Supply chain & energy/food/commodity disruptions Megathread [USA]

Easy_C

Peacock
Hmmm, seems odd.

Something very dark is going on. Some group/entity is sabotaging our food supply.


No, this one isn't. I am friends with some people who have direct knowledge of this who work for cattle companies involved.

A lot of these deaths happened at feedlots. In Kansas, the weather had an unusually cool period followed immediately by a week long heat wave over 100*. In pastures, there's either naturally shaded areas or roofs set up, and often some combination of a lake or misted area. In the feed lots ,this does not exist.

The cattle were unable to acclimate to the sudden temperature change, and the ones in feedlots without access to any way to cool themselves (and in many areas, not enough plumbing set up for water) and died due to heat stroke.

Some things are extremely suspicious like the aircraft crashing into food plants. Other things are just Murphy showing up.
 

Thomas More

Crow
Protestant
For the location I'm discussing, it's in the foothills, and there's little to no civilization between it and 12,000ft-13,000ft peaks. I suppose there is likely some redirecting going on around the alpine lakes, but there's still just so much terrain immediately nearby that should gather snowmelt.

But, the Western US is going to have some real problems. There are growing populations in UT, AZ, CO, etc, and a shrinking water supply. If the Colorado River Basin has a string of a few particularly bad years, it's going to be rough for the Southwestern US.
I think in that area, a well can be unpredictably expensive, but once you hit a good rate of water flow, it wouldn't be at risk of going dry.
 

budoslavic

Eagle
Orthodox
Gold Member
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Valentine

Kingfisher
Orthodox Inquirer
Gold Member
What's the point though? If it's an effort to keep Dems in power, it's hard to see how breeding chaos under their watch accomplishes that, unless they are confident in being able to rig elections into the future or suspend elections due to this "emergency". It seems to me though that creating artificial comfort under big government Democrats would be a more logical strategy if expansion of the security state is their goal.

Trump would have had these things investigated thoroughly, especially since the media would make these things into a bigger issue and put the blame all on Trump for it. This is the only time they can get away with it, because they want to create an artificial scarcity for the population in order to get more tyrannical laws introduced in order to "solve" the problem they introduced.
 

Easy_C

Peacock
CIA is my guess given all the food processing plants which have also gone up in flames.

If you look for people directly employed by intelligence agencies, you will be let down.

That type of op is typically done by a PMC. That way the only paper trail leading to the government is a check and nothing can be FOIA (more important than it seems because even circumstantial evidence can point to what was done)
 

Parmesan

Kingfisher
Other Christian
Trump would have had these things investigated thoroughly, especially since the media would make these things into a bigger issue and put the blame all on Trump for it. This is the only time they can get away with it, because they want to create an artificial scarcity for the population in order to get more tyrannical laws introduced in order to "solve" the problem they introduced.
I occasionally turn on conservative talk radio at work, and they can't stop jerking themselves over the "red wave" coming this November. Of course, the last "red wave" in 2010 ushered in... Obama being re-elected in 2012. Cons and libs alike can't help themselves but blame those in power for all their problems. If anything, liberals will breathe a sigh of relief because they won't have to do mental gymnastics to justify all their latte liberal hypocrisies, and the media go back to attacking and blaming conservatives. The "red wave" in November will just mean normie Americans will once again see the grass as greener when unaccountable liberals can once again promise them unicorns and rainbows via speeches laced with academic jargon and emotional theatrics. We'll be right back to a 50/50 election come 2024.
 

Argus101

Robin
Protestant
I think in that area, a well can be unpredictably expensive, but once you hit a good rate of water flow, it wouldn't be at risk of going dry.
That depends on whether your neighbors have been bought up by Big Agriculture. Many small ranchers and farmers have been ruined when
their water wells dried up because their greedy neighbors started pumping a lot of groundwater to irrigate their grapes or carrots or alfalfa or
other water-intensive crops, dropping the local groundwater level by hundreds of feet, and the small farmers couldn't afford the big money required
to drill deeper water wells.
 

Roosh

Cardinal
Orthodox
I have combined two existing supply chain threads into this one. Discuss all commodity disruptions in this thread if it's within the United States. For abroad, use this newly created thread:
 

Ozzymandius

Robin
Non-Christian
No, this one isn't. I am friends with some people who have direct knowledge of this who work for cattle companies involved.

A lot of these deaths happened at feedlots. In Kansas, the weather had an unusually cool period followed immediately by a week long heat wave over 100*. In pastures, there's either naturally shaded areas or roofs set up, and often some combination of a lake or misted area. In the feed lots ,this does not exist.

The cattle were unable to acclimate to the sudden temperature change, and the ones in feedlots without access to any way to cool themselves (and in many areas, not enough plumbing set up for water) and died due to heat stroke.

Some things are extremely suspicious like the aircraft crashing into food plants. Other things are just Murphy showing up.

Sorry, not buying your explanation, especially in the context of what appears to be dozens and dozens of cases of arson and sabotage against food processing facilities in the past 18 months.

When in American history have 10,000 head of cattle just up and died because of hot weather?

Can you point us to any historical articles of similar cases?

