Tattoos- Manosphere

[Easy_C]

As my father in law put it when commenting on a conversation regarding tattoos:

"Are you a marine?

Are you a biker?

Are you an ex-con?

No? Then don't get a tattoo!"


The only one I might consider is getting a tatooed "wedding band", with the reason being that I'm in an old school Catholic marriage (with traditional gender roles and a feminine, submissive wife) but freaking hate wearing rings.

 

[El Chinito loco]

The only one I might consider is getting a tatooed "wedding band", with the reason being that I'm in an old school Catholic marriage (with traditional gender roles and a feminine, submissive wife) but freaking hate wearing rings.

To be sufficiently cool with this generation you need to tattoo the words "wedding band" in elvish on your ring finger.

 

[Geomann180]

Growing up my father told me that if I ever got earrings he'd pull them from my ears and if I got tattoos he'd cut them with the skin off with a knife.

Even then, I never much desired to get a tattoo because I've had a large scar my whole life (and a few others), so I don't particularly need a tattoo. Lastly, I'll quote the only intelligent thing Kim Kardashian ever said:

Getting a tattoo is like putting a bumper sticker on a ferrari.

G

 

[VincentVinturi]

Have you seen some of the tattoos people are getting now? We're looking at a 3-5 year timeline of regret.

haha yes I've seen some bad ones, especially when I lived in San Francisco.

But to be honest I haven't seen that many terrible tattoos in recent years.

Here in Thailand you mostly see these kinds of tattoos:

These designs are pretty ubiquitous and have a lot of cultural/religious significant to Thais.

You can get them done the traditional way, with a bamboo needle, buddhist blessing, and all.

Or you can get them done with a machine.

The machine designs come out nicer and age better but also take quite a while to heal.

Of course, foreigners can't possibly understand all the nuanced meaning behind one of these tatts and just get them because they look sweet.

But I don't have a problem with that per se.

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I think tattoos can be deeply personal and a gorgeous adornment if done tastefully.

But if you meet a person who is incongruent with their tattoos then of course they'll look like a walking farce, and your perception will probably be that the tattoos look stupid.

Kind of like "the man makes the clothing" and not the other way around.

Condemning all tattoos to me is like saying "music is ugly, people should stop making it".

Sure, most of the popular music your hear today is like taking a cheese grater to your ear drum, but it doesn't mean music sucks.

Music is just a vehicle to express something.

It means the culture has lost its ability to discern, understand, appreciate and create aesthetic beauty.

It means the culture has become lazy and deluded to the point where so-called artists try to pass off talentless, cacophonous nonsense as good art when just the opposite is true.

Most chicks look terrible with tattoos because they're just attention whoring hipsters smearing their bodies with ink with zero musicality behind it.

Throw in a septum piercing and stop shaving your armpits and boom, you're in the club.

But rarely you'll see a girl who understands something about art and beauty and has just one or two tasteful tattoos that don't necessarily draw attention to themselves, but allude to some part of their body.

Or draw your eyes to an accentuated curve.

So to me, tattoos are like music or art or clothing.

You can do it right or you can slap something together and try to pass it off as attractive.

It all depends upon people having some kind of aesthetic compass and using it judiciously.

 

[Ingocnito]

Nothing screams beta squid like tattooing your girl's name or picture on you.

Here's a major problem with tattoos besides just social signals: I learned talkin to what many would consider in the US an 8+ in the gym.. 2 sleeves, leg tatts, and they actually don't look that bad on her, smokin body Italian decent... tattoos fade. You constantly have to get them touched up if you want them to look good, Why? Very simple. Skin abrasion. ANYWHERE your skin gets rubbed, the dermal abrasion dulls the tattoo. Then of course anything that causes dermal regeneration to repair damaged cells like tanning, sun exposure, even swimming.. can fade them.

Why the fuck do I want to put artwork on that always wears, fades, and looks like shit because I have to wear clothes or want to be in the sun not covered in SPF 24/7?

So IMO some tattoo artwork looks cool in the first 1-3 months,... then they just fade to shit and the detail goes away and they look dumb like doodled cartoons.

 

[El Chinito loco]

Nothing says tough guy and i've lived a full life more than tattooing a millionaire black athlete onto your back.

 

[TigerMandingo]

One of my best buddies has a tattoo similar to the one George Clooney sported in From Dusk till Dawn, so basically it's a giant flame going up his neck and all the way down the right side of his body. Though I'm not a fan of tats, I was quite impressed with his, even though the guy has fucked up his career prospects Like another poster said, if the guy's in decent shape and good-looking, he can pull it off.

 

[blairnaso]

Tattoos are like marriage. When you first marry her, she looks amazing. Then time takes its toll, and she gets fat and saggy. But you've been through so much, that you love her anyway because of all you share. Or you just regret meeting her everyday.

 

[Foolsgo1d]

Convicts, bikers, gangsters, drug dealers, bar slags, hard men and general nuts get tattoos to reflect their psyche and experiences. When I see some guy with a tribal or numerous tatts accompanied by a hipster beard/mustache I laugh and acknowledge how pathetic they look.

