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Jean Valjean

 
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In the U.S., a felony committed on an Indian reservation will often be tried in federal court rather than a state or tribal court. Therefore, there's a disproportionate number of Native Americans in federal prison. (I would imagine the penalties also tend to be stiffer than what a state court would hand out, because federal sentencing guidelines tend to be pretty harsh.)

I wonder if it's the same way in Canada, and that's why these statistics for Canadian federal prisons like Saskatchewan Penitentiary are what they are? Maybe the provincial prisons have different statistics?
 
American Indians are not that far off IQ wise from Whites - roughly 90 and I frankly assume that it would be easily 100 if you discounted all the malnourishment and drunken mothers having babies. So essentially it is a tribe that could easily find it's way in the modern world at least from a k-selected genetic reasoning.

Instead they went into a negative tailspin that does not stop. The tribes that are wealthy from the casinos also don't assist each other very much. And this is also normal - in the past one tribe brutally wiped out other tribes long before the Whites ever stepped onto American soil.

It's a shame really what happens to them, in the past Whites were to blame for many atrocities against them, but now it is mostly of their own making. (Also I might add - they were brutal warriors themselves and just lost.) They have both the means and the brains to rise out of it - the cash and White guilt-shaming (as well as plenty of positive pro Indian worldwide PR) is sufficient to create a thriving community within the US or Canada. They are a reminder for anyone of what happens to a tribe which stops thriving forward.

There are rumors out there claiming that the lost continent of Atlantis was predominantly populated by the ancestors of the North American Indians. They created a very advanced civilization and destroyed it again - all on their own. The few living in North America were actually stone-age savages compared to the civilization that their ancestors created before. But we don't know whether that is true - still who knows.
 
Que enspastic said:
Pretty similar in the Australian outback.

Alcohol is one hell of a drug for native peoples.

Autralian Aboriginie and North American Indians have almost a 25 IQ difference - the lowest in the world. That gap is not breached easily even if you apply intensive Eugenics and top-level nutrition. It would take generations for Australian natives to reach North American standards.

Thus I would treat Australian natives with far greater leniency, also enact a long-term positive Eugenics plan unless they want to stay in the shadows of human civilization forever. But all of that is not very PC, so you won't get that anytime soon.
 

Luther

Sparrow
"Also, something interesting is that in Canada a white man can't live on a reserve and if a Native woman marries a non-Native, she loses her status (tax exempt, free education, cheap gas, etc) however this doesn't apply to Native men, they can marry white bitches and move em in, injun patriarchy rules da rez: https://www.ictinc.ca/indian-act-and-wom...1-bill-c-3"

I question that source. I know it used to be like that but I believe it's changed. My girlfriend is native... she was married to a non status man and didn't lose her status. Their two kids also retain status rights. She had told me about that law before, because it affected women in her family in the past, and she also told me the law had changed.

As for my opinion of her and natives in general... Ive definitely noticed some things.
They seem to lack certain contemplative thought. They just don't think like I'm accustomed to with regular white folks.
She is very impulsive.
She has a fierce temper.
They choose to not aknowledge feelings, to a degree, and my opinion is that is where the notion of the 'stoic indian' comes from. It's definately not something I idolize though. Ignoring your feelings doesn't mean they don't exist. I think it may not be healthy, from what I've seen firsthand.

I should say that my girl is Manitoba Cree. They lived in mid to northern Manitoba. Life was hard. Winters were long. They were not a warring people, and they consider themselves compassionate compared to people native to the south of my province, the Sioux and Ojibwa, which are very warlike. My girls family warned her to watch out for those 'southern Indians' when she moved down here. The different tribes are very prejudice towards each other. They were enemies after all. There's big differences between tribes, you can't generalize too much. My opinion is that they are all less civilized than most whites... you can't cheat evolution, and a few generations ago they were living primitive lives. My girls grandma was raised Christian in a northern town but would tell her stories about the 'real indians' who would come out of the bush to steal from the townspeople and raid their fishing nets, when she was a young woman. So we're talking about like 60 years ago...

