The Afghanistan Conflict Thread

China is not going to get bogged down into a 20 year, $2 trillion war in Afghanistan, they don't have a parasitic military industrial complex and a subservient media. They'll work with the Taliban to stabilize their country, build them a solid infrastructure, and extract hundreds of billions of minerals from there the next couple of decades.
I agree with this. They’re not there to start a war. However. Jihad is a fickle and collective action which calls for Muslims to pick up arms against a an aggressor. Look how Muslims from around the globe ran to Syria/Iraq. China has no qualms with squishing religions within its own backyard or the nations they “fund”. With their presence in Afghanistan for precious minerals and resources there could be hiccups if the ummah has an outcry on their treatment of Muslims.

China doesnt care for anyone but itself. This whole notion of “we will help you build etc” isn’t for the host nations benefit, it’s solely for China’s. New roads? Ports? Bases? They do it for their sake not the other countries sake, once they get what they need they could care less about your condition. It’s like a mosquito that sucks blood. You’re only useful to it alive and when it’s for what it needs you’re just another body.

Not only did they get a strategic location economically but also geopolitically. This is a win win in their book and rightfully so. Biden dropped the ball so hard. Did globohomo tell him to withdraw so China could come in? Or is globohomo one with China and this is all a facade?

They didn’t leave Afghanistan due to tax payers money being a issue. I already know the Chinese have infiltrated our western society and have strong political and economical pull. They use our stupidity regarding BLM, feminism and all that other stuff to their advantage.

Question is, what do all these people have in common? Is it their love of money and lack of free will for their slaves?
 

Easy_C

Peacock
I agree with this. They’re not there to start a war. However. Jihad is a fickle and collective action which calls for Muslims to pick up arms against a an aggressor. Look how Muslims from around the globe ran to Syria/Iraq. China has no qualms with squishing religions within its own backyard or the nations they “fund”. With their presence in Afghanistan for precious minerals and resources there could be hiccups if the ummah has an outcry on their treatment of Muslims.
It isn't entirely ideological. Polygamy creates a lot of excess males who have no societal purpose except as cannon fodder.
 

Sherman

Ostrich
China doesnt care for anyone but itself. This whole notion of “we will help you build etc” isn’t for the host nations benefit, it’s solely for China’s. New roads? Ports? Bases? They do it for their sake not the other countries sake, once they get what they need they could care less about your condition. It’s like a mosquito that sucks blood. You’re only useful to it alive and when it’s for what it needs you’re just another body.
In other words, they are using the same strategy as America.
 

911

Peacock
Gold Member
Not only did they get a strategic location economically but also geopolitically. This is a win win in their book and rightfully so. Biden dropped the ball so hard. Did globohomo tell him to withdraw so China could come in? Or is globohomo one with China and this is all a facade?

They didn’t leave Afghanistan due to tax payers money being a issue. I already know the Chinese have infiltrated our western society and have strong political and economical pull. They use our stupidity regarding BLM, feminism and all that other stuff to their advantage.

Actually, they did, at least Biden did, he was against the surge back under Obama and was already for withdrawal from Afghanistan. In his old age with senility starting to manifest, he is somewhat more of a freespirit than the rest of his bunch, think of the unruly streak that some older people develop in their sunset years. Maybe he is becoming too senile to care about the dirt they have on him. I think he was just tired of that whole thing, those weekly briefings on the war progress must have bored him to death.

Part of the military command and analysts also wanted to pull out from Afghanistan in order to reposition their resources towards a looming confrontation in the Pacific with China, that's why it happened. I now think that the reason the pullout was so catastrophic was more because it was deliberately sabotaged by the faction that didn't want to leave, in order to make the pullout look like a disastrous decision, kind of a passive aggressive move. That is more plausible than incompetence, because the US military command, warts and all, is not nearly that incompetent.