Are you telling me that ranchers, who have been raising cattle for decades (maybe a century plus for family run ops) are NOT prepared for this very possibility? Like they don't have hardcore contingency plans ready for just about any potential catastrophe in order to protect their livelihoods? And we aren't just talking about some rare, hard-to-predict anomaly here. We're talking about a bloody ROUTINE HEAT WAVE - you know, the kind that happens every three to five years or so.

If you can point us to a dozen or more such cases in the last 30 years, with links to articles, I am more than prepared to walk back my assessment. After all, like many here, I am more interested in truth than protecting personal ego.

But as of now, I am calling it like out for exactly what it looks like - SABOTAGE.
 

Easy_C

Peacock
Sorry, not buying your explanation, especially in the context of what appears to be dozens and dozens of cases of arson and sabotage against food processing facilities in the past 18 months.

When in American history have 10,000 head of cattle just up and died because of hot weather?

Can you point us to any historical articles of similar cases?

Are you telling me that ranchers, who have been raising cattle for decades (maybe a century plus for family run ops) are NOT prepared for this very possibility? Like they don't have hardcore contingency plans ready for just about any potential catastrophe in order to protect their livelihoods? And we aren't just talking about some rare, hard-to-predict anomaly here. We're talking about a bloody ROUTINE HEAT WAVE - you know, the kind that happens every three to five years or so.

If you can point us to a dozen or more such cases in the last 30 years, with links to articles, I am more than prepared to walk back my assessment. After all, like many here, I am more interested in truth than protecting personal ego.

But as of now, I am calling it like out for exactly what it looks like - SABOTAGE.

Have it your way. Not like I actually know people who work at some of the specific cattle companies in question or anything. And those people were working to haul water to the feed lots trying to save as many cattle as they could.

And no. It’s not a “Routine Hear Wave” because it followed directly on the heels of a week where temperatures went as low as 40* at night. That’s the part that was extremely unusual for Kansas and Oklahoma.

If you think that’s nuts well…I suspect you haven’t ever been in a job where you have to work outside all day. It’s the exact same way with Army recruits. Heat conditions that don’t bother them at the end of a basic training cycle would kill them at the beginning of it. Believe it or not, your body DOES have physical changes in response to physical temperature changes in your environment and those changes take 3-4 weeks of repeated exposure to occur.
 
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Easy_C

Peacock
Example: Here is a field manual explaining how this works: https://www.usariem.army.mil/assets/docs/partnering/HeatAcclimatizationGuide.pdf

You’re also missing out on how this thing occurred all the way down into Texas. What exactly is this directed energy weapon that’s capable of simultaneously killing off the cattle, but harming ONLY the cattle over an area spanning thousands of miles?

The sabotage of key locations is looking more likely but we’re not dealing only with Sabotage. The draught conditions and early heatwave are also real and have been negatively impacting agriculture. It’s a perfect storm of deliberate economic implosion and everything else that can go wrong doing so.
 

MRBR1908

Robin
Other Christian
As a person who lives in the midwest, I can say it was a drastic change in weather from the extremely and unseasonably cold and wet April and May, into all of a sudden 90's and hot sunny days. It was a shock to the system for everyone.
 

Jive Turkey

Kingfisher
Orthodox Catechumen
Trump would have had these things investigated thoroughly, especially since the media would make these things into a bigger issue and put the blame all on Trump for it. This is the only time they can get away with it, because they want to create an artificial scarcity for the population in order to get more tyrannical laws introduced in order to "solve" the problem they introduced.
He didn't even lock Hillary up. Sorry, Trump is a clown. Turned his back on the people he instructed to go to the capitol and "fight like hell". Washed his hands of the whole thing. He also endorses vaccines and acted like his hands were tied when it came to lifting the lockdowns. There is no political solution. People in power cannot, will not and are not interested in saving us. God must protect us and we must take care of ourselves and each other.
 

stugatz

Pelican
Catholic
Trump would have had these things investigated thoroughly, especially since the media would make these things into a bigger issue and put the blame all on Trump for it. This is the only time they can get away with it, because they want to create an artificial scarcity for the population in order to get more tyrannical laws introduced in order to "solve" the problem they introduced.
I understand what you're saying, but cheap food delivery on demand, cheap Asian crap on demand from Bezos, cheap endless music/movies/games/porn streaming on demand...all of those have done wonders to keep people occupied, and a lot of people are willing to deal with a lot of annoyances to maintain the status quo. People have straight up accepted illegal immigration, the ratcheting up of degeneracy, and other related things just because they want access to all of that comfort.

I understand that Trump winning horrified them, but he and his admirers weren't exactly the most shrewd people politically...and Trump only got so much done. We were still well on the way to Western culture imploding before 2100.

What exactly are the elites trying to do with manufacturing a famine or something like that? What makes them have to speed up this process? MILLIONS of very angry and desperate people would cause a lot more problems than maybe a few hundred thousand malcontents scattered across the US, most having never even met each other.

OK, I know that a lot of them have bunkers in New Zealand. What if you have a continent full of angry people refusing to participate? What are they gonna do, drop dozens of hydrogen bombs to quell what's essentially a couple billion people rioting? For a bunch of hyperintelligent elites that have it all figured out, this doesn't sound viable.
 
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