Taking a pay cut to move to a bigger city with prettier women?

[BigFellow]

Although many people on this forum rip on big cities for their degenerate leftism, I have noticed that women are prettier in big cities. Not so much the inner city or New York City, but major metropolitan areas in general tend to have prettier women than small towns and rural areas. There seems to be a correlation between wealth and beauty, and people tend to be wealthier in the cities. I'm not sure I understand why, it could be better nutrition, better pediatric services, or genetics--maybe the better-looking people get offered the higher-paying jobs. Whatever it is, on average women are better-looking in the cities.

I am currently earning about $68,000/year and live in a small city that is quite isolated. I am considering pursuing a job that pays about $50,000/year that is in a major metropolitan area. At my current job I have to pay about $200/month for medical insurance, and I think the job that pays $50,000 might offer free medical insurance. So it would be a pay cut of maybe $16,000.

One of the major reasons for making the move would be the increased likelihood of finding a woman. I can't see myself finding a wife in the small town.
Do you think this is crazy? Is there something I could do with this increased income that I am overlooking?

The counterargument would be that the increased income could be used to fund trips to Russia to find a wife there, and I could then use the money to import her to the U.S. However, I'm not sure that's the best strategy. I think pursuing a Russian woman should be my backup plan and not my first choice.

 

[Repo]

Yes this is a terrible idea, you are supposed to get paid more to move to a big city, not less. Keep job searching if you want to move to the city.

 

[Zenta]

Also don't forget that while they may be more attractive looking, women in a big city, especially the good looking ones, have a lot more access to men and usually a lot less traditional values, decipher that as you may. So I think there is a trade off here you need to consider besides the pay cut. But yes as stated you should probably be getting paid more to goto the big city in the first place, unless it sets you up for more opportunity for growth in the future.

Quick edit: re Russian wifes. If you do decide to go that route, don't jump into something right off the bat and end up like this guy https://www.rooshvforum.com/thread-74811.html

 

[kel]

What kind of woman do you find there, though?

I'm not saying all women in the city are degenerate NPCs, but.... it leans heavily in that direction.

I'm coming from the other direction from you. I split my time between two very large, globalist hellhole cities. I work in a kinda hip industry and I go to all the right parties. Between the two, in any given month I see about ten different women. It's a fun distraction, but that's all it is. I'm hoping to train some of them into wife material and then move out to the countryside, but your average millennial/zoomer woman is irreparably broken at this point. Most of the girls I see are just fulfilling a carnal need and keeping me interested with variety, most of them I don't even kid myself into thinking I can train, and those that I am trying to train I'm realistic about my chances. I don't know exactly how to find good women. I suspect, contrary to what you're suggesting, that it would be a bit easier in a smaller place. Not totally rural, but a smaller town.

 

[BigFellow]

Of course there are other factors at play here; I'm not happy with my current job and want to change. On the other hand, I don't think I'll like the job in the big city either.

I could possibly get fired from my current job and that would limit my opportunities for growth in the future.

I am aware that women in the cities are often degenerate. I would stay away from the inner city. But I think if you get into the right suburbs you may be able to find the appropriate niche.

Perhaps I should rephrase the question--should the better access to prettier women in the city be a major factor in my job search, or should salary be a much more important factor.

The responses indicate that what I'm proposing is a bad idea. However, would those of you who are earning about $50,000 in a big city move out in the middle of nowhere for a $16,000 increase in pay? Most people I know wouldn't do that. But the affirmative act of taking a pay cut is what seems to turn people off.

 

[Rob Banks]

Let me see, do I want to make more money and look for a wife in a (less degenerate) isolated small city, or do I want to make less money and look for a wife in a (far more degenerate) big city?

Gee, I don't know. It's such a hard choice.

...I have noticed that women are prettier in big cities...

