The Alex Jones thread

get2choppaaa

Hummingbird
Orthodox
A lot of your citicisms are actualy made by him. Forgive me, but I dont think you've spent enough time checking out his work. You can find a lot of these comments in his show, he's addressed the zionism comments, the 911 false flags, China and WEF and Blackrock and Vanguard and all of that.

If we wasnt pulled off of youtube, you'd find a highlight real of all that no doubt. But I am sure there's clips of it on Bitchute and Odysee and Rumble if you care to dig for it.

For the record on J6.... he was there telling people NOT to storm the capital. Ultimately your citicisms dont reflect the body of work and it looks like you're focusing in on a couple things with out a totality of the body of work, AND, dont watch his show regularly so I dont know where youre actually basing what he says on.

I mean he goes on and on about the tranny kids thing and the economy. There again, its unfair to imply he hasnt addressed that issue, both of them explicitly.

I dont get it, if you think people are going to tune in to watch based Hitler hell-fire and brimstone every single point with out some excitmenent and entertainemnt, its just not going to happen. The problem is that most people need incremental shifts. So this guy, whos right about 90% of what he says leads people to open the door for themselves and walk into the store. Once they are in the store they decide to buy the cheap/obvious stuff (tranny kids/they want you to eat da bugs) then eventually they wonder into the back of the store, and find the rare collectibles and novelty items (thermite being found @ the 2 towers) ect...

Most people do not have the intelligence to be able to listen to an hour of straight facts and retain anything. They need emotion and entertainment to make those points stick.

I dont think being an entertainer and bringing awareness are mutually exclusive. He's not Steve Bannon, who organizes political movements behind the scenes.
 

It_is_my_time

Crow
Protestant
A lot of your citicisms are actualy made by him. Forgive me, but I dont think you've spent enough time checking out his work. You can find a lot of these comments in his show, he's addressed the zionism comments, the 911 false flags, China and WEF and Blackrock and Vanguard and all of that.

If we wasnt pulled off of youtube, you'd find a highlight real of all that no doubt. But I am sure there's clips of it on Bitchute and Odysee and Rumble if you care to dig for it.

For the record on J6.... he was there telling people NOT to storm the capital. Ultimately your citicisms dont reflect the body of work and it looks like you're focusing in on a couple things with out a totality of the body of work, AND, dont watch his show regularly so I dont know where youre actually basing what he says on.

I mean he goes on and on about the tranny kids thing and the economy. There again, its unfair to imply he hasnt addressed that issue, both of them explicitly.

I dont get it, if you think people are going to tune in to watch based Hitler hell-fire and brimstone every single point with out some excitmenent and entertainemnt, its just not going to happen. The problem is that most people need incremental shifts. So this guy, whos right about 90% of what he says leads people to open the door for themselves and walk into the store. Once they are in the store they decide to buy the cheap/obvious stuff (tranny kids/they want you to eat da bugs) then eventually they wonder into the back of the store, and find the rare collectibles and novelty items (thermite being found @ the 2 towers) ect...

Most people do not have the intelligence to be able to listen to an hour of straight facts and retain anything. They need emotion and entertainment to make those points stick.

I dont think being an entertainer and bringing awareness are mutually exclusive. He's not Steve Bannon, who organizes political movements behind the scenes.
I totally understand all of this, and this is why I would call him "purple pill". He does discuss the important issues, but he throws shade on them (accidentally or on purpose, there is no knowing) and digging deeper is forbidden.

I would like to believe many who go the AF route, or the Alex Jones route decide to dig deeper and go past it. I think many do, and for that I appreciate the purple pill outlets that started their path. But the fact he will never touch the subjects at a deeper level makes me not trust him. If he does it to stay on the good side, I can't blame him, but he is blowing a golden opportunity.

Him constantly buying into the false WW2 narrative of "ebil nazi democracts" or not having on guests like Ryan Dawson and a slew of others I could list, make me take little interest in what he has to say.

As for J6, the real guys knew away ahead to stay away. Like I said, one guy predicted it would likely happen before the election even occurred in October 2020. And like he said at another time, "I knew Trump was fake when he did the pretend budget negotiation in 2018 and got absolutely nothing in return. That is when I knew he was fake and there was no way to force him to do anything to help us." Another point Jones could have hammered on and did the opposite.
 

get2choppaaa

Hummingbird
Orthodox
I totally understand all of this, and this is why I would call him "purple pill". He does discuss the important issues, but he throws shade on them (accidentally or on purpose, there is no knowing) and digging deeper is forbidden.

I would like to believe many who go the AF route, or the Alex Jones route decide to dig deeper and go past it. I think many do, and for that I appreciate the purple pill outlets that started their path. But the fact he will never touch the subjects at a deeper level makes me not trust him. If he does it to stay on the good side, I can't blame him, but he is blowing a golden opportunity.

