The 9/11 Thread

Eddie Winslow

Kingfisher
Gold Member
I remember watching the second plane hit on live TV while in between classes in the 9th grade. At that point we knew someone had done it on purpose. I knew my dad was OK, but I still shared some sense of panic for my friends classmates who couldn't get in touch with their parents. Ultimately, many of them had to suffer the hours and days afterwards while waiting on the phone call that would never come. When all was said and done, well over 25 lives were lost in my town.

Although I am often upset with the state of race, religious, gender, and political relations in my country, I am intensely proud of my country on September 11th. I am also intensely proud of my people, particularly those of New York and New Jersey, so many who selflessly helped complete strangers and their families for the days and months afterwards. It was beautiful to see the empathy American people had for one another. It wasn't simply putting an American flag filter over one's profile picture, it really putting our differences aside and showing TRUE empathy and compassion. Real heroes were made that day. I will never forget what happened, and I will never forget the brave police officers, firemen, and other responders who gave their lives. These men and women walked into to a burning skyscraper that had just been struck by a damn airplane to go save people they didn't know. Take a moment to let that sink in.

I'm watching a televised memorial service right now that alphabetically announces the names of every life lost that day. After more than two hours, they are only on letter L. For those here who were affected by any of the attacks on 9/11/2001, I am so sorry for your loss. For those who were not affected, I hope you take a moment of gratitude today for yourself and your loved ones.

Please share your 9/11 thoughts and memories here - please keep it respectful.
 

Sp5

 
Banned
RE: 9/11 Memorial Thread

Always remember that Bush classified the evidence of Saudi government support for the hijackers in 2002, and after 15 years of misdirection and bloody wars, the facts were just revealed a few weeks ago - without the results of the follow up investigation.

This in the country that has the best electronic surveillance system in the world, as revealed by Snowden. We don't know know what the Saudis were talking about?
 

Vaun

Hummingbird
Gold Member
RE: 9/11 Memorial Thread

I am taking my daughter to the memorial today. Its time I tell her at 9 years old. She has to see the gravity of what this event means, and how its changed the world. I dont care what her mom says, she has to learn about it, and today it a good day for that. We are watching the memorial now as well.

On that day I was 25 and running a construction business. It was a typical Tuesday morning, and I was running a job site, just getting started for the day. Listening to Howard Stern. He started to describe what was happening, and so I left the crew and told people they could go home if they had to. This was right after the towers were struck. I went back to my house and flipped on the TV. Watched everything come down and sobbed like a baby. I went down to ground zero to view it, but it was blocked off. Not long after I moved here to rebuild this city.

Today marks a big turning point here. Ground Zero appears to by mostly rebuilt. The area is reborn. Massive companies are moving back, and new massive companies are making it their HQ.
 

wi30

Ostrich
Gold Member
RE: 9/11 Memorial Thread

Dupe. This thread topic comes up every year, and it inevitably turns into a conspiracy debate.

I truly feel for those who lost friends in family in the attacks, but expecting this thread to stay respectful is the equivalent of bringing up race vs. IQ and expecting it to not turn into a race thread.
 

Foolsgo1d

Peacock
RE: 9/11 Memorial Thread

It is quite surreal this event took us on the path we're on now. I remember watching after college at the age of 18 and seeing the second tower come down.

I am 31 now, 32 soon. It has pretty much defined my generation.

Years later you can tell the difference in our countries through its art (movies, film books etc).
 

TheFinalEpic

Pelican
Catholic
Gold Member
RE: 9/11 Memorial Thread

I remember I was in Second grade, and for 3 days we did absolutely nothing but watch the news in class. Hard to believe it's been 15 years already since this happened. Whether we like it or not, it changed everything.
 

Mushroom

Sparrow
Gold Member
RE: 9/11 Memorial Thread

I can never forget that day, I went to get my drivers license as soon as the DMV opened that morning. I had waited until I was 17 to get my license. I was incredibly excited to finally drive to school myself for the first time.

I arrived at the school and the gate to the parking lot was shut and locked. An incredibly odd thing at 10:30am on a Tuesday. I had a huge brick of a cell phone and called the school, I was told the school was in lockdown due to a potential terrorist attack, but they could send out the school deputy (we had a police officer on staff) to unlock the gate and escort me to my class if I wanted to. I have no idea why I agreed to that, in retrospect, I should have just gone home.

I was escorted by the officer to my English class and remember watching that footage over and over with my classmates. We all felt incredibly lost and awestruck by the uncertainty of it all. No one knew what was going to happen next. I think it was only an hour or two later and all the students were sent home.

