The Afghanistan Conflict Thread

kel

Ostrich
This is all well-covered ground, but a good article about what Afghanistan signals about the military and the totalstate at large by a guy who used to have a good twitter:

 

911

Peacock
Gold Member
Yeah, look up Operation Mockingbird then watch this and tell me China doesn't have serious influence over the US. People were saying Biden was owned by China, it seems more complicated than that, but...



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This quote from the NYT that Falun Gung cult member and glowie Chris Chappell is panning here is actually spot on. China today is much less repressive than the average western country, that is an absolute truth. Most of the freedom they do repress can be qualified as negative liberties, shutting down feminists, homos, restricting videogame and porn addiction, banning dystopian films, tattoos and censoring mind-rotting effete boy band pop.

Also China doesn't even have 1/100th the influence or control over the US political system and MSM that Israel and the local zionists have, not one congressman, major corporation or media outlet is not completely under their grip, but of course Chappell will never go there.
 

get2choppaaa

Ostrich
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This quote from the NYT that Falun Gung cult member and glowie Chris Chappell is panning here is actually spot on. China today is much less repressive than the average western country, that is an absolute truth. Most of the freedom they do repress can be qualified as negative liberties, shutting down feminists, homos, restricting videogame and porn addiction, banning dystopian films, tattoos and censoring mind-rotting effete boy band pop.

Also China doesn't even have 1/100th the influence or control over the US political system and MSM that Israel and the local zionists have, not one congressman, major corporation or media outlet is not completely under their grip, but of course Chappell will never go there.
I don't agree about china being less repressive.

While i have not been, my company has a sister company there and my boss goes there regularly. Head of the China branch comes here yearly and we have meetings. It is more repressive and they do not even have basic freedom of speech or discovery through the internet.

China branch head was here when there was a taiwanese protestor shot... When i asked him he said "i had no idea about this, when did this happen" then we pulled up the news and he said "oh in China we wouldnt be allowed to share this information" and moved on as though it was just understood.
 

YoungColonial27

Robin
Orthodox
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This quote from the NYT that Falun Gung cult member and glowie Chris Chappell is panning here is actually spot on. China today is much less repressive than the average western country, that is an absolute truth. Most of the freedom they do repress can be qualified as negative liberties, shutting down feminists, homos, restricting videogame and porn addiction, banning dystopian films, tattoos and censoring mind-rotting effete boy band pop.

Also China doesn't even have 1/100th the influence or control over the US political system and MSM that Israel and the local zionists have, not one congressman, major corporation or media outlet is not completely under their grip, but of course Chappell will never go there.
While I agree it's authoritarianism for a good reason, and that any sane country would follow in their footsteps, that does not make those things 'negative liberties'. Liberty is liberty, for good or ill. Fullstop. The worst authoritarianism is that perpetuated by those who believe it good, because at least the greed of robber barons may sleep, but for those whose evil does not harm their conscience, communists, satanists and other cults, their evil will never rest.

Is China protecting it's citizens from the Globohomos? Yes absolutely, the Globohomos are designing their weapons specifically as disposable assets, this video of a feminist being shut down by a Muslim shows you that -
The reason being, that after the Communist takeover, the useful idiots will get the bullet too, as people who have actually experienced Communism such as Vee have explained again and again.

Furthermore, I don't think banning the Bible for Chinese citizens, and rewriting it so it follows communist propaganda can be called liberty. Can you criticise the Jews there, and argue about the Holocaust? Yes, because these things don't harm the communist party bottomline.

Also, the screenshot you took is of something that in the video Chris disproves. There are videos of people in China being beaten for going outside, having tags put on their doors so the authorities know if they've gone outside etc. If you think this doesn't constitute proper evidence, please explain why, but so far the only people I've seen criticising China Uncensored on youtube, were proven to be working for the CCP. Right now, I have no access to anyone criticising their content that I can trust. Are you sure you aren't letting your bias get the better of you?

Chris being a glowie is a pretty old joke too, while that might be because it's true, I haven't seen any actual evidence of that. It also doesn't change the fact that on America Uncovered he's proven to be an actual freethinker, and not an SJW, which means if he really is avoiding the Jewish question that's not because he likes Jews, but because he knows he couldn't get away with it.
 