Him constantly buying into the false WW2 narrative of "ebil nazi democracts" or not having on guests like Ryan Dawson and a slew of others I could list, make me take little interest in what he has to say.

As for J6, the real guys knew away ahead to stay away. Like I said, one guy predicted it would likely happen before the election even occurred in October 2020. And like he said at another time, "I knew Trump was fake when he did the pretend budget negotiation in 2018 and got absolutely nothing in return. That is when I knew he was fake and there was no way to force him to do anything to help us." Another point Jones could have hammered on and did the opposite.
Got it.... We're entering the self licking ice cream cone phase of the conversation now.
 

It_is_my_time

Crow
Protestant
Got it.... We're entering the self licking ice cream cone phase of the conversation now.
Yea, pretty much. I understand what you are saying. My problem with Jones is he has both a very large audience of hungry young men and the desire to suppress the most important information. If he kept doing what he was doing, but let Ryan Dawson, E. Michael Jones, David Duke, Edward Dutton, and many more on time to time, say once a month for each guest, to have more serious conversations, he would be hitting it out of the park.

I enjoy the fact he is entertaining, and I appreciate he gets frustrated young men to question our govt. It just seems to lead to no where at the end, unless they decide on their own to move beyond him, and sadly not enough do.
 

get2choppaaa

Hummingbird
Orthodox
Yea, pretty much. I understand what you are saying. My problem with Jones is he has both a very large audience of hungry young men and the desire to suppress the most important information. If he kept doing what he was doing, but let Ryan Dawson, E. Michael Jones, David Duke, Edward Dutton, and many more on time to time, say once a month for each guest, to have more serious conversations, he would be hitting it out of the park.

I enjoy the fact he is entertaining, and I appreciate he gets frustrated young men to question our govt. It just seems to lead to no where at the end, unless they decide on their own to move beyond him, and sadly not enough do.
Beating someone over the head with a club is less effective for the genuinely curious than leaving bread trails and letting them come to conclusions on their own.
 

It_is_my_time

Crow
Protestant
Beating someone over the head with a club is less effective for the genuinely curious than leaving bread trails and letting them come to conclusions on their own.
I don't expect Jones to beat them over the head. Just have these guests on once in a while to drop some truth bombs. He actually did have David Duke on once, but he kept cutting him off and really kept him on a narrow path discussion.

And doing this does keep Jones out of trouble and able to get into the Capitol to make fun of Marco Rubio, which was great entertainment. I just don't know if those avenues are still available for him. I hope not, so that maybe he will go full red pill mode soon. If he does, I will happily support him and spread his links.
 

ItalianStallion9

Woodpecker
Protestant
Couple thoughts:
1) AJ could be fully based on what's up but says what he can to stay relevant. For example when redpilling your friends it's often smart to short stop of the full truth. I made that mistake years ago and my friend's liberal family didn't even want me around anymore (for the record I taught him about per capita ownership of banks/media/etc). Americans are conditioned so sprinkling truths that slowly add up can work. If AJ fully dumped everything on the JQ he could be fully cucked. You see what's happening to him now just with his small redpills and his life is being made miserable; it's easy for us to say for him to fully spew the truth while we're behind screens.

2) AJ throws in God more than many other prominent figures. There's the Andrew Tate thread. I've been keeping an eye on him and while he's full macho and masculine..he's end goal is just to get rich and fornicate. Alex Jones will mention God and Jesus.

3) Have we listened to all of His material? Lots of it is controlled on what we hear and algorithms manipulated by big tech. For example, listen to this full interview (but I clipped out a highlight):
 
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Jaybosan

Sparrow
Orthodox Inquirer
Alex Jones appeared on comedic interviewer Andrew Callaghan's channel "Channel 5." Andrew typically interviews drunk zoomers at music festivals, this is kind of a departure for him. The stress of the lawsuits seems to be getting to Jones.
 

Grow Bag

Pelican
Catholic
In this chat with spiritual gatekeeper David Icke, his English counterpart, Jones does indeed mention God, but it's in the context of Icke's gnostic ramblings. Indeed @ 50 minutes Icke takes the opportunity to reference the dead sea scrolls that clearly inform his own cosmology. Jones, if he is a Christian, had ample opportunity to challenge Icke on his heretical views, but not only didn't he push back, he back slapped Icke for trailblazing ideas, such as simulation theory, that are now being discussed among esteemed scientists such as Neil deGrasse Tyson and Bill Nye.

Jones is not a stupid guy, on the contrary, so if I, and so many people on this forum, reached the logical conclusion through our own observations, sinful exploits and God's grace, that the battle is spiritual and that only Jesus Christ can redeem us and equipt us for the fight, so can Alex Jones.

