The Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez thread

She's quite the precocious little shitlord. What makes it work is that AOC herself talks like a little girl. (When she isn't trying to channel MLK)
 

partyfowl

Robin
BortimusPrime said:
She's quite the precocious little shitlord. What makes it work is that AOC herself talks like a little girl. (When she isn't trying to channel MLK)
Yep, this is why I still find it pathetic that people are taking AOC actually seriously especially conservatives who say "ignore her at your own peril." AOC at best will become a perennial congresswoman. At worst she'll be voted out by her opponent and will be replaced by a newer model because the left eats their own.

AOC is a weak cult leader with strong cult members. AOC isn't the ones we need to worry about, it's her fans.
 

Once Was Not

Kingfisher
Well some of her totalitarian Green New Deal has essentially found it's way into Beto's campaign platform. A guy running for president. Clearly she is having an effect in her sphere. But I'm sure if we just ignore her all this will go away, like all our other problems.

Dem Presidential Hopeful Shames Oil Workers, Refuses Oil-Related Campaign Money

Sunrise Movement praised the hopeful for his move in a tweet. The group also boasted that "So far, over 1400 candidates have signed the No Fossil Fuel Money pledge nationwide, including 12 of 20 presidential candidates. Any candidate who wants to be taken seriously by our generation needs to sign the pledge and back the Green New Deal.”
O’Rourke last week released a climate change plan that aims to make the United States a net zero emitter by 2050 for the price of US$5 trillion. At the time, O’Rourke said if he was elected he would introduce a “legally enforceable” rule that Americans remove an amount of greenhouse gases equal to the amount they produce.
 

partyfowl

Robin
Well Beto is a beta orbiter that's cringey as hell. He's the punching bag for the democrats. "Hey I might not even appear at the debates but at least I'm not Beto O'Rourke." he won't be nominated and wouldn't even be a consideration for the more communist ones because they're also VERY identitarian
 

godfather dust

Ostrich
Gold Member
Robert Francis Beta is one of the Justice Democrat puppets. They all have the same platform. Probably share speech writers also. Mr. Reagan on YouTube has a video about it.
 

partyfowl

Robin
godfather dust said:
Robert Francis Beta is one of the Justice Democrat puppets. They all have the same platform. Probably share speech writers also. Mr. Reagan on YouTube has a video about it.
Exactly no matter how lazy Trump is defending free speech (though how America works isn't executive jobs but legislature something people keep forgetting since congress can force Twitter and such to choose publisher or platform. Either one works in our favor). Stop telling Trump it's too little too late.

The major reason Trump won the nomination was he was the maverick compared to a group of cucks. With the democrats it's literally a bunch of insane identitarian mavericks, some mavericks who are willing to compromise but they're conforming because they know they need to court the insane identitarians somehow and Joe Biden... who annoys everybody but business dems that are superdelegates
 
I admit I have mixed feelings towards AOC.
On one side I think she has a decent economic plan that may be bring more social justice in the US and in the future ultimately a better economy.
On the other side, precisely for this reason, I hope she never gets elected as President or anything close to that.
When the US was a powerful country, I mean more than now, we had wars all around and people suffered.
Now that every year that passes by the US becomes weaker and weaker, people look much better, there are way less wars, and the situation is improving.
Since I do not believe that anyone with common sense wants another era with the US as a superpower and Trump and Obama have escalated the US debt to >100% it may be better to have a Trump second term and the final collapse of the US hegemony and the take over by China, which will happen anyway but may happen sooner with Trump as President
 

Malone

Pelican
Gold Member
Teo72 said:
I admit I have mixed feelings towards AOC.
On one side I think she has a decent economic plan that may be bring more social justice in the US and in the future ultimately a better economy.
On the other side, precisely for this reason, I hope she never gets elected as President or anything close to that.
When the US was a powerful country, I mean more than now, we had wars all around and people suffered.
Now that every year that passes by the US becomes weaker and weaker, people look much better, there are way less wars, and the situation is improving.
Since I do not believe that anyone with common sense wants another era with the US as a superpower and Trump and Obama have escalated the US debt to >100% it may be better to have a Trump second term and the final collapse of the US hegemony and the take over by China, which will happen anyway but may happen sooner with Trump as President