Oh, I see. The women are "hotter" in big cities. Now it makes sense.

https://www.rooshv.com/worldy-beauty-vs-graceful-beauty

 

[kel]

However, would those of you who are earning about $50,000 in a big city move out in the middle of nowhere for a $16,000 increase in pay? Most people I know wouldn't do that. But the affirmative act of taking a pay cut is what seems to turn people off.

Taking a pay cut and having a higher cost of living (and, presumably, having to leave your current friends and loved ones behind). That's a big ask. Do you love this job? Or will it at least potentially be a springboard to something new that you couldn't get elsewhere?

Social health is important, and that includes dating, but taking a major pay cut and leaving my life behind in the hopes of having a dating pool with hotter, sluttier women seems like a bargain I would not make.

But, I admit it's easy to say that as somebody who earns a high salary and is still living the exact degenerate lifestyle he's advising you against seeking.

 

[BigFellow]

However, would those of you who are earning about $50,000 in a big city move out in the middle of nowhere for a $16,000 increase in pay? Most people I know wouldn't do that. But the affirmative act of taking a pay cut is what seems to turn people off.

Taking a pay cut and having a higher cost of living (and, presumably, having to leave your current friends and loved ones behind). That's a big ask. Do you love this job? Or will it at least potentially be a springboard to something new that you couldn't get elsewhere?

Social health is important, and that includes dating, but taking a major pay cut and leaving my life behind in the hopes of having a dating pool with hotter, sluttier women seems like a bargain I would not make.

But, I admit it's easy to say that as somebody who earns a high salary and is still living the exact degenerate lifestyle he's advising you against seeking.

I'm not sure I agree that the bigger city necessarily has a higher cost of living. I was living in a big city 2 years ago and I was paying less rent than I am in a small town. In a small town the supply of housing is smaller and that can drive the price up. You don't have that many options and you're stuck with what that small town will give you. Also, I am having to pay for home Internet in my small town while in a big city it was easier to find some other place where I could use the Internet. Certain things are more scarce in a small town and that can drive the price up. Certain places can charge me the price they want and I can't just easily go somewhere else to find a competitor.

With many big cities, for sure, it is more expensive, as certain demographic and political factors can drive prices up. But for a moderate big city that isn't too overrun by leftist politicians, I don't think it's always more expensive.

I wouldn't be leaving loved ones behind. I would be leaving behind friends I have at work I guess, but I'd also be leaving non-friends from work as well. The new job could potentially be used as a springboard to another opportunity, in a sense. I am concerned that my stock could go down at my current job, because I don't have the right boss and people around me, and that could potentially harm me in the long run.

 

[kel]

I would base the decision off stuff like that ^^^ rather than whether the women will be hotter where you're going. Women come and go, but you'll need to have your life in order to attract one who's worth any more than a fuck because you're bored and it's been a few days. If this job move is a general upgrade in life (over the medium term, after a reasonable amount of short-term sacrifice), then go for it.

 

[JoeSomebody]

People here rightfully rip big cities because they are rife with degeneracy and pathetic Leftism. Is that something you can deal with on a day to day basis?

Girls in bigger cities prettier? I'd say there are MORE pretty woman on AVERAGE, because there are MORE people living in cities. It's a sheer numbers game. A city with a population of 2 million, or a Kansas town with a population just north of 3k??? Do the math.

People tend to be "better looking" in cities because there is more COMPETITION for both males and females. People looks-max, gym-max, style-max, apartment-max, and so on. There's more INCENTIVE to be on top of your game in a bigger city versus a smaller one. You can be painfully average in a small town/small city and still be the fucking man if you check a few boxes. In the big cities, you need to be firing on all cylinders at all times.

Yes wealth and beauty CAN go hand in hand because when you can afford all the things to maximize your appearance, your overall presentation of your physical self will improve. You can take a naturally pretty Amish girl and get her the right make-up, right hairstyle, right clothing that accentuates all the curves and at first glance you wouldn't be able to tell her from a "pretty" city girl until you got talking with her. Let me ask you: Is it their actual natural beauty you are to be attracted to, or is it doctored up high-maintenance women who have all the bells and whistles which tickle your fancy??