The problem being is that a lot of girls are going for tattoo's and other edgy looks in guys believing those without are some sort of vanilla boring "clean" guy who is scared to express some form of individuality or danger.

 

[blairnaso]

Not about tattoos, but very relevant to this conversation:

 

[The Wire]

Life isn't that long.

Certainly not long enough for regrets about a little ink.

Have you seen some of the tattoos people are getting now? We're looking at a 3-5 year timeline of regret.

It's going to be interesting in 15 years or so when it's really going to be an issue. It's one thing to be young and have them but it's a different ballgame when your 45. It's kind of like smoking. A 20 year old girl can get away with it many times but when you are 40 and smoking it's completely fucking disgusting.

 

[Easy_C]

Convicts, bikers, gangsters, drug dealers, bar slags, hard men and general nuts get tattoos to reflect their psyche and experiences. When I see some guy with a tribal or numerous tatts accompanied by a hipster beard/mustache I laugh and acknowledge how pathetic they look.

The problem being is that a lot of girls are going for tattoo's and other edgy looks in guys believing those without are some sort of vanilla boring "clean" guy who is scared to express some form of individuality or danger.

Well said. It works for those types because they actually do have the personality and mindset that being covered in ink implies. Most of the ones I've met are great guys but I still wouldn't fuck with them......though in their defense the bikers I've met were always respectful and friendly to the point that I never found any reason to take offense to them.

 

[RexImperator]

I remember back in the 1990's you'd often find that a girl had a small tattoo on her ankle, wrist, or somewhere hidden by clothing but now there are tons of chicks with whole tattoo sleeves, tats all over their thighs, and phrases written on their chest up near their neck plainly visible all the time.

 

[la_mode]

Statistically, one small tattoo is quantified the exact same way as several larger tattoos or sleeves, in terms of "does the person have a tattoo?"

Even in the most alternative cities in the US (besides the hipster neighborhoods), there are still generally more women with small or minimal tattoos than outlandish "riot grrl" style tattoos all over.

 

[Kickb]

Im going to get a Manosphere tattoo on my Bulging bicep

 

[blairnaso]

I want to get "Return" on one butt cheek and "Of Kings" on the other, like the Egyptian Christians who tattoo crosses on their wrists to spite themselves if they ever convert to Islam.

 

[HenryHill]

I always find it strange when people say they don't want to get a tattoo because they're afraid they'll come to regret it later.

Life isn't that long.

Certainly not long enough for regrets about a little ink.

People act like these things last forever but you'll be fertilizer in the blink of an eye.

"Life is short" is what your argument boils down to.

How is this reasoning different from YOLO? Doesn't sound like very rational to me.

 

[Feisbook Control]

I have the typical old school attitude towards tattoos (i.e. that they're for criminals, bikers and sailors, and should never appear on women).

Some cultures do have a tradition of tattooing, which is fine for them, but it's not a tradition in the West outside of a very small sphere, in which case it is often anti-civilisational.

Anyway, the thing I wanted to write was this. Whenever I fly from Taiwan to Australia to visit my relatives, I usually transfer flights at Singapore. From Taipei to Singapore, the flight is probably 90%+ Asian, and they go out of their way to look as middle class as possible. When I change at Singapore to fly to Melbourne, it's about 50-50 Asian/white. Of the 50% whites, I'd say a good 50% (maybe more for young people) can be described as showing too much skin, and too much of it with ink. They're also too fat, too loud, (and occasionally too drunk) and so on. I notice this generally when I am in Australia or see Australians abroad. They look, sound, and act, extremely trashy. To some extent, the outward is the inward: ugly and stupid outside equals ugly and stupid inside.

It was for other reasons, but Lee Kuan Yew once warned Australians that they would become the poor, white trash of Asia, and that thought has always remained with me. That is how Westerners with tattoos are perceived in many places.

 

[VincentVinturi]

I always find it strange when people say they don't want to get a tattoo because they're afraid they'll come to regret it later.

Life isn't that long.

Certainly not long enough for regrets about a little ink.

People act like these things last forever but you'll be fertilizer in the blink of an eye.

"Life is short" is what your argument boils down to.

How is this reasoning different from YOLO? Doesn't sound like very rational to me.

Tattoos aren't a matter of right or wrong, which is the province of objectivity, but rather a personal preference based on one's own conception of tattoos and their meaning to your life.

It's true that you only live once and it's true that life is short. So if you want to do something that's significant to you, you should do it.

What's the alternative: never take any chances, make any mistakes or do anything unique and meaningful for yourself?

That's the problem with today's man, he's unwilling to put a stake in the ground. He's holding it in his hands, eternally indecisive.

I don't regret my tattoo at all. And besides, regret is the most useless thing in the world. I'm of the Don Draper school of life: move forward.

 

[CanExPat]

Instead of getting a permanent tattoo, why not get a temporary tattoo? They are cheap, painless and most important of all, go away after a while once the novelty wears off. This should be suggested for chicks, so they don't destroy their natural beauty. It would be a relatively harmless outlet for their self destructive instincts.