa from suburban Zanesville, OH instead?

Prosal said:
I would feel like a pathetic loser

el mechanico said:
The pics on the first page of this are the gayest shit ive ever seen in my life then we have the Gmanifesto saying Miami is suit weather in June.

Never said that squeaky.

In fact, I have been very clear that I have never been in Miami in summertime.

Although today is June 1st. And Miami is nice and cool today.

Suits are perfect at night from October to the end of May in Miami.

It is ok El Mech. You have just had a heavy dose of feminine brainwashing.

Keep reading the forum. I have hope that you will be cured.

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Bottom line, it is really stupid to argue about suits on here.

The guys that wear suits out at night are rolling to higher end places in A Grade cities.

The guys "who feel like losers", "who feel so insecure" and "don't feel comfortable dressing like a man" are rolling around D Grade cities, and Walmart parking lots.

That's it. It's just different levels of The Game.

Now lets keep this thread positive about Summer Suits, fair enough?
 
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