Supply chain disruptions thread

Kiwi

Woodpecker
Orthodox Inquirer
I buy beef by the entire cow. Far more cost efficient, tasty, and you support a local farmer and butcher directly instread of big ag.

If I could I would, but I've been trying to convince my family members to do this regardless. So far one has purchased another freezer and received a whole cow, and even better was given to them because they let their neighbour graze the cows on their land. Pretty good deal I think!
Now it's got me thinking about power supply issues for them. You don't want a freezer full of meat sitting there relying solely on the grid.
 

DanielH

Ostrich
Moderator
Orthodox
Now it's got me thinking about power supply issues for them. You don't want a freezer full of meat sitting there relying solely on the grid.
There's lots of good ways to preserve meat without electricity. Salt it, smoke it, or make pemmican. Pemmican will last between 10-30 years and it's just dried meat, suet/tallow, and maybe dried fruits and berries mixed in. Pemmican was made by frontiersmen and sold to be shipped all over the world centuries ago because it just did not go bad.

 

Enoch

Hummingbird
If I could I would, but I've been trying to convince my family members to do this regardless. So far one has purchased another freezer and received a whole cow, and even better was given to them because they let their neighbour graze the cows on their land. Pretty good deal I think!
Now it's got me thinking about power supply issues for them. You don't want a freezer full of meat sitting there relying solely on the grid.
If $$$ is not a huge deal whole house generators are pretty awesome.

Its possible to go really far into the "what if" rabbit hole to the point where you go insane and actually can't take any positive action at all because there is a level of disorder where that action will not help you.
 

Kiwi

Woodpecker
Orthodox Inquirer
There's lots of good ways to preserve meat without electricity. Salt it, smoke it, or make pemmican. Pemmican will last between 10-30 years and it's just dried meat, suet/tallow, and maybe dried fruits and berries mixed in. Pemmican was made by frontiersmen and sold to be shipped all over the world centuries ago because it just did not go bad.



Really great point about using alternative methods from history. Something I hadn't considered.

If $$$ is not a huge deal whole house generators are pretty awesome.

Its possible to go really far into the "what if" rabbit hole to the point where you go insane and actually can't take any positive action at all because there is a level of disorder where that action will not help you.

Yes exactly. My family and I felt that in lockdown discussing these matters. It can be paralysing. There's only so much you can do, and for every action taken can bring about it's own amount of problems, but good to be prepared regardless and more self reliant.
 

Enoch

Hummingbird
Do we have a homesteading thread for things like this? If not, I'm sure the ladies would enjoy being part of it. I love me some geeking out about walking away from the system.
I would ask our humble host to decide the best spot for that. For maximum traction the coronavirus part of the board probably the best...
 

Roosh

Cardinal
Orthodox
Stop complaining, peasants!

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Across the country, Americans’ expectations of speedy service and easy access to consumer products have been crushed like a Styrofoam container in a trash compactor. Time for some new, more realistic expectations.

Fast food is less fast. A huge flotilla of container ships is stuck offshore in California, waiting to unload. Shelves normally stocked with Halloween candy this time of year are empty, as I saw the other day at a Target here in Ann Arbor, Mich.

The issue has become so troublesome — with alarming economic and political ramifications — that the White House is stepping in, urging unions, port operators and big consumer-goods companies to work around the clock (if they aren’t already) to unclog supply pipelines.
American consumers, their expectations pampered and catered to for decades, are not accustomed to inconvenience.
“For generations, American shoppers have been trained to be nightmares,” Amanda Mull wrote in August in the Atlantic, before the supply chain problem turned truly ugly. “The pandemic has shown just how desperately the consumer class clings to the feeling of being served.”

Customers’ persistent whine, “Why don’t they just hire more people?,” sounds feeble in this era of the Great Resignation, especially in industries, such as food service, with reputations for being tough places to work.

Rather than living constantly on the verge of throwing a fit, and risking taking it out on overwhelmed servers, struggling shop owners or late-arriving delivery people, we’d do ourselves a favor by consciously lowering expectations.
 

MeaningfulMan

Woodpecker
Catholic
I import goods from a European country, into an east coast port in the United States. (For 20 years prior, my experience was exclusively China to Long Beach so I have experience in both.) From there they are trucked to a third party warehouse/fulfilment center, and then onto to independent retailer stores (small parcels), and chain store DCs & Amazon (LTL shipments).
Everything is a mess at every step. I personally deal with this every day. Everyday more money is extorted from us at a vareity of place along the supply chain.

