The ADL has declared me your leader of misogyny and white supremacy

Armenia is one of the principal origins of the white/European race.

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The white people in the Armenian area migrated south and most likely became the Indus Valley, Sumerian, Minoan and ultimately Egyptian population.

https://www.nature.com/articles/srep40338
Our study has identified the Caucasus refugium as the likely source for the J1 and J2 haplogroups that now dominate Southwest Asia, and previously appeared to mark the Neolithic Revolution’s expansion into Europe39. Yet, haplogroups J1 and J2 are distinctly lacking in the earlier Yamnaya samples.

The geographic separation of modern J haplogroups in Southwest Asia, and the prevalence of J2 but not J1 in the expansion into Europe is striking given their close origins39,40.

J2 = Armenian, Persian, Minoan, Greek

J1 = Jewish, Arab


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Our dear jewish friends in SPLC are therefore incorrect.

Roosh being Iranian/Armenian, therefore likely high in J2, is indeed a white European, while jews are not.
 

Going strong

Crow
Orthodox Inquirer
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Also, why are many people in the media saying that "Nazis" hate or would hate on Roosh because he's (part) Iranian? I mean, considering as it is purported by Historians that Nazis had a soft spot for Iranians. And isn't Aryanism symbolized by the following scripture, from the Darius the Great's wall in Naqshe-e-Rostam?

I am Darius, the great king, the king of kings
The king of many countries and many people
The king of this expansive land,
The son of Wishtaspa of Achaemenid,
Persian, the son of a Persian,
'Aryan', from the Aryan race


http://www.cais-soas.com/CAIS/Languages/aryan/inscription_of_dariush_grt_rstm.htm

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As to Ahmadinejad, he looks White to me (unless you darken him with Photoshop, which his enemies would do); he actually looks like Sarkozy's half-brother (and Sarkozy is Hungaro-Franco-Greek) .

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I mean, it's ridiculous to consider that people with middle-east or Mediterranean blood are not White.
 
Armenia is also where the biblical myth of the flood came from.

Mount Ararat is in Armenia:

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It's important when both jews and pagans go on about "muh jewish myth".

No, the bible describes non-jewish history. Egypt, Babylon, Sumer and Armenia. Peopled by J2 people, who were original Europeans.

Look at the source of the rivers Tigris and Euphrates!

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The originate in the mountains of Armenia, the river Hazar, now Turkey, but back then it wasn't.

This shows it better:

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See how close the source of both Tigris and Euphrates is to Armenia and Mount Ararat?

The ancestors of the non-semittic Sumerians sailed down the Tigris and Euphrates and founded their civilization, then onwards to India and up the Indus Valley:

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[sperg out]
 

Bastard Sword

 
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nomadbrah said:
Armenia is one of the principal origins of the white/European race.

1491341223529.png


The white people in the Armenian area migrated south and most likely became the Indus Valley, Sumerian, Minoan and ultimately Egyptian population.

https://www.nature.com/articles/srep40338
Our study has identified the Caucasus refugium as the likely source for the J1 and J2 haplogroups that now dominate Southwest Asia, and previously appeared to mark the Neolithic Revolution’s expansion into Europe39. Yet, haplogroups J1 and J2 are distinctly lacking in the earlier Yamnaya samples.

The geographic separation of modern J haplogroups in Southwest Asia, and the prevalence of J2 but not J1 in the expansion into Europe is striking given their close origins39,40.

J2 = Armenian, Persian, Minoan, Greek

J1 = Jewish, Arab


800px-J2-Y-DNA-Haplogroup-Map-J2-M172-Map-J2-Haplogrubu-Haritasi-v3.png


Our dear jewish friends in SPLC are therefore incorrect.

Roosh being Iranian/Armenian, therefore likely high in J2, is indeed a white European, while jews are not.

Wait, what? Iranians like this guy are white:
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but a Jew who looks like this is not?

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I don't know about you, but this science doesn't sound quite right to me...

If your "race" includes everyone from snow-white Norwegians to incredibly brown Iranians and North Indians, maybe it's not a very good distinguishing characteristic to begin with. It would be like if all darker-skinned Indonesians, Indians, and Arabs were considered "black". These are just absurdly broad terms that completely fail to accurately depict groups of people.