Easy_C

Peacock
If a conventional army like the Russians or Chinese squared off in a neutral area with the US it would get demolished... Look at how quickly Iraq (5 th biggest army in the world) was smashed. The USA is not going to invade Iran (worse than AFG as far as terrain) nor China not Russia.
To be fair that was twenty years ago. Furthermore, thanks to our greatest ally, the tech gap is no longer in our favor and China has front line military hardware which is at least on par with ours as well as the ability to destroy our satellite networks within a matter of hours. And the US is vastly more dependent on satellite internet than are Russia or China
 

Pavel

Robin
Orthodox
The Pakistani Air Force drones allegedly bombed the Panjshir province to aid the Taliban in their fight against the resistance forces, reports said.

 

YoungColonial27

Robin
Orthodox
To be fair that was twenty years ago. Furthermore, thanks to our greatest ally, the tech gap is no longer in our favor and China has front line military hardware which is at least on par with ours as well as the ability to destroy our satellite networks within a matter of hours. And the US is vastly more dependent on satellite internet than are Russia or China
I haven't considered this. Though in what ways is the US more dependant? Could China's navy overcome the US, if the US tried to blockade their ports? Also how would Nato react in such a scenario? Would they be any use or could China feasibly convince them to not interfere in such a war?
 

Easy_C

Peacock
Hard to explain in detail because this is based on personal experience, but most military units have almost zero ability to operate independently and instead function by micromanagement using satellite based internet and radio systems. Even in spartan field deployments they will set up a full operations center with laptops and screens and gather everyone for power point briefings and planning.


Lower leadership has almost zero ability to lead independently because they've never done anything other than highly micromanaged "managing" of their units and that skill doesn't come about overnight. By contrast Chinese military doctrine places an extremely high degree of emphasis on the initiative of leaders down to the squad level and squad leaders are expected to be able to operate independently of the larger body.
 

Pointy Elbows

Woodpecker
Orthodox
Hard to explain in detail because this is based on personal experience, but most military units have almost zero ability to operate independently and instead function by micromanagement using satellite based internet and radio systems. Even in spartan field deployments they will set up a full operations center with laptops and screens and gather everyone for power point briefings and planning.


Lower leadership has almost zero ability to lead independently because they've never done anything other than highly micromanaged "managing" of their units and that skill doesn't come about overnight. By contrast Chinese military doctrine places an extremely high degree of emphasis on the initiative of leaders down to the squad level and squad leaders are expected to be able to operate independently of the larger body.
Hard to explain what a departure this is from the '80s era Army ethic: centralized planning and decentralized execution. The entire idea was to encourage small-unit initiative and violence of action - exploit any opportunity that supported the overall mission.

If the Chinese have indeed flipped this dynamic on us...
 

Easy_C

Peacock
Chinese dynamic always was that way. Read a book called “Dragon Days: A time for unconventional warfare”.

For the US, let me give you an idea how bad it was. I was the Battle Captain for a deployed unit. One company is conducting a retrograde from a remote FOB. Vehicle gets a flat tire.

CO’s course of action: call Battalion headquarters and ask for guidance. On how to handle a flat tire.
 
The Pakistani Air Force drones allegedly bombed the Panjshir province to aid the Taliban in their fight against the resistance forces, reports said.

The Northern Resistance 2.0 was entirely an internet phenomenon. 10 percent Afghan diaspora clowns and 90 percent Indian internet trolls. Their main army was on Twitter, and not manning the frontline. It's best not too dedicate too much attention to these imposters

In the end it turned out they were only a couple of hundred strong, and they folded in their 'impenetrable valley' after barely 72 hours.

They were led by a posh speaking dude who spent most of his time playing squash in North London. In these more ancient lands family background and lineage still play a major role - but it turned out that he is not even 1 percent of what his father once was. I read rumors that he fled to France. No doubt hell resurface in some think thank or globohomo organization or whatever.

Likewise this Indian 'news' is low quality propaganda. A massive cope to deal with the insane failure of their foreign policy in Afghanistan. They even added video-game footage as 'proof'.
 
