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<blockquote data-quote="Bastard Sword" data-source="post: 1206375" data-attributes="member: 14350">I know -- point I'm making is that these racial &quot;classifications&quot; shouldn't be used to draw any conclusions. In the 1780's, WASP settlers in America didn't consider Germans to be white -- Benjamin Franklin despised them. In the 1800's, native born white Americans didn't consider Irish or Italians to be white. In the early 1900's, Eastern Europeans and Jews weren't considered to be white -- immigration from their parts of the world was severely curtailed. Now there's argument as to whether or not Persians and North Indians (lol) should be considered white. If your &quot;race&quot; includes everyone from Norwegians to Punjabis, it probably isn't a good way of framing human groups or looking at society. Claiming that Iranians or North Indians are white is autism. They may look superficially similar to Europeans and speak languages that share a common root with English or German, but they still look very different and come from a completely different context. It's like saying that South Indians and Australian aboriginals belong the same &quot;race&quot; (sometimes similar looks, apparent similarities between Dravidian languages and aboriginal languages) -- despite the fact that they have nothing else in common. It's just a stupid way of categorizing people, nothing more and nothing less. If one camp of white nationalists claims that Roosh is white and another doesn't, maybe it's a bullshit category with only limited usefulness in this day and age.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Bastard Sword, post: 1206375, member: 14350"] I know -- point I'm making is that these racial "classifications" shouldn't be used to draw any conclusions. In the 1780's, WASP settlers in America didn't consider Germans to be white -- Benjamin Franklin despised them. In the 1800's, native born white Americans didn't consider Irish or Italians to be white. In the early 1900's, Eastern Europeans and Jews weren't considered to be white -- immigration from their parts of the world was severely curtailed. Now there's argument as to whether or not Persians and North Indians (lol) should be considered white. If your "race" includes everyone from Norwegians to Punjabis, it probably isn't a good way of framing human groups or looking at society. Claiming that Iranians or North Indians are white is autism. They may look superficially similar to Europeans and speak languages that share a common root with English or German, but they still look very different and come from a completely different context. It's like saying that South Indians and Australian aboriginals belong the same "race" (sometimes similar looks, apparent similarities between Dravidian languages and aboriginal languages) -- despite the fact that they have nothing else in common. It's just a stupid way of categorizing people, nothing more and nothing less. If one camp of white nationalists claims that Roosh is white and another doesn't, maybe it's a bullshit category with only limited usefulness in this day and age. [/QUOTE]

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