I could keep going but I'm not really on topic. I'll answer any questions anyone has.
Why am I with her?? She's a pretty good girl... tries very hard to please me. She's a freak in the sack and wants sex twice a day. The only girl I've ever met who wants sex as much or more than me. She loves to cook and it makes her happy to feed people. Understand that in the past native women did all the work, men only hunted and went to war. She was raised by her grandparents and has some of those traditional values instilled in her. When I first met her she was surprised and a little tickled to see me clean up or do dishes. She got a kick out of it.
 

Ghost Tiger

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Agastya said:
Ghost Tiger said:
There is a reserve near where I live in southwestern Ontario and I deal with aboriginals frequently. Some of them are my friends, some of them I bounce out of a strip bar. What you're seeing in that incident is "Lord of the Flies" acted out in real time. Everything Scotian said above is 100% accurate.

The problem with the MSM analysis of this situation is that they get cause and effect flipped backwards. They're trying to imply that the white man's drugs caused the red man's savagery. This is bullshit. The red man's feral state, like that of the children in "Lord of the Flies", is savage. The only factor that has ever caused the red man to be civilized is the white man's Christianity. I have a close aboriginal friend who is a former U.S. Marine and a very successful construction contractor. He hates the people that live on the reserve and he never goes there. He tells me that his grandfather taught him to love white people. He tells me that many natives lament the closure of the infamous residential schools because, for many, it was the only opportunity their children had for a Christian education. The only hope to become civilized. When my friend and I discuss the proud history of North American aboriginals (subjects like Tecumseh and the Iroquois systems of governance), my friend usually says, "My ancestors would be ashamed of my people today. My people are only shadows of who they once were. My people need Jesus."

And that's damn right. One look at that video and you KNOW that's damn right.

This is an interesting remark. So does he agree that the white man's Christianity was what saved the natives from their prior barbarism? Then what in your opinion has caused their lapse back into this barbarism? In your opinion, were they ever cured of it?

Yes he agrees. Remember, he is a former Marine so he is a faithful Christian who bleeds red, white, and blue (America!!! FUCK YEAH!!!)

What has caused their lapse back into this barbarism you ask? Why, it's elementary dear Watson. The cause is same factor that has led the white man's women down the path BACK to feral barbarism... social justice convergence... feminism... communism... atheism... anarchy. The aboriginals no longer have the option of learning Christianity from the locally surrounding white people because those white people are no longer Christians, they're merely pagan savages just like the aboriginals. Pagan savages who are obese and sport blue hair and tattoos and copious facial piercings and are addicted to alcohol and all manner of illicit drugs. The white man needs Jesus just as badly as the red man, if not more. The thing that caused the red man's lapse back into barbarism was precisely the white man's lapse. Savvy?

You asked me if the red man was ever cured of his barbarism. Was the white man?

The struggle is ongoing.
 

Luther

Sparrow
^ there may be some truth to your reasoning but clearly you're Christian and you're reaching... I'm not religious and I'm doing just fine without Jesus, thank you very much. So are the vast majority of my civilized white peers. Also, you mean to say 'atheist' not 'pagan'. Traditional aboriginal religious beliefs were pagan...
 

Leonard D Neubache

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Luther said:
^ there may be some truth to your reasoning but clearly you're Christian and you're reaching... I'm not religious and I'm doing just fine without Jesus, thank you very much. So are the vast majority of my civilized white peers. Also, you mean to say 'atheist' not 'pagan'. Traditional aboriginal religious beliefs were pagan...

Most people that drive without seatbelts are fine.

When you're talking about a society or a nation then it's simply a question of statistics, and that most people are "doing fine" doesn't mean a society is on the up and up.

I can be "doing fine" but if I don't feel my society is safe enough for me to risk pulling over and helping some random guy change a flat tire then my society is obviously not "doing fine".

That wouldn't even be a question in most Western nations 50 years ago. Today?

So no. Post Christian majority, our societies are not "doing fine".
 