... However. Jihad is a fickle and collective action which calls for Muslims to pick up arms against a an aggressor. Look how Muslims from around the globe ran to Syria/Iraq. China has no qualms with squishing religions within its own backyard or the nations they “fund”. With their presence in Afghanistan for precious minerals and resources there could be hiccups if the ummah has an outcry on their treatment of Muslims.

China doesnt care for anyone but itself. This whole notion of “we will help you build etc” isn’t for the host nations benefit, it’s solely for China’s. New roads? Ports? Bases? They do it for their sake not the other countries sake, once they get what they need they could care less about your condition. It’s like a mosquito that sucks blood. You’re only useful to it alive and when it’s for what it needs you’re just another body.

China's development model is much more of a win-win for their 3rd world partners. They are very good at delivering infrastructure at low cost, and that component is crucial to the development of those countries. When China builds airports, roads, railroads, powerplants and housing in countries like Tanzania or Ethiopia, they aren't just looking for resources, they are looking down the road for cheap labor for their low-end manufacturing (which they have priced themselves out of domestically due to fast rising Chinese salaries) as well as a new consumer base for their Haier ACs, Xiaomi or Oppo phones and $4,000 electric cars. That is the essence of their long term infrastructure investment calculus.

The West hasn't been able to deliver for Africa, and certainly not in Afghanistan. You look at the potential in a place like the Congo, site of the world's greatest hydroelectric potential, there is no will or impetus for western oligarchs to develop that, they are happy to keep Africa in a state of stunted development in order to keep getting their resources at bottom prices.

The continent is flooded with virtue signaling NGOs who will provide the little locals with trinkets like small solar panels or dig a few wells here and there, give away a few condoms and jab a bunch of women. That, and a few billion dollar loans that corrupt local official will siphon off while keeping their countries in the IMF.World Bank debt trap, has been the real western development model for the past 50+ years.

China is instead offering to dam the Congo's Inga river complex and create the world's greatest energy complex, which will turn Congo into an energy giant that will export electricity to the whole continent, from South Africa to Egypt. They will have several major high energy consuming industries like aluminum smelters, cement factories, steel mills, pulp and paper there, owned by Chinese interests.

Those are the industries China wants to outsource because its energy costs are a lot higher and scarce, they would rather put that limited resource into making chips or planes. For a place like Congo, it's a huge opportunity with hundreds of thousands of jobs, and a viable path towards real development. China comes in with a lot of credentials having themselves gone that route and having pulled themselves from abject communist poverty to modern wealth in the span of three decades.

It's not just a win-win for China and Africa, but also for Europe, as an underdeveloped black Africa would result in the acceleration of the Kalergi great replacement plan.
 
Actually, they did, at least Biden did, he was against the surge back under Obama and was already for withdrawal from Afghanistan. In his old age with senility starting to manifest, he is somewhat more of a freespirit than the rest of his bunch, think of the unruly streak that some older people develop in their sunset years. Maybe he is becoming too senile to care about the dirt they have on him. I think he was just tired of that whole thing, those weekly briefings on the war progress must have bored him to death.

Part of the military command and analysts also wanted to pull out from Afghanistan in order to reposition their resources towards a looming confrontation in the Pacific with China, that's why it happened. I now think that the reason the pullout was so catastrophic was more because it was deliberately sabotaged by the faction that didn't want to leave, in order to make the pullout look like a disastrous decision, kind of a passive aggressive move. That is more plausible than incompetence, because the US military command, warts and all, is not nearly that incompetent.




China's development model is much more of a win-win for their 3rd world partners. They are very good at delivering infrastructure at low cost, and that component is crucial to the development of those countries. When China builds airports, roads, railroads, powerplants and housing in countries like Tanzania or Ethiopia, they aren't just looking for resources, they are looking down the road for cheap labor for their low-end manufacturing (which they have priced themselves out of domestically due to fast rising Chinese salaries) as well as a new consumer base for their Haier ACs, Xiaomi or Oppo phones and $4,000 electric cars. That is the essence of their long term infrastructure investment calculus.

