The Alex Jones thread

911

Peacock
Gold Member
Just got some storable food from Infowars store.

Just have a gut feeling about things also I want to support AJ. If nothing else he's entertaining to me. People make fun of his water filters or supplements but how is he suppose to make money? Youtube? Google Adsense? If people don't want to pay for that stuff they can simply give him a donation, just like all the non-corporate funded figures on the right ask for donations. The difference is Alex created a actual business model where he can sell people things and get something and create value instead of just asking for handouts. If you don't believe in his supplements he has plenty of practical stuff you can buy like his documentaries, radios, books, storable food, apparel.

Alex paid for the Capitol rally, most of it from a donor according to this article, and peons still want to complain about him over one thing or another.


The guy is already worth 8 figures, your money would be much better spent on a struggling upstart true conservative pundit who hasn't sold out, like maybe Vincent James or Keith Woods.

I tapped out from AJ when he started telling his audience that Hollywood was run by Saudis/Chyna, that's the kind of gatekeeping agenda his Bronfman business partners really appreciate.
 

MKE-Ed

Robin
It is tough to know where Jones stands, as he contradicts his old talking points with GOP approved talking points today. But it appears he has thrown in the towel on Trump.

NSFW - LANGUAGE - Use of "f word"

This is very interesting to see Jones all of a sudden changing his opinion of Trump. I am starting to wonder if many so called pundits are having a change of heart when it comes to Trump. I also believe that this is happening because many are now starting to realize that Trump squandered away so many opportunities to get things done and they look at the way he handled all of the election fraud issues that surfaced after the election. The problem with the conservative right is that there are so many grifters that are selling nothing more than outrage porn. These grifters have become very wealthy selling all of this outrage stuff and now it looks so fake and empty when you look at the current state of affairs.

One thing I will say about Alex Jones is that he was one of the first out there to support Trump and he really did support him. When Jones was suddenly banned permanently from various online platforms, Trump never backed him up. Trump never defended any of his supporters.
 
This is very interesting to see Jones all of a sudden changing his opinion of Trump. I am starting to wonder if many so called pundits are having a change of heart when it comes to Trump. I also believe that this is happening because many are now starting to realize that Trump squandered away so many opportunities to get things done and they look at the way he handled all of the election fraud issues that surfaced after the election. The problem with the conservative right is that there are so many grifters that are selling nothing more than outrage porn. These grifters have become very wealthy selling all of this outrage stuff and now it looks so fake and empty when you look at the current state of affairs.

One thing I will say about Alex Jones is that he was one of the first out there to support Trump and he really did support him. When Jones was suddenly banned permanently from various online platforms, Trump never backed him up. Trump never defended any of his supporters.
I wonder if Alex Jones isn't being investigated by the FBI for insurrection after the Jan. 6th protest.

There are some people who think that Alex Jones and/or Nick Fuentes might get charged for insurrection by the FBI, despite never entering the capitol, due to their words and their knowledge it was going out to a large number of listeners.

I hope for their sake this is not true. They also say these charges likely will not come down until this summer/fall.
 

MKE-Ed

Robin
I wonder if Alex Jones isn't being investigated by the FBI for insurrection after the Jan. 6th protest.

There are some people who think that Alex Jones and/or Nick Fuentes might get charged for insurrection by the FBI, despite never entering the capitol, due to their words and their knowledge it was going out to a large number of listeners.

I hope for their sake this is not true. They also say these charges likely will not come down until this summer/fall.
Jones has been a real thorn on the side of the political establishment for a very long time. I remember first hearing about him from friends that were listening to show back in the early 1990s when he could only be heard on small market radio stations and on a couple of shortwave radio outlets. He was really big into the conspiracy stuff big time back then. If the feds charge Jones and Fuentes, this will send a chilling message to everyone that they are now being targeted for their views. This will have people come to conclude that we are heading towards full fledged tyranny. The feds did nothing against BLM and Antifa when they were rioting, looting and attacking people across the country and they got away with it. These were all well funded groups that should have gotten the feds involved. Instead, they want to possibly go after guys like Jones and Fuentes because they have a big number of followers and they have a tremendous amount of influence on the political discourse that is now taking place. The establishment wants to minimize these guys because they are waking up a lot of people to certain truths that they don’t want the general population to know about.
 

Towgunner

Kingfisher
I very much like Alex Jones. Yes, he's outspoken and crazy and all that. But, he's a solid voice in an otherwise wilderness of depravity. There was an incident last year that was striking to me, and I'm a consistent fan of Infowars. This incident got overshadowed by the election, which happened a week after. I'm talking about the Joe Rogan interview with Alex. During this interview, Joe "fact checked" every thing Alex said on air. It was a long interview and if I recall correctly, Alex got drunk during it. They covered a lot of ground. I'd say the majority of what Alex talks about. As they talked Joe would say, "go check that". Not so much to interrupt Alex, but, to make the process genuine. Here's the thing. After hours of this the fact checking confirmed Alex. At the end of it, I felt like saying out loud "Alex Jones is right!" Again, I'm an Infowar person, but, lets face it, Alex says some pretty wild things.

