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<blockquote data-quote="Bastard Sword" data-source="post: 1206368" data-attributes="member: 14350">??? So Ahmedinejad -- who no one in America would consider white at first glance -- is white (he's the president, he definitely belongs to the upper class), but an Arab Muslim like Bashar al-Assad (who is incredibly pale/has blue eyes) is not? It's like saying that a Congolese, a South Indian, and a Papua New Guinean all belong to the same category because they're dark skinned, and are completely different from lighter skinned Ethiopians or North Indians. What's more it suggests that light skinned people within one group (Persians, Indians, what have you), are a different &quot;race&quot; from darker skinned people from the group. This is retarded level reasoning when you consider that even within families, people can look completely different. My father is 100% South Indian, but is extremely light skinned and generally passes for being Italian or Levantine Arab. My mother is slightly darker but also could pass for several other ethnicities. I on the other hand am very dark skinned. That doesn't make me a different &quot;race&quot; from my own parents, it's just a meaningless cosmetic difference. All in all certain concepts of race are pretty stupid -- sure one could argue that a Norwegian and an Australian aboriginal are racially different, but trying to claim that &quot;Iranians are white&quot; or &quot;X group is non-white&quot; is a nonsensical way of thinking. The fact that there's this much debate over the subject just proves my point. No one is debating that Roosh is Iranian, but if different factions within the alt-right are debating whether he is or isn't white, maybe that's a stupid way of categorizing things?The ADL actually makes a legitimate point with this because there are plenty of Stormfronters and others who see Roosh's ancestry as being more important than his conservative messaging -- to them he's just another brown immigrant stealing their jobs and banging their women. It becomes awkward sharing ideological ground with such people, as I'm sure he's found out.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Bastard Sword, post: 1206368, member: 14350"] ??? So Ahmedinejad -- who no one in America would consider white at first glance -- is white (he's the president, he definitely belongs to the upper class), but an Arab Muslim like Bashar al-Assad (who is incredibly pale/has blue eyes) is not? It's like saying that a Congolese, a South Indian, and a Papua New Guinean all belong to the same category because they're dark skinned, and are completely different from lighter skinned Ethiopians or North Indians. What's more it suggests that light skinned people within one group (Persians, Indians, what have you), are a different "race" from darker skinned people from the group. This is retarded level reasoning when you consider that even within families, people can look completely different. My father is 100% South Indian, but is extremely light skinned and generally passes for being Italian or Levantine Arab. My mother is slightly darker but also could pass for several other ethnicities. I on the other hand am very dark skinned. That doesn't make me a different "race" from my own parents, it's just a meaningless cosmetic difference. All in all certain concepts of race are pretty stupid -- sure one could argue that a Norwegian and an Australian aboriginal are racially different, but trying to claim that "Iranians are white" or "X group is non-white" is a nonsensical way of thinking. The fact that there's this much debate over the subject just proves my point. No one is debating that Roosh is Iranian, but if different factions within the alt-right are debating whether he is or isn't white, maybe that's a stupid way of categorizing things? The ADL actually makes a legitimate point with this because there are plenty of Stormfronters and others who see Roosh's ancestry as being more important than his conservative messaging -- to them he's just another brown immigrant stealing their jobs and banging their women. It becomes awkward sharing ideological ground with such people, as I'm sure he's found out. [/QUOTE]

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