Icke has the same hubristic, utopian mindset as those he declares to be the enemy, insomuch as he spreads the idea of a collective awakening, that only mankind will save mankind. His message is that if we choose to not cooperate with evil and be loving (what that "infinite love" looks like I've never heard Icke expand upon) instead, then victory would be ours. For Jones to give Icke so much airtime and seemingly agree with so much of what Icke espouses, is tantamount to spiritual gatekeeping. The pair of them could be winning souls by the many thousands for Christ, instead they're misdirecting people that are ripe for the Lord by filling their heads with false notions and unachievable solutions. So who then is really pulling their strings?
 

get2choppaaa

Hummingbird
Orthodox
In this chat with spiritual gatekeeper David Icke, his English counterpart, Jones does indeed mention God, but it's in the context of Icke's gnostic ramblings. Indeed @ 50 minutes Icke takes the opportunity to reference the dead sea scrolls that clearly inform his own cosmology. Jones, if he is a Christian, had ample opportunity to challenge Icke on his heretical views, but not only didn't he push back, he back slapped Icke for trailblazing ideas, such as simulation theory, that are now being discussed among esteemed scientists such as Neil deGrasse Tyson and Bill Nye.

Jones is not a stupid guy, on the contrary, so if I, and so many people on this forum, reached the logical conclusion through our own observations, sinful exploits and God's grace, that the battle is spiritual and that only Jesus Christ can redeem us and equipt us for the fight, so can Alex Jones.

Icke has the same hubristic, utopian mindset as those he declares to be the enemy, insomuch as he spreads the idea of a collective awakening, that only mankind will save mankind. His message is that if we choose to not cooperate with evil and be loving (what that "infinite love" looks like I've never heard Icke expand upon) instead, then victory would be ours. For Jones to give Icke so much airtime and seemingly agree with so much of what Icke espouses, is tantamount to spiritual gatekeeping. The pair of them could be winning souls by the many thousands for Christ, instead they're misdirecting people that are ripe for the Lord by filling their heads with false notions and unachievable solutions. So who then is really pulling their strings?

Why would anyone go to AJ for spiritual advice?

I don't think Jones role is to be the pastor to the masses, neither does he try and pretend to be. He's having Icke on for entertainment and discussion.

Not sure why anyone would take crazy Icke seriously for that matter... But I'm not gonna castigate the guy for having some weird views.

Its Not like he's saying "I have the only correct truth and if you believe differently you're gonna burn in hell".

Maybe you think I'm being too generous, but I don't really see Jones as a person pretending to be a prophet... And growing up in Texas with the evangelical types, I can guess he's probably personally following a fairly conservative non denominational view....

So what?
 

traelo

 
Banned
Orthodox Inquirer

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Johnnyvee

Ostrich
Other Christian

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I guess that means Fauci and his buddies should pay a trillion at least...
 

GuitarVH

Ostrich
Orthodox Inquirer
I guess that means Fauci and his buddies should pay a trillion at least...

$1 Billion for words and temporarily pursuing alternate explanations to the government and media narrative of a highly suspicious event.

Versus

Actively attempting to inject the entire planet and successfully injecting billions of people with toxic poison that is causing many to die, as well as removing rights, privileges and the ability to earn a living of those who resist.
Criminal charges - none.
Financial repercussions to the murderers - huge profits.
 

paternos

Kingfisher
Catholic
https://www.infowars.com/posts/exclusive-alex-jones-responds-to-billion-dollar-judgement/

They're desperately trying to get him off the air. Will FBI come and pull the plug on his broadcast? It's not like preventing him from speaking is going to get the parents money, in fact it is the opposite. They should let him work in order to pay off his judgment. Anyone know what comes next for him?
It's a lot of fun watching him scream "yeah!" when the verdict gets read "60 million damage" "yeah"

What a clown world. I'm glad I found Jesus as otherwise I would be in a constant state of panic.

$1 Billion for words and temporarily pursuing alternate explanations to the government and media narrative of a highly suspicious event.

Versus

Actively attempting to inject the entire planet and successfully injecting billions of people with toxic poison that is causing many to die, as well as removing rights, privileges and the ability to earn a living of those who resist.
Criminal charges - none.
Financial repercussions to the murderers - huge profits.

So true.

$1 billion fine for questioning a suspicious narrative.

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You though get paid billions for inventing a holocaust, for injecting billions of peoples with poison, for starting a war with Russia and killing the young men of your nation, for loaning billions and buying real estate, gambling with lended money on the fall of the pound, for selling sin numbing drugs, spreading porn and killing babies in the womb.

What a world.
 

budoslavic

Eagle
Orthodox
Gold Member

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Roosh

Cardinal
Orthodox

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Why not a gazillion dollars?
 
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