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Yeah, look up Operation Mockingbird then watch this and tell me China doesn't have serious influence over the US. People were saying Biden was owned by China, it seems more complicated than that, but...


Shlomo Shekelstein from China Uncensored has decided that China now controls US media. Menachem Ben Yahud from THE ATLANTIC, I repeat THE ATLANTIC warns of Chinese interference in domestic US' affairs.

I have to ask for the sake of my consciousness.

Are you being serious or is this trolling?
 

YoungColonial27

Robin
Orthodox
Shlomo Shekelstein from China Uncensored has decided that China now controls US media. Menachem Ben Yahud from THE ATLANTIC, I repeat THE ATLANTIC warns of Chinese interference in domestic US' affairs.

I have to ask for the sake of my consciousness.

Are you being serious or is this trolling?
I have to ask because it keeps coming up. Why do the people on this board appear to have a fetish for the CCP? Months ago I saw one user respond to reasonable arguments with claims of him being Indian or Mexican, and refused to explain his reasons.

It is starting to get concerning, especially since Joe Bidens son, Hunter Biden has links to China.

Just lines above, we have posters talking about why the US needs command to replace a tire, while China's fireteams are taught to operate independantly, and has displayed serious anti-satellite capabilities.

In the event of China invading, regardless of how well off China mainland is, they would certainly not balk at whatever measures it took to pacify the region. China has literally banned selling the Bible online in their own country.

If you have such delusions as your people being able to fight against a common enemy, look at how many SJWs criticise China, then tell me the meaning of divide and conquer.
 
I have to ask because it keeps coming up. Why do the people on this board appear to have a fetish for the CCP? Months ago I saw one user respond to reasonable arguments with claims of him being Indian or Mexican, and refused to explain his reasons.

It is starting to get concerning, especially since Joe Bidens son, Hunter Biden has links to China.

Just lines above, we have posters talking about why the US needs command to replace a tire, while China's fireteams are taught to operate independantly, and has displayed serious anti-satellite capabilities.

In the event of China invading, regardless of how well off China mainland is, they would certainly not balk at whatever measures it took to pacify the region. China has literally banned selling the Bible online in their own country.

If you have such delusions as your people being able to fight against a common enemy, look at how many SJWs criticise China, then tell me the meaning of divide and conquer.

It's rather suspicious that you seem to emerge in every thread where the word 'China' gets mentioned, drumming up these fake Conserva-tard nationalist talking points about how China is ready to take over the world and how we definitely need to unite against this 'common threat to our freedoms' .

The trans-national companies that shove wokeness down your throat aren't Chinese. Nor are the Church burning mobs, the banksters and the degenerates. Your true enemy is Western elites (both circumcised and uncircumcised) and they deserve your exclusive focus.
 
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YoungColonial27

Robin
Orthodox
It's rather suspicious that you seem to emerge in every thread where the word 'China' gets mentioned, drumming up these fake Conserva-tard nationalist talking points about how China is ready to take over the world and how we definitely need to unite against this 'common threat to our freedoms' .

The trans-national companies that shove wokeness down your throat aren't Chinese. Nor are the Church burning mobs, the banksters and the degenerates. Your true enemy is Western elites (both circumcised and uncircumcised) and they deserve your exclusive focus.

Is it? I have only been on a handful of such threads. Recent ones yes, but I don't go on this site that often.

What I find interesting is that you ChinaCucks have infested this forum so thoroughly that you can shut down any negative discussion immediately.

I discussed this the first time it happened with a user I will not name, but he simply told me he will pray for him, and I dared not imagine this forum might have been infilitrated by trolls and glowies for such a thing would be impossible to prove.

But for you specifically remember me from only two significant occasions on a handful of threads is highly suspicious. Especially since this is the first time I've put up any real effort instead of watching and observing.

You've had all this time to convince me China wasn't as bad as I have been led to believe by China Uncensored and this entire time you communist fucks have called me and other users, Indian, Mexican, or even implying I'm fed. Which is dumb. I basically doxxed myself. I even put my videos on private after accidentally doxxing myself on a leftist forum with people that supported antifa.

So far, all you convinced me of is that your arguments have no substance and that you ChinaCucks can only defeat argument with name calling.

I for one refuse to stand for this any longer.

 
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