The West hasn't been able to deliver for Africa, and certainly not in Afghanistan. You look at the potential in a place like the Congo, site of the world's greatest hydroelectric potential, there is no will or impetus for western oligarchs to develop that, they are happy to keep Africa in a state of stunted development in order to keep getting their resources at bottom prices.

The continent is flooded with virtue signaling NGOs who will provide the little locals with trinkets like small solar panels or dig a few wells here and there, give away a few condoms and jab a bunch of women. That, and a few billion dollar loans that corrupt local official will siphon off while keeping their countries in the IMF.World Bank debt trap, has been the real western development model for the past 50+ years.

China is instead offering to dam the Congo's Inga river complex and create the world's greatest energy complex, which will turn Congo into an energy giant that will export electricity to the whole continent, from South Africa to Egypt. They will have several major high energy consuming industries like aluminum smelters, cement factories, steel mills, pulp and paper there, owned by Chinese interests.

Those are the industries China wants to outsource because its energy costs are a lot higher and scarce, they would rather put that limited resource into making chips or planes. For a place like Congo, it's a huge opportunity with hundreds of thousands of jobs, and a viable path towards real development. China comes in with a lot of credentials having themselves gone that route and having pulled themselves from abject communist poverty to modern wealth in the span of three decades.

It's not just a win-win for China and Africa, but also for Europe, as an underdeveloped black Africa would result in the acceleration of the Kalergi great replacement plan.
Very insightful and thought provoking, cheers for this.
 
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Towgunner

Kingfisher
I agree with this. They’re not there to start a war. However. Jihad is a fickle and collective action which calls for Muslims to pick up arms against a an aggressor. Look how Muslims from around the globe ran to Syria/Iraq. China has no qualms with squishing religions within its own backyard or the nations they “fund”. With their presence in Afghanistan for precious minerals and resources there could be hiccups if the ummah has an outcry on their treatment of Muslims.

China doesnt care for anyone but itself. This whole notion of “we will help you build etc” isn’t for the host nations benefit, it’s solely for China’s. New roads? Ports? Bases? They do it for their sake not the other countries sake, once they get what they need they could care less about your condition. It’s like a mosquito that sucks blood. You’re only useful to it alive and when it’s for what it needs you’re just another body.

Not only did they get a strategic location economically but also geopolitically. This is a win win in their book and rightfully so. Biden dropped the ball so hard. Did globohomo tell him to withdraw so China could come in? Or is globohomo one with China and this is all a facade?

They didn’t leave Afghanistan due to tax payers money being a issue. I already know the Chinese have infiltrated our western society and have strong political and economical pull. They use our stupidity regarding BLM, feminism and all that other stuff to their advantage.

Question is, what do all these people have in common? Is it their love of money and lack of free will for their slaves?

Agree with both above. China is definitely not going to start a war. They don't need to. The rare Earth materials are one thing and perhaps China will make some deals with a couple of local warlords to keep their investments safe, however, having witnessed what just happened to the US they're not about to do something similar. Far more valuable is their New Silk Road initiative. Now, I'm no civic engineer but judging by simple geography, this route doesn't have to go through Afghanistan at all. That said, the presence of the US military in combat mode nearby was a sufficient deterrent to this initiative. Now that presence is gone and, therefore, central Asia is wide open.
 

Max Roscoe

Pelican
Orthodox Inquirer
My impression is that the DNC is not quite ready to put Kamala Harris in the Oval Office. I think they're probably afraid it would lead to them getting massacred in the 2022 nationwide elections. So, they're trying to keep Biden going for at least another year or so.
The attacks on Biden are not to give us a Kamala presidency (She is hated by the vast majority of Democrats).
It is to usher in a truly awful neocon Republican.

When they tear down one leader, it is to push an even more odious one from the "opposition"
(Clinton begat Dubya; Dubya begat Obama, etc.)
 
The attacks on Biden are not to give us a Kamala presidency (She is hated by the vast majority of Democrats).
It is to usher in a truly awful neocon Republican.