It's unfortunate that the way we felt in those weeks following 9/11, the fear that a terrorist attack could happen anywhere at any moment... we believed it was something we'd overcome and it was only temporary until we defeated our enemies. Now look at us today, that fear is part of our everyday lives.
 

Thersites

Kingfisher
RE: 9/11 Memorial Thread

I was freshman in high school at the time of the attacks. When I heard the news of the first tower being hit, I walk outside toward the football field. The school was situated on hill with the NYC skyline in the distance. As push upon door to go outside, I turn toward the skyline and saw the smoke rising from the first tower. Announcement of loudspeaker told the students to report to there classroom. From there we heard the news of second tower being hit and collapse from the tv screens of out classrooms. Days that follow, we heard who died and lived.

Its one of those moments, that sticks in your mind no matter how many rewrites your brain puts it through. The moment where the world became a dangerous place for many. It scar that still reside for many in the population of the Tri-State area.
 

Parzival

Ostrich
RE: 9/11 Memorial Thread

I was just coming back from school and it was all over on TV and I did know, this is war. This change something big and this is a moment that will become historical and that the USA will do something big. Then after everyone realised what was going on we had a 5 minute silence, what is some way strange because I'm German and not american. I wonder if the USA ever hold up a 5 minute silence for terror attacks in other countries.

What also changed was the image of the USA itself, from the land of opportunities it did become a country that wage war for big companies and has its fingers everywhere.
 

Adonis

Pelican
Gold Member
RE: 9/11 Memorial Thread

I was on leave and at my best friend's funeral in a suburb of South Philly. He was sort of like the little AMOG of our town and his death was a big shock to us all, even to the older generation. He had overdosed on Xanax and Methaqualone on Thursday the 7th and the service commenced at 0800 on Tuesday the 11th. Once everything was said and done we met up at a local restaurant to have one last toast in his honor. A dozen or so people were outside smoking and they were all asking me if I had to go back to my ship since we had been attacked. Naturally I said "what the fuck are you talking about" and they said "yea man someone crashed a bunch of planes into the WTC and the Pentagon".

So I ran inside and joined the crowd that was glued to the news. They had the little picture-in-picture continuously showing the impacts/collapse while the anchors speculated on events. Watching those planes impact Ive never felt more confused in my life. Rage, fear, doubt, suspicion. One of my friends' dad put a beer in my hand and pulled me into a conversation about who did it. We knew right off the bat it wasn't the Red Army Faction or the Weather Underground. I knew that my leave was cancelled so I called my command to ask them what I should do. I asked them, someone naively, if I should go to DC or NYC to assist them and was told "absolutely not, stay put". There was zero transportation. Flights, trains, busses, you name it, it was all shut down. So I had to sit and wait. Like everyone else, my anger grew.

My old house was under the flight path for PHL, and the silence crept me out more than anything. I was due to come back on Friday the 14th and by then things had begun operating again so I was able to catch a flight out of BWI, and I have never seen since such visible fear and paranoia on people's faces. You could have heard a pin drop it was so quiet. No one talked to anyone else, everyone clutched their bags and tried not to be terrified of the NG soldiers.

As for what happened in the aftermath, that is for a different thread.
 

Rhyme or Reason

 
Banned
RE: 9/11 Memorial Thread

Foolsgo1d said:
It is quite surreal this event took us on the path we're on now. I remember watching after college at the age of 18 and seeing the second tower come down.

I am 31 now, 32 soon. It has pretty much defined my generation.

Years later you can tell the difference in our countries through its art (movies, film books etc).

Absolutely. America has lost the last vestiges of it's innocence and sense of humor since then. Remember movies from the 90's, like Austin Powers and Kingpin?


Yeah, it hasn't been the same.


The psychology of the entire country has since descended into a dark place it can't seem to get out of. Movies these days for the most part either appeal to the dark "gritty realism" factor or the complete opposite, pie in the sky superhero horseshit.
 

HighSpeed_LowDrag

Ostrich
Gold Member
RE: 9/11 Memorial Thread

I was nine at the time. I don't remember much of that day.

I do remember that I first heard about it on the radio as my mother was driving me to school. When we got there, we waited a half-day with no classes and then got told to go home. The only other thing that I remember was that my mother (many years later) told me she watched United 175 strike the South Tower live on CNN.
 

Veloce

Crow
Gold Member
RE: 9/11 Memorial Thread

Red_Pillage said:
Foolsgo1d said:
It is quite surreal this event took us on the path we're on now. I remember watching after college at the age of 18 and seeing the second tower come down.

I am 31 now, 32 soon. It has pretty much defined my generation.