People tend to be wealthier in cities because usually the jobs will pay more on average. The cost of living is higher as well, as you are aware of. So when all is said and done, a single guy making 50k in rural Iowa is not all that different financially than if he were living in NYC making 100k. It kind of all evens out.

Suburbs can be better, however, social circle is king there and the likelihood of you assimilating into a group of people and having access to pretty girls is slim at best. The older you get the harder it will become as well. Cities are better in this sense because people tend to move there from all over. There are less rigid groups, and social circles tend to open and close quite frequently. There isn't a 'townie" aspect that many suburbs have, even if they are in the shadow of major cities.

I would erase the Russian thoughts unless you speak the language/and or are keenly aware of the culture and are willing to move there. I'd say this to any man thinking of living abroad in whatever country, not just Russia.

Only you know what's best for you, but I would try and max yourself wherever you are now in every aspect, and then see what happens.

Keep in mind, women in big cities tend to be soulless, Godless beings with zero want or need for creating a wholesome, lasting relationship with a family as the end game. Is that something you really want to be a part of???

 

[Rob Banks]

People tend to be "better looking" in cities because there is more COMPETITION for both males and females. People looks-max, gym-max, style-max, apartment-max, and so on. There's more INCENTIVE to be on top of your game...

Why would you want a woman who "looks-maxes and style-maxes" and is "on top of her game" instead of an (average- to above average-looking) woman who is naturally beautiful in her personality and the way she carries herself?

EDIT: At first I only skimmed through Joe's post and I thought he was advocating moving to big cities to look for "better looking" women.

Now that I read the whole post, I agree with Joe.

 

[Emperor Constantine]

I'd like to take a moment to dispel the notion that it's easier to find a decent wife in a small town. I've been living in a small town for several years now, and I can tell you I'm waiting for the moment when I can move somewhere else where I have a snowball's chance in hell of meeting a wife.

I know every community is different, but the eighteen-to-twentysomething chicks where I live range from fat cow to drug addict, with a few cute but completely unmarriable art hoes.

I wouldn't move somewhere more expensive for less money either, but if anybody's banking on finding a decent woman in a small town he needs to choose his small town very carefully. Cities have more degenerates but they have more decent women too, regardless of how bad the ratio is.

 

[Travesty]

There is always the unicorn idealist theory and there is reality.

In a smaller town usually unless you grew up or have deep family or friend connections in a small town you will be locked out of access. Most girls will be taken, divorced, or against taking an outsider seriously.

If you are not born into this or don't have the connections then I believe to have the best options is to move to a metro with a high enough population but is not as status, image, or ultra politically correct driven as others.

Image status (Hollywood rich chic image or hipster image) metros would be: NYC, LA, Vegas, San Diego, Miami, Dallas, Portland, Austin

Ultra politically correct metros would be: San Francisco, Portland, Seattle, D.C.

The more down to earth and less image driven metros (yes some are politically correct and somewhat image driven, but not ultra): Chicago, Minneapolis, Salt Lake City, Detroit, Houston, San Antonio, Indianapolis, Raleigh, Charlotte, Milwaukee, Madison, Ann Arbor, Denver, Ft. Collins, Boise, Columbus, Tampa, Sacramento

 

[Startup Entrepreneur]

For the last 3 years, I have spent a significant amount of time in New York City. Both as a tourist and a student/worker.

In my experience, you will have access to the best quality women in New York City as a university student. Not a corporate worker and definitely not as a tourist.

Being a student at New York University or Columbia University in the City of New York will enable access to top quality American and international women. It is off the charts compared to the shit that is in the rest of the United States (outside of maybe Miami).

Being a university student in New York City is your best bet.

 

[Startup Entrepreneur]

In the United States, the only women I have on WhatsApp or in my number list are from either NYU or Columbia.

I don't know if any of them are wifey material yet, but I have been dating several of them for the past few months. Because of the chinese virus pandemic in NYC, I can't date or meet any of them right now, unforunately.