If Ahmedinejad is white, then so is most of the male population of the Middle East, North Africa, and North India. Hell my father looks whiter than him and he is from South India.

What's even more hilarious is that people from the first two categories are swarming Europe -- are you seriously claiming that all these migrants are white?

The only reason Roosh is given honorary whiteness by certain posters on the forum is because he agrees with them ideologically and promotes their cause -- there are still many, many right-wingers and alt-righters who despise Iran and Iranians and would never ever consider them to be white.
 
Not all Iranians are white.

There are many subgroups in Iran. The original persians were invaded by arabs, mongolians and turks. There are turks, kurds, central asians, afghans, arabs. Achmadjinedad clearly has a lot of central asian heritage.

The average (upper class) Iranian has a distinct look though. Check out the Rich Kids of Teheran, not that different looking from Sicilians or Sardinians or Greeks.

Roosh is clearly a European looking Armenian/Persian. It's not rocket science.

It doesn't really matter though, because almost all Europeans recognize actual persians (not all iranians) as belonging to their family albeit a distant cousing. Not so with arabs and jews.
 
Bastard Sword said:
If your "race" includes everyone from snow-white Norwegians to incredibly brown Iranians and North Indians, maybe it's not a very good distinguishing characteristic to begin with. It would be like if all darker-skinned Indonesians, Indians, and Arabs were considered "black". These are just absurdly broad terms that completely fail to accurately depict groups of people.

You should do some research into physical antrophology.

Skin color has never been used as a determinant of race. It's all about skull proportions. Brow ridges, forehead, chin, eye sockets, jaw, nose.
 

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nomadbrah said:
Not all Iranians are white.

There are many subgroups in Iran. The original persians were invaded by arabs, mongolians and turks. There are turks, kurds, central asians, afghans, arabs. Achmadjinedad clearly has a lot of central asian heritage.

The average (upper class) Iranian has a distinct look though. Check out the Rich Kids of Teheran, not that different looking from Sicilians or Sardinians or Greeks.

Roosh is clearly a European looking Armenian/Persian. It's not rocket science.

It doesn't really matter though, because almost all Europeans recognize actual persians (not all iranians) as belonging to their family albeit a distant cousing. Not so with arabs and jews.

???

So Ahmedinejad -- who no one in America would consider white at first glance -- is white (he's the president, he definitely belongs to the upper class), but an Arab Muslim like Bashar al-Assad (who is incredibly pale/has blue eyes) is not?

It's like saying that a Congolese, a South Indian, and a Papua New Guinean all belong to the same category because they're dark skinned, and are completely different from lighter skinned Ethiopians or North Indians. What's more it suggests that light skinned people within one group (Persians, Indians, what have you), are a different "race" from darker skinned people from the group.

This is retarded level reasoning when you consider that even within families, people can look completely different. My father is 100% South Indian, but is extremely light skinned and generally passes for being Italian or Levantine Arab. My mother is slightly darker but also could pass for several other ethnicities. I on the other hand am very dark skinned. That doesn't make me a different "race" from my own parents, it's just a meaningless cosmetic difference.

All in all certain concepts of race are pretty stupid -- sure one could argue that a Norwegian and an Australian aboriginal are racially different, but trying to claim that "Iranians are white" or "X group is non-white" is a nonsensical way of thinking. The fact that there's this much debate over the subject just proves my point. No one is debating that Roosh is Iranian, but if different factions within the alt-right are debating whether he is or isn't white, maybe that's a stupid way of categorizing things?

The ADL actually makes a legitimate point with this because there are plenty of Stormfronters and others who see Roosh's ancestry as being more important than his conservative messaging -- to them he's just another brown immigrant stealing their jobs and banging their women. It becomes awkward sharing ideological ground with such people, as I'm sure he's found out.
 
Bastard Sword said:
So Ahmedinejad -- who no one in America would consider white at first glance -- is white (he's the president, he definitely belongs to the upper class), but an Arab Muslim like Bashar al-Assad (who is incredibly pale/has blue eyes) is not?

Dude, you're seemingly unable to read.

I specifically said Achmeddjinnnedad was not full white, he is some kind of central asian/white/arab mix, which is why he looks sort of mestizo (white/indian).