Years later you can tell the difference in our countries through its art (movies, film books etc).

Absolutely. America has lost the last vestiges of it's innocence and sense of humor since then. Remember movies from the 90's, like Austin Powers and Kingpin?


Yeah, it hasn't been the same.


The psychology of the entire country has since descended into a dark place it can't seem to get out of. Movies these days for the most part either appeal to the dark "gritty realism" factor or the complete opposite, pie in the sky superhero horseshit.

Been saying this for a while. I think a lot of people have forgotten what life was like pre-9/11. Even grunge music, which was so edgy and sullen seems downright sunny and innocent by comparison.

I had just turned 20 and one of the owners of the cafe where I worked started talking about me and all men my age mobilizing for war. She was an ignorant old cunt that fell right into the neocon trap.

I didn't become a serious skeptic or give any of it much thought until about 2005 or so until someone opened my eyes. I always knew something was wrong and wondered why we were headed to Iraq.

In retrospect we can look at the last 16 years as a major operation by the puppeteers at the top as a blatant display of how fearless they are, how grossly they disregard the common man, how utterly disgusting and subhuman they are in their quest for power and dominance. In my life before 9/11 I never imagined that such people existed to that extent.
 

brick tamland

Kingfisher
RE: 9/11 Memorial Thread

I was 21 at university and in between classes that day I was browsing a sports forum and noticed a thread topic about planes hitting the towers. That really confused me and I thought there had been an accident. That is how i first found out about 911. I knew something big had happened because this had always been a pretty sedate forum but this thread had thousands of comments in a matter of a few minutes. I'll always remember the following day I said to a friend: 'The world will never be the same again'.

Finding out as the years have gone on, thanks to some intrepid and courageous people, about what happened that day, and why 911 happened, and who made it happen, made me recognise tyranny for the first time.

If I was naive about power before 911, I am no longer.
 

Mr. D

Pelican
Gold Member
RE: 9/11 Memorial Thread

I got my drivers license on that day... And things went to shit rapidly after that. The loss of the pre-2001 optimism, etc... (and this was me living in fucking Finland)
 

Foolsgo1d

Peacock
RE: 9/11 Memorial Thread

Red_Pillage said:
Foolsgo1d said:
It is quite surreal this event took us on the path we're on now. I remember watching after college at the age of 18 and seeing the second tower come down.

I am 31 now, 32 soon. It has pretty much defined my generation.

Years later you can tell the difference in our countries through its art (movies, film books etc).

Absolutely. America has lost the last vestiges of it's innocence and sense of humor since then. Remember movies from the 90's, like Austin Powers and Kingpin?


Yeah, it hasn't been the same.


The psychology of the entire country has since descended into a dark place it can't seem to get out of. Movies these days for the most part either appeal to the dark "gritty realism" factor or the complete opposite, pie in the sky superhero horseshit.

Superhero movies became progressively different in content. Refined ultra violence but toned down enough for PG13 rating.

War movies, action movies. In your face blood curdling violence and now we have ISIS glorifying the HD execution porn.

Like porn this stuff affects the mind and we have seen an uptick in its glorification since 9/11.
 

Lizard King

Pelican
RE: 9/11 Memorial Thread

I finished work early that day. I went to meet my girlfriend at her mother's and the news was on TV. I have relatives that live in Manhattan so I was concerned. I had visited three years previously and they took me to the bar at the top of one of the towers. I called my mum and spoke briefly, later that day she told me everyone was alright, and I suppose I forgot about it completely. I remember being pleased about the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, I didn't know any better, I'll leave it at that.
 

Pride male

Hummingbird
RE: 9/11 Memorial Thread

I dont undertand why the elite needs false flags to go to war. Do they really need something as drastic as 9 11? Cant they just be like, 'we are going to fuck up Saddam because he is threatening our economic interests'? But that is democracy, you need people's consent.
 

TigerMandingo

 
Banned
RE: 9/11 Memorial Thread

Pride male said:
I dont undertand why the elite needs false flags to go to war. Do they really need something as drastic as 9 11? Cant they just be like, 'we are going to fuck up Saddam because he is threatening our economic interests'? But that is democracy, you need people's consent.

“Why, of course, the people don’t want war. Why would some poor slob on a farm want to risk his life in a war when the best that he can get out of it is to come back to his farm in one piece. Naturally, the common people don’t want war; neither in Russia nor in England nor in America, nor for that matter in Germany. That is understood. But, after all, it is the leaders of the country who determine the policy and it is always a simple matter to drag the people along, whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship…

Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism and exposing the country to danger. It works the same way in any country.”

- Hermann Goering
 
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