When they tear down one leader, it is to push an even more odious one from the "opposition"
(Clinton begat Dubya; Dubya begat Obama, etc.)

This could be true. But remember, of all the Democrats, no one is more pro-war and pro-Israel than Kamala Harris. That is how she got destroyed in the debates and the polls and yet was picked as VP despite being from a deep blue state.
 

911

Peacock
Gold Member
Pretty much, Chris breaks it down here. After giving China millions of dollars, Xi became a real life boy and now Soros needs a new puppet.


Xi represents the nationalist faction in China, he's from the heartland, the city of Xi'an, the historical center and birthplace of Han Chinese civilization. XI hails from an upper class family that was heavily repressed during the Cultural Revolution. I can't think of a single leader of a nation today that is more patriotic than Xi, including Orban. Most western leaders today view their average citizen as a potential enemy, since those leaders work for a parasitic international oligarchy.

He wasn't supposed to be the man, that job was set to go to Bo Xilai and his Shanghai Clique, which is closely tied to Soros and the globalists. They have maintained a presence and influence ever since the takeover of China's coastline after the Boxer Wars, with the Usual Suspects running most of the opium traffic. Xi's faction is from the heartland, relatively less corrupted over the years than the coastal elite in places like Shanghai.

Elements among these usual suspect westerners helped draft the hardcore 1960s communist agenda, and much like for the Soviet Union, pushed communism while keping a financial lifeline to the outside world for Mao's regime. I could go over the details and dynamics of Xi's purging of globalist subversives but this is the wrong thread for this. What we're basically seeing now is the globalist China golem going rogue on them, very gradually and skillfully.

The globalists still own part of the China action in stocks like that of CITIC, the industrial banking conglomerate that is worth trillions, of which the Rothschilds, Rockefeller and Desmarais own a minority share as original investors going back to the Kissinger/Nixon years. Much like in 1990s Russia, these globalists steered China towards capitalism and facilitated the transition of Deng Xiaoping.

China was supposed to become an oligarchy run by its emerging class of billionaires in cahoot with the international oligarchy. Xi has outmaneuvered that faction and risen to the top, but also skillfully split the globalists by keeping these older investors on board while dangling the huge untapped domestic Chinese savings market, set to become the world's largest, to players like Blackrock.

I would also note here that Chris Chappell and his glowie Falun Gong outfit are clearly on Georges Soros' side, if that wasn't clear enough from that video, they're squarely part of the globohomo coalition agitating for "human rights", "minority rights" and faggotry rights. For them Xi's China has now become the #1 enemy, above even Vlad's Russia. They kind of occupy the right wing of that coalition.

It's kind of funny how Chappell and the Breitbart bunch obsessed with the CCP somehow fail to take notice of China's aggressive socially conservative policies, they are reduced to using SJW talking points about how the big bad CCP mistreats their muslims, while at the same time aggressively advocating for decades hardcore neocon policies of occupying and bombing half a dozen muslim countries...
 
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YoungColonial27

Robin
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It's kind of funny how Chappell and the Breitbart bunch obsessed with the CCP somehow fail to take notice of China's aggressive socially conservative policies, they are reduced to using SJW talking points about how the big bad CCP mistreats their muslims, while at the same time aggressively advocating for decades hardcore neocon policies of occupying and bombing half a dozen muslim countries...

I don't remember them advocating occupying the middle-east, perhaps you have them confused with someone else, or you could provide a source for that?

I also wouldn't say that video showed Chris as being on 'George Soros's side' considering America Uncovered showed me his ties to BLM and other marxist movements. Perhaps you could explain that? Yes, Chris agrees with Soros in this instance, no he hasn't forgotten that he invested in China in the first place, and certainly isn't on his side.

It seems to me you have something against the Falun Gong? Considering they are, as you put it, anti-faggotry, I'm curious why?
 

Coja Petrus Uscan

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Everywhere I look I see the emergence of the American Taliban - and it feels good.

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