I have long since taken infowars as a more legitimate source then the mainstream media, which tells you everything about our current media. So, I suppose I shouldn't feel so shocked. By comparison Joe is a mello pot smoker who avoids sensationalism. Maybe it was this contrast that made this revelation chilling. When you go down this rabbit hole you discover a lot of things you rather not know about. But, he's right.

Regarding this recent news on Alex denouncing Trump. I don't know what to make of it. Alex had Trump on his show about a year before the 2016 election. I do think this helped Trump win, and therefore, I think Alex helped get a president elected in the US. That's awesome. But, that's also why "they" censored Alex a few years later. Before his unpersoning there was a air of real optimism. A lot of kids were getting into Infowars and that's important.

Back to the recent Trump story, I think its Alex just getting old. This is one of the things he talked about with Joe. He said he was getting old and this was really wearing on him. That he'd love to pass this off and retire or take a break. I can understand that. Alex is a force of nature. You can tell he works around the clock. Even on vacation, he'll create a video about the magnificence of nature as God's creation and how the elites want to take this away etc. He really could use a break. Also, after the capital spat in January, I wouldn't be surprised if he's spooked. Of all people, Alex appreciates how dangerous these people are. Up until that point, he was a vocal activist and for all his antics still operated within the law. He probably knew he could have been gobbled-up and sent to a CIA torture prison under a number of anti-terrorist laws the day after. Moreover, we are in an authoritarian state now. Speech is NOT free and the new administration plus a fully aligned congress is very open about how they want to crack down on conservatives, especially, upstarts like Alex. Matter of fact, I'd suspect Alex is at the top of the list. At the very least, I think he's laying low, the best he can, to see how this new system will unfold.

So I feel its a combination of trying to lay low and fatigue at work here. You can't say that he's not under the microscope.
 

Papist

Robin
I have to say I have never liked Alex Jones. Some of his 'theories' are simply nonsense or deliberately disingenuous - such as his claim, mentioned above, that the Saudis control Hollywood. I saw him on UK television once, and he just shouted and ranted, which made him look like an imbecile, as well as tarnish those who do question the official narrative. Admittedly he did bring attention to things like Bilderberg and Bohemian Grove, but I think he also perpetuated a lot of myths. The big question regarding Alex Jones is whether he was ever sincere, or is he a charlatan like David Icke.
 

MtnMan

Woodpecker
He's only 46! Just 5 years older than me. I think his lifestyle is catching up to him.

Compare him to Dr. E Michael Jones, who is around 70 years old and still putting out 1000 page books.
I sort of halfway think he is the same character as the Bill Hicks, the comedian, which would put his "real" age at 60. It sounds silly, but honestly, there are a lot of similarities. Off the top of my head, Bill's producer is Alex's producer (Kevin Booth), One of Bill's last things he did was cover Waco, and one of Alex's first things was to cover Waco, and there is no denying the physical similarities.

Not saying I am 100% sure on this, but it makes some sense to me.
 
I have to say I have never liked Alex Jones. Some of his 'theories' are simply nonsense or deliberately disingenuous - such as his claim, mentioned above, that the Saudis control Hollywood. I saw him on UK television once, and he just shouted and ranted, which made him look like an imbecile, as well as tarnish those who do question the official narrative. Admittedly he did bring attention to things like Bilderberg and Bohemian Grove, but I think he also perpetuated a lot of myths. The big question regarding Alex Jones is whether he was ever sincere, or is he a charlatan like David Icke.

It's hard to believe he is sincere and it is hard to believe that he is not.
 
I very much like Alex Jones. Yes, he's outspoken and crazy and all that. But, he's a solid voice in an otherwise wilderness of depravity. There was an incident last year that was striking to me, and I'm a consistent fan of Infowars. This incident got overshadowed by the election, which happened a week after. I'm talking about the Joe Rogan interview with Alex. During this interview, Joe "fact checked" every thing Alex said on air. It was a long interview and if I recall correctly, Alex got drunk during it. They covered a lot of ground. I'd say the majority of what Alex talks about. As they talked Joe would say, "go check that". Not so much to interrupt Alex, but, to make the process genuine. Here's the thing. After hours of this the fact checking confirmed Alex. At the end of it, I felt like saying out loud "Alex Jones is right!" Again, I'm an Infowar person, but, lets face it, Alex says some pretty wild things.

I have long since taken infowars as a more legitimate source then the mainstream media, which tells you everything about our current media. So, I suppose I shouldn't feel so shocked. By comparison Joe is a mello pot smoker who avoids sensationalism. Maybe it was this contrast that made this revelation chilling. When you go down this rabbit hole you discover a lot of things you rather not know about. But, he's right.
I've seen that interview. Alex was totally vindicated. And what's awesome is that he often cited mainstream news sources as well, so it would be very difficult for any normies tuning in to deny his claims.

I have to say, I'm also a huge fan of Alex Jones. I first heard him back around 2005 or so, and back then I thought "Hmmm, sounds very plausible, but I'll believe it when I see it." However, the past year has confirmed so much of what Alex has been talking about for well over a decade. At this point, it's almost impossible to deny the legitimacy of his claims about the globalists.