As for Bashar, you miss the mark, I've been calling Bashar Al Assad white (even with germanic features) in all the threads about him.

Bashar is not an arab though, he is a Levantine Alawitte, and if you read my posts on the subject, then you'd have read that Alawittes are in reality crypto Christians, who have a distinctly different genetic heritage than muslim arabs, due to not intermarrying.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alawites#Genetics
A 2006 study concluded that Alawites of Adana regions had 33% of Haplogroup R1b, 2% of Haplogroup R1a, 1% of Haplogroup T-M184,[139] which could probably link them to the Hurrians. Another study in 2009 founded that Alawites had 26.7% of Haplogroup J-M267.[140]

R1b haplogroup is Indo-European, mostly found in Iberia today.

The Israelis like to lie about Lebanese and Syrians to make it out like they're enemies of the West, while they are friends, when in reality the Lebanese and Syrian christians are Europeans.
 
Bastard Sword said:
It's like saying that a Congolese, a South Indian, and a Papua New Guinean all belong to the same category because they're dark skinned, and are completely different from lighter skinned Ethiopians or North Indians. What's more it suggests that light skinned people within one group (Persians, Indians, what have you), are a different "race" from darker skinned people from the group.

You really don't read what I write do you.

No one serious in antrophology have ever used skin color as classification.

Traditional antrophology put northern indians in the same greater caucasian group.
 

Bazzwaldo

Woodpecker
Typical virtue signalling from a bunch of hypocrites, Roosh an anti-Semitic white supremacist my arse
It’s the height of arrogance of them to accuse a man of that which they perfected over the last 100 years, one only has to look at the recent Nation State Law they voted in last month making apartheid vogue again to know what supremacists look and sound like
The only thing they got right was he’s a leader
 

Bastard Sword

 
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Sure — does that mean North Indians have anything in common culturally with Norwegians? Does that mean they look similar, or have similar attributes to Western Europeans? North Indian culture is significantly more similar in values and practices to either China or Arab culture than it is to anyone European.

There may be some ancient linguistic and slight genetic connection between North Indians, Iranians, and Europeans, but putting them in the same group is nonsensical. What’s more, any system that would do so should not be taken seriously.

It’s a valid issue that there are members of the right who never would have wanted Roosh to have lived in America and will never consider him white.
 

jordypip23

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Gold Member
Bastard Sword said:
It’s a valid issue that there are members of the right who never would have wanted Roosh to have lived in America and will never consider him white.

At the end of the day it's all kind of relative & contextual. In the early 1900's there were WASP folks in the USA that were not thrilled about the Irish, Italians, Poles, etc. entering the country. These type of distinctions seem virtually non-existent today by comparison.
 

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jordypip23 said:
Bastard Sword said:
It’s a valid issue that there are members of the right who never would have wanted Roosh to have lived in America and will never consider him white.

At the end of the day it's all kind of relative & contextual. In the early 1900's there were WASP folks in the USA that were not thrilled about the Irish, Italians & Poles entering the country. These type of distinctions seem virtually non-existent today by comparison.

I know -- point I'm making is that these racial "classifications" shouldn't be used to draw any conclusions. In the 1780's, WASP settlers in America didn't consider Germans to be white -- Benjamin Franklin despised them. In the 1800's, native born white Americans didn't consider Irish or Italians to be white. In the early 1900's, Eastern Europeans and Jews weren't considered to be white -- immigration from their parts of the world was severely curtailed. Now there's argument as to whether or not Persians and North Indians (lol) should be considered white. If your "race" includes everyone from Norwegians to Punjabis, it probably isn't a good way of framing human groups or looking at society.

Claiming that Iranians or North Indians are white is autism. They may look superficially similar to Europeans and speak languages that share a common root with English or German, but they still look very different and come from a completely different context. It's like saying that South Indians and Australian aboriginals belong the same "race" (sometimes similar looks, apparent similarities between Dravidian languages and aboriginal languages) -- despite the fact that they have nothing else in common.

It's just a stupid way of categorizing people, nothing more and nothing less. If one camp of white nationalists claims that Roosh is white and another doesn't, maybe it's a bullshit category with only limited usefulness in this day and age.
 
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