Tfw No Gf - documentary about incels

Wutang

Ostrich
Gold Member
Watching this right now. The director for it definitely is someone who is aware of internet culture, judging from the memes being put to use in it - especially the older ones in the beginning of the film where a brief montage of different old memes to illustrate the way internet culture grew into what it is today.


Still watching through it but I will post more thoughts after completing more of the film.
 

Benoit

Pelican
Gold Member
It's an interesting film about alienation and social isolation among young men, the incel element is just the marketing hook.

Doesn't really have much of a story to tell, or at least it didn't really get deeply into the reasons behind why the interviewees feel outside of society, but it was good to watch a modern documentary that just let the participants talk, without trying to make them into monsters for having different views.
 

Wutang

Ostrich
Gold Member
It's an interesting film about alienation and social isolation among young men, the incel element is just the marketing hook.

Doesn't really have much of a story to tell, or at least it didn't really get deeply into the reasons behind why the interviewees feel outside of society, but it was good to watch a modern documentary that just let the participants talk, without trying to make them into monsters for having different views.
I think it's good there isn't much of a storyline. That would mean there would have to be some sort of narrative and the temptations to turn it into something like "Trump's America is breeding right wing white male domestic terrorists" or to have some sort of other moralistic finger wagging lesson. As a director there's always going to be a temptation to want to create a narrative or overarching frame and I commend the creator for not going that route.
 
I watched it and it's pretty good. As someone that identifies somewhat with them the entire incel thing is misunderstood. It's mostly guys that feel totally disconnected from society and the dating game in general. I can certainly understand what it's like to be a guy with low SMV because I am one. Or see someone from a good family and went to college seem to easily succeed in life where you do nothing but struggle.

You seemingly do everything society tells you is "right" which is actually "wrong." After a while you just go ok I'm just gonna slip into the shadows and not participate.
 

Wutang

Ostrich
Gold Member
I'm almost done with the documentary. Despite the title of the film (No Gf), the guys interviewed in it don't seem to care that much about female companionship or more specifically, their lack of it. One guy in the film is interviewed 2 years later after his first interview and in that time he had gotten big into weight lifting. He said that he's gotten more female attention as a result but that he doesn't really care about it. The other guys don't really complain much about their lack of a gf either. It's more general despair and a lack of any sort of anything to look forward to in their life that gets to them the most - similar to the millenials posting the memes about wanting to die.
 

sanbruno

Sparrow
I predict it’s going to get much worse for young men. Girls start instathotting as young as 13. I regularly see teen girls posing for obvious social media glamour shots everywhere from parks to bridges. Considering girls basically come blazing into peak physical shape at 16-18, you think they are going to want anything to do with timid high school boys when they are getting covert or even overt gestures from older, exciting guys or even pro athletes on social media platforms? There’s going to be a complete disconnect as young women increasingly feed delusions of celebrity, and validation from elite men thru social media. I was in high school pre-smartphone era, and the hottest in school were still finding ways to sleep with older men and attend 21+ parties and venues. It’s going to be a complete shitshow when they can effectively advertise themselves 24/7 and receive direct contact from men with sports cars, boats, lavish homes, etc. Young men are going to be left in the dust.
 

kel

Kingfisher
I've said it before and I'll say it again - this is where the real boogaloo is going to come from. Young men with nothing to live for just fucking snapping. It's not going to be tankies or fashies goosestepping into DC with their doctrine in hand (though, once the boogaloo gets started, these elements will appear), the real spark is just going to be young men (of no particular race, unironically) with nothing but a long, pointless dystopia to look forward to who just decide to check out and take as many middle managers with them as they can. The trickle has already started.
 

Rob Banks

Kingfisher
I don't plan on watching the documentary, but I will say that I think one of the biggest problems (more important than lack of "game" or ability to get laid) is that these men are not given the option of VOLUNTARY celibacy until marriage as a realistic option.

On top of the raw lust these young men feel, they are led to believe that they are pathetic losers if they choose voluntary celibacy (even temporarily while they wait for marriage).

Early exposure to porn, and peer pressure to talk about and engage in fornication, do not help.

Even within marriage, you should really only be having sex that does not employ contraceptive methods (including the pull-out method, blowjobs, hand jobs, etc.).

The primary purpose of sex is procreation and the secondary purpose is unification between husband and wife. The lust satisfaction and pleasure aspects are just added bonuses that God allows you to enjoy because you are doing His will by being married and procreating.
 
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Sparrow
I don't plan on watching the documentary, but I will say that I think one of the biggest problems (more important than lack of "game" or ability to get laid) is that these men are not given the option of VOLUNTARY celibacy until marriage as a realistic option.

On top of the raw lust these young men feel, they are led to believe that they are pathetic losers if they choose voluntary celibacy (even temporarily while they wait for marriage).

Early exposure to porn, and peer pressure to talk about and engage in fornication, do not help.
This is very correct. So many men are taught they their value is whatever want it to be. You are only not a loser if women are having sex with you, even if you make 500K a year, or are a brain surgeon, or created a business that employs thousands, etc, etc, etc. Young men feel that their value is how many girls that hook up with. I know this, because I used to think like that. Also the face that constant sex and sexuality is thrown in their faces only compounds the issue. Not just porn, but insta thots, and even the girls they know in real life. Our culture is obsessed with sex, and frankly, it's a big waste of time at this point. You could have sex with a new woman every weekend and it wouldn't be enough because Dan Bilzerian has a gaggle of hookers around him at all times.
 
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