There's a video of Alex showing the research he's done on the COVID vaccine and on his desk he has pile after pile of printed material. He'd spent about 3 days going through all the material with a highlighter pen. Many people who love to trash talk him think he's just pulling his assertions out of thin air, when in fact he definitely does his homework.

Also, I find the name of his website Infowars to be incredibly prophetic. The war nowadays really is an information war. In the vast majority of cases, he who controls the flow of 'authoritative' information is the victor and the arbiter of perceived reality. It's how the masses are programmed to believe and behave in ways that suit the agenda of TPTB. We can see how well it has worked during the "pandemic" - without the MSM, no one would believe there's anything happening.
 

Grow Bag

Kingfisher
I have to say I have never liked Alex Jones. Some of his 'theories' are simply nonsense or deliberately disingenuous - such as his claim, mentioned above, that the Saudis control Hollywood. I saw him on UK television once, and he just shouted and ranted, which made him look like an imbecile, as well as tarnish those who do question the official narrative. Admittedly he did bring attention to things like Bilderberg and Bohemian Grove, but I think he also perpetuated a lot of myths. The big question regarding Alex Jones is whether he was ever sincere, or is he a charlatan like David Icke.
I watched that BBC interview, it was cringe. Compared to David Icke, though, Jones is a saint. At least he identifies as Christian. David Icke, with his quasi-gnostic rambling, is sheer poison. Sure, he gets a lot of stuff correct, but they sit alongside his beliefs in all manner of misleading nonsense. What I particularly don't like about him is that he's very influential with influential people, who in turn lead people astray, many who might otherwise find truth and salvation in Christianity. Recently Richard Gannon interviewed him and Gannon has 277k Youtube subs, Shaun Attwood with 663k subs has interviewed him a few times and finally London Real's Brian Rose, with 2 million subs, has interviewed him 5 times. Right now, as the some of scales are falling from more and more people's eyes, and they're looking for answers, Icke is harvesting many of those souls that might otherwise be saved.
 

Papist

Robin
I watched that BBC interview, it was cringe. Compared to David Icke, though, Jones is a saint. At least he identifies as Christian. David Icke, with his quasi-gnostic rambling, is sheer poison. Sure, he gets a lot of stuff correct, but they sit alongside his beliefs in all manner of misleading nonsense. What I particularly don't like about him is that he's very influential with influential people, who in turn lead people astray, many who might otherwise find truth and salvation in Christianity. Recently Richard Gannon interviewed him and Gannon has 277k Youtube subs, Shaun Attwood with 663k subs has interviewed him a few times and finally London Real's Brian Rose, with 2 million subs, has interviewed him 5 times. Right now, as the some of scales are falling from more and more people's eyes, and they're looking for answers, Icke is harvesting many of those souls that might otherwise be saved.

David Icke's always fascinated me. He must have been suffering from some sort of psychiatric episode, given what he said on Wogan, who I always thought was downright nasty to him.(1) However, he doesn't appear mad nowadays, on the contrary he seems very shrewd. It makes me wonder whether he recovered his mental health and then realised that he had an army of followers and could make a lot of money peddling his nonsense. The problem with this is that, as you say, he does get a lot of stuff correct, too. So people conflate the truth with his rubbish and usually dismiss it all. His claims are so outlandish, e.g. the moon's a spaceship which beams down the matrix, which is our reality. If I was really cynical, I might even speculate that he's being paid to propagate disinformation.


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David Icke's always fascinated me. He must have been suffering from some sort of psychiatric episode, given what he said on Wogan, who I always thought was downright nasty to him.(1) However, he doesn't appear mad nowadays, on the contrary he seems very shrewd. It makes me wonder whether he recovered his mental health and then realised that he had an army of followers and could make a lot of money peddling his nonsense. The problem with this is that, as you say, he does get a lot of stuff correct, too. So people conflate the truth with his rubbish and usually dismiss it all. His claims are so outlandish, e.g. the moon's a spaceship which beams down the matrix, which is our reality. If I was really cynical, I might even speculate that he's being paid to propagate disinformation.


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Icke seems to get some things right, but it's mixed in with too much speculative New Age fluff imo. Nevertheless, I'm grateful that he exists as a contrarian voice. While he might be misleading some people to an extent, he also serves as a gateway for others to start questioning the prevailing narrative.
 

godfather dust

Hummingbird
Gold Member
Icke seems to get some things right, but it's mixed in with too much speculative New Age fluff imo. Nevertheless, I'm grateful that he exists as a contrarian voice. While he might be misleading some people to an extent, he also serves as a gateway for others to start questioning the prevailing narrative.
David Icke is conspiracy theory and "new age" which is essentially Kaballah for non-Jews mixed with Crowley stuff etc. Witchcraft/Satanism. This is if he has not converted recently, I stopped paying attention when I started to work on my faith in 2014 and eventually become Christian. (I owned 3 of his books at some point so I got a little deeper into his theories.)

The magic stuff is a total poison pill when it comes to Icke.
 

monsquid

Kingfisher
Only 46? Alex lives a high stress life. At this rate he is gonna have a heart attack or a stroke. He already struggles with alcohol abuse.
 
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