Just as an example, here is the email signature from trucking company I am currently dealing with:

Under the current market conditions we are experiencing rail delays, container & chassis shortages, port congestion, vessel delays, vessel bunching, and vessel schedule unreliability. As a result you may incur additional charges such as pre pulls, demurrage, port congestion, per diem, additional chassis days, yard storage, etc. Changes in the earliest port, terminal and rail return dates may result in additional charges such as, per diem, redelivery fees, port congestion fees, additional chassis fees, yard storage fees, etc.

Please know that we will continue to provide the best service possible under the current market conditions and will do everything we can to limit these situations and minimize extra charges.


Those are hundreds of dollars per day per issue that one must pay or lose your goods. As an example, Chicago - a common destination for containers going by rail from Cali - hit importers with storage fees up to $10,000 due to containers being stacked up awaiting the next train.

Like everyone else, I forgot about the homosexualist who is the Secretary of Transportation. Buttigieg continues to remain on paternity leave, but poked his head out of his shell to explain to CNN that the reason everything is backed up is due to a massive increase in consumer demand, and that the demand exists due to the successes of the Biden Administration in getting money into the hands of US citizens.

The press lauds him for juggling breastfeeding duties with making the decision to run the Long Beach port 24/7 in order to get containers off vessels so it does not look bad to the visible eye, seeing all those ships backed up. But what is going to happen is there will be more inaccessible containers, more containers without a chassis so it can be loaded on a truck, etc... and this will be paid from by the importer.

I am of the opinion that is is a deliberate destruction of our supply chain so that they can "Build Back Better." For an example, Maersk was the driver of the insane increase in container fees from roughly $5k to $25k to go from China to the US. They just sold their container manufacturing business to China, so do not expect price decreases. And now are buying e-commerce logistics companies in the US. (Maersk was instrumental in shifting the chassis business from ownership to rentals 10 years ago, another subject. In fact there are many examples dating back to the 90s that lead me to think this is a controlled demolition).

Of course we also have a massive truck driver shortage. And then also heavy equipment operators. I realize this post is scattered and couple be written better but I do have a decent amount of knowledge regarding the movement of consumer goods.
Have people started to get mad and do bad things?
 

sarmaticus

Robin
Orthodox
There's lots of good ways to preserve meat without electricity. Salt it, smoke it, or make pemmican. Pemmican will last between 10-30 years and it's just dried meat, suet/tallow, and maybe dried fruits and berries mixed in. Pemmican was made by frontiersmen and sold to be shipped all over the world centuries ago because it just did not go bad.


In Romania there is a tradition to put the pig meat in its own fat/lard and preserve it in large glass jars, in the basement. It lasts for months.
You also can't believe how delicious is that meat cooked in its own lard.

 

Penitent

Woodpecker
Orthodox
Soviet-style bread lines just around the corner
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C-Note

Hummingbird
Other Christian
Gold Member
Im in SoCal Just got back in to US after 2 weeks in DR and last night was the second visit in a row the local grocery store was out of extra wide egg noodles. There were every other kind of noodles but they just dont work for my gourmet squab mac n cheese. :(

Lets Go Brandon !
The creamed corn section at my local Wegmans has been empty for about a week now. You gave me an idea to print out some slips of papers that say "Let's go Brandon!" and leave them on empty shelves at my supermarket.
 

Foolsgo1d

Peacock
I find it very worrying we still have a significant number of people unaware of what has happened and is currently going on around the world.

They want to reduce our meat and animal protein consumption, reduce our freedom of movement and eventually destroy the pensions.

> They forced farmers to cull their livestock in many countries and are continuing to do so
> They are forcing energy prices up, therefore forcing feed, fertilizer and a myriad of other factors up
> On top of energy increases they are quickly introducing the Green Agenda despite whats going on
> Fuel at the pumps has gone up and will continue to do so. I can only imagine what awaits us at $100/barrel
> Inflation across the entire spectrum of consumer goods, putting more stress on food buying
> Vaccine mandates being introduced and political maneuvering over the previous years that are now combining to make it very difficult to move things across borders and through ports

Yes, this is no accident. Whilst stupidity is involved this is not the root cause.

I mean we're living in the months of mass firings of front line medical staff who were deemed essential to the country not too long ago. More shots in arms despite evidence proving its making it worse.

And lets not forget the financial system that is all but set to nuke every country on Earth to give the central banks and their financier shop fronts the most power they've ever had.

This leads to that leaked memo. By the time this thing gets really going the masses will beg for normality and will accept any condition.
 
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