Edit: I have also kept in touch with NYU/Columbia women on Instagram as well. Its funny how even "smart" girls from Columbia will post bikini pics on Instagram--it shows women are the same eveywhere with regards to attention on social media. Though I have noticed they are more "classy" about it--and don't indulge in the same behavior as THOTs. Education makes a difference here.

 

[Startup Entrepreneur]

I just realized my posts revealed that I am a graduate of Columbia University in the City of New York lol. I will try to be more anonymous with my posts from now on wards.

 

[WhatAccent]

Honestly, do what your heart tells you. Cities can leave you exhausted, requiring a lot of inner game to keep pushing back up. I myself am a poor, single man living in the city for over 7 years. If I was psychologically better about my situation, I could have cultivated more interest rather than intrigued girls who wanted to cheat with me, which I didn't do and have mixed feelings over. It's a matter of finding the right person at the time if you're not into game, which I've always struggled to implement.

With a decent income, you can move up in the city. Even before that, there are waitresses galore, some of whom are good people. I'm commuting via bus to finish my degree in a smaller city (online now because of corona). If I had transportation, I could find plenty of Christian or non-Christian women down there because of my city experience.

I'll add that I'm not advocating sin as I'm a lost soul looking for affection. Good luck to you, OP.

 

[jordypip23]

Yes this is a terrible idea, you are supposed to get paid more to move to a big city, not less. Keep job searching if you want to move to the city.

Exactly. In terms of COL arbitrage, OP would be shooting himself in the foot with this move. This pandemic is teaching some city folk a lesson that you could literally get trapped in a sickened concrete jungle with depleted physical resources. I think a good middle ground are the mid-sized cities (some of them are Sunbelt cities, some are not, the Midwest still has decent bang for the buck too). If you're near some huge city, you may want to actually reside in a pocket that's away from it. Maybe a satellite city or neighboring city or suburb 45 minutes or an hour at least out of the urban core.

 

[BigFellow]

Yes this is a terrible idea, you are supposed to get paid more to move to a big city, not less. Keep job searching if you want to move to the city.

Exactly. In terms of COL arbitrage, OP would be shooting himself in the foot with this move. This pandemic is teaching some city folk a lesson that you could literally get trapped in a sickened concrete jungle with depleted physical resources. I think a good middle ground are the mid-sized cities (some of them are Sunbelt cities, some are not, the Midwest still has decent bang for the buck too). If you're near some huge city, you may want to actually reside in a pocket that's away from it. Maybe a satellite city or neighboring city or suburb 45 minutes or an hour at least out of the urban core.

What do you mean by "mid-sized" cities? When I talk about a big city, I am generally talking about cities with 1 million to 1.5 million or more in the metropolitan area. I'm not necessarily talking about the biggest 0.0001% of cities.

 

[pk9090]

There is always the unicorn idealist theory and there is reality.

In a smaller town usually unless you grew up or have deep family or friend connections in a small town you will be locked out of access. Most girls will be taken, divorced, or against taking an outsider seriously.

If you are not born into this or don't have the connections then I believe to have the best options is to move to a metro with a high enough population but is not as status, image, or ultra politically correct driven as others.

Image status (Hollywood rich chic image or hipster image) metros would be: NYC, LA, Vegas, San Diego, Miami, Dallas, Portland, Austin

Ultra politically correct metros would be: San Francisco, Portland, Seattle, D.C.

The more down to earth and less image driven metros (yes some are politically correct and somewhat image driven, but not ultra): Chicago, Minneapolis, Salt Lake City, Detroit, Houston, San Antonio, Indianapolis, Raleigh, Charlotte, Milwaukee, Madison, Ann Arbor, Denver, Ft. Collins, Boise, Columbus, Tampa, Sacramento

This.

Big cities give you more options, while not particular all good ones, its better than be in a isolated place with less people.

Once you choose the city make sure you also choose a good logistic.