Testosterone injections

Could you elaborate on that?
Graph it on https://www.steroidplotter.com/ , 150mg Test U weekly will give much more stable serum levels than 150mg Test E split 2x e3.5d as half life is much longer. More stable T -> less E2 peaks -> less E2 sides -> less gyno, acne, shutdown etc.

Sure doctors are not prescribing it, but lots of people do TRT without a doctor and for them doing U instead of E/C seems like a better strategy. Just because doctors are retards and want to do 1000mg once every 12weeks doesn’t mean that the substance is bad or that a normally intelligent person cannot do a better protocol with the substance.

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Graph it on https://www.steroidplotter.com/ , 150mg Test U weekly will give much more stable serum levels than 150mg Test E split 2x e3.5d as half life is much longer. More stable T -> less E2 peaks -> less E2 sides -> less gyno, acne, shutdown etc.

Sure doctors are not prescribing it, but lots of people do TRT without a doctor and for them doing U instead of E/C seems like a better strategy. Just because doctors are retards and want to do 1000mg once every 12weeks doesn’t mean that the substance is bad or that a normally intelligent person cannot do a better protocol with the substance.

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Thank you. I might consider Test U since I'm prone to gyno and high E2.
 

get2choppaaa

Ostrich
Yeah I still take it. Legal, OTC, relatively small doses 5 or 6 days per week. It’s great!

Interestingly I saw an interview with Charles Poliquin (famous strength coach, arguably the best ever with gold medalists in 22 different Olympic sports) where he said Pine Extract does help with DHEA Sulfate, which while may not boost Testosterone, it does provide other anabolic/mood benefits. I kinda thought it was malarkey when I first heard about it, but there apparently is something to it beyond anecdotal experiences. Possibly your blood work will show T not particularly high/elevated, but that your DHEA Sulfate is high compared to previous baselines and this might explain no crashes in mood/labido ect.. Would be interested to see.
 
Doc got me on 200mg of Test Cyp every 14 days. I wonder if it's gonna take me to the upper physiological levels. Not sure, however, if more frequent doses would be better.
 

jarlo

Woodpecker
Orthodox
Doc got me on 200mg of Test Cyp every 14 days. I wonder if it's gonna take me to the upper physiological levels. Not sure, however, if more frequent doses would be better.
That's terrible - you're going to start feeling the symptoms of low T after 5-7 days. Either convince him to all you to inject yourself twice a week or find another doctor.
 

FactusIRX

Kingfisher
That's terrible - you're going to start feeling the symptoms of low T after 5-7 days. Either convince him to all you to inject yourself twice a week or find another doctor.
What would you recommend?

I think I'm going to go back on test. I stopped taking it for 4 months because of surgery.

My doctor won't prescribe me any because my T levels are just above the low end of normal, so I bought my own. He recommended that I do 100mg of Test C every 2 weeks, but that seems low. What are you guys running? I'm not sure I want to do this long term, so I may cycle off after a few months.
 
That's terrible - you're going to start feeling the symptoms of low T after 5-7 days. Either convince him to all you to inject yourself twice a week or find another doctor.
I already blasted a couple of years ago and learned how to pin myself, altough I trusted a mate with substances, dosages etc.

What I'm doing after researching for a while is 50mg E3.5D. Let's see how I fare with this protocol.
 

get2choppaaa

Ostrich
What would you recommend?

I think I'm going to go back on test. I stopped taking it for 4 months because of surgery.

My doctor won't prescribe me any because my T levels are just above the low end of normal, so I bought my own. He recommended that I do 100mg of Test C every 2 weeks, but that seems low. What are you guys running? I'm not sure I want to do this long term, so I may cycle off after a few months.
Do not do 100 every two weeks.

If you are going to use the drugs, go to a clinic and have them give you the standard of 200mg a week. Split it into 2 shots. I do Sunday morning and Weds night. If you need info on what to look out for/what these things cost to do out of pocked I can give some input offline from my experiences. I have a stellar doctor I go to now every 4 months for bloodwork and IF you are going to go down that path I would suggest a good doctor face to face instead of a clinic after you've got the initial prescription.

200 mg a week will put you at the high end of normal to super-physiological levels (total T somewhere around 1100 to 1200). There where you want to be. I had my last bloodwork done the morning before my afternoon shot, was right at 1204, which my doctor was good with.

Split it for estrogen management sake so you don't spike the E2.

PM with more questions if you'd like. I am not suggesting or advocating, but for my own experiences, TRT was one of the best decisions I have made regarding my own mental health/sleep/physical well being ect....
 
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Blade Runner

Ostrich
Orthodox
Interestingly I saw an interview with Charles Poliquin (famous strength coach, arguably the best ever with gold medalists in 22 different Olympic sports) where he said Pine Extract does help with DHEA Sulfate, which while may not boost Testosterone, it does provide other anabolic/mood benefits. I kinda thought it was malarkey when I first heard about it, but there apparently is something to it beyond anecdotal experiences. Possibly your blood work will show T not particularly high/elevated, but that your DHEA Sulfate is high compared to previous baselines and this might explain no crashes in mood/labido ect.. Would be interested to see.
Pine Pollen?
 

get2choppaaa

Ostrich
If you want your grapes turning into raisins, low sperm count, and other issues, shoot that T Cypionate.
I dont think you know what you are talking about.

IF you are worried about your Sperm count/take HCG. Many people still knock up their wives while on Testosterone. If someone needs the drugs for a legit medical reason whats the difference between taking T vs other drugs?

Almost ALL doctors are drug dealers of some sort. I'd rather take Test Cyp than sleep meds/SSRI's/or a litany of other drugs to deal with medical issues.

Do you have any experience with any of this or are you just chiming in to be a contrarian troll?
 

bmw633

Woodpecker
I dont think you know what you are talking about.

IF you are worried about your Sperm count/take HCG. Many people still knock up their wives while on Testosterone. If someone needs the drugs for a legit medical reason whats the difference between taking T vs other drugs?

Almost ALL doctors are drug dealers of some sort. I'd rather take Test Cyp than sleep meds/SSRI's/or a litany of other drugs to deal with medical issues.

Do you have any experience with any of this or are you just chiming in to be a contrarian troll?
Was under a doctor's care and was prescribed. Was injecting T Cypionate for ten years, quit 2 years ago. You?
 
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