Luther

Sparrow
^ I never wear my seatbelt nor have I ever hesitated to pull over and help someone having trouble... and I don't even have Jesus to protect me.
 

scotian

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Luther, "marry out, get out" is still happening on reserves across the country today: www.cbc.ca/amp/1.2736555

Also, someone mentioned that maybe the reasons that there's so many Natives in prison is because they are charged federally and get harsher sentences, in Canada its the exact opposite. Natives up here literally can get away with murder due to a court consideration called a "Gladue paper" where the judge takes into account historical racism and poverty while sentencing Native criminals. https://www.google.ca/amp/s/sec.the...tives-out-of-jail/article4296949/?service=amp

Here's a typical story of a Native getting away with killing fiur people in a drunk driving charge: http://www.ctvnews.ca/mobile/canada...healing-lodge-after-serving-1-month-1.3300680
 

MMX2010

 
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Luther said:
^ there may be some truth to your reasoning but clearly you're Christian and you're reaching... I'm not religious and I'm doing just fine without Jesus, thank you very much. So are the vast majority of my civilized white peers. Also, you mean to say 'atheist' not 'pagan'. Traditional aboriginal religious beliefs were pagan...

That's a dumb argument. And it's dumb because it makes no mathematical sense.

You state that you're doing just fine without Jesus and so are the vast majority of your civilized White peers. But that just means you're writing a number on a piece of paper and sealing it within an envelope. You know what that number is, say 87%, but you don't know what number is sealed within Ghost Tiger's envelope.

If his number is higher than yours, he is right and you are wrong, despite 87% being a relatively high number.
 

Ghost Tiger

Ostrich
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Luther said:
^ there may be some truth to your reasoning but clearly you're Christian and you're reaching... I'm not religious and I'm doing just fine without Jesus, thank you very much. So are the vast majority of my civilized white peers. Also, you mean to say 'atheist' not 'pagan'. Traditional aboriginal religious beliefs were pagan...

It's not about you snowflake.

And I meant exactly what I said. Atheists are pagans,

pa·gan
ˈpāɡən/
noun
1. a person holding religious beliefs other than those of the main world religions

Atheists are not people with no religious beliefs. They do have religious beliefs. They fanatically believe in the existence of "no god" which is just as religious as believing in "some god". I have always imagined the deity of the atheists being a stylized numeral zero. This amuses me immensely. And, in this particular instance, it's all about my amusement.

Snowflake
 

Jean Valjean

 
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Zelcorpion said:
It's a shame really what happens to them, in the past Whites were to blame for many atrocities against them, but now it is mostly of their own making. (Also I might add - they were brutal warriors themselves and just lost.) They have both the means and the brains to rise out of it - the cash and White guilt-shaming (as well as plenty of positive pro Indian worldwide PR) is sufficient to create a thriving community within the US or Canada. They are a reminder for anyone of what happens to a tribe which stops thriving forward.

Edward Romney in Living Well on Practically Nothing theorized that public assistance was ultimately what destroyed the Indians. He cautioned that it can do the same to any man who comes to rely on government handouts.

That's one reason why I've always been reluctant to go on disability, even though maybe I could qualify for it if I hired a lawyer to argue my case. I've read that most people who go on it never get off of it. Maybe some of them have other side businesses that are under the table, but I would imagine the security of getting that steady monthly check for sitting around on a couch is a significant deterrent to doing any kind of work that would result in a 1099 getting filed.

One thing I always reflect on, though, is, "If you're sitting in a corporate job working to support your wife and one kid, as well as a class of rapidly multiplying 'disadvantaged' people who live off of your tax dollars, who is the real loser in that situation?" Having a prestigious job and living in a nice neighborhood are only two measures of success. Another two measures are population expansion, and being dominant over others. But if a tribe is able to extract money from us (via white guilt or whatever other means they need to use), aren't they ones who are dominant?

It's like if there's a group of gangsters that is able to extort protection money from a neighborhood. They may not be in charge of the government, but they're still dominant within a particular area. It just happens that certain groups use white guilt rather than tommy guns and brass knuckles to shake us down for money and other privileges, but the result is the same.

The fact that a lot of them end up is prison also isn't necessarily a big deal. It's just part of their cost of doing business, like when a dominant tribe loses some of its warriors in combat, or when a gang loses some of its thugs in a shootout.
 
This thread reminds me that I have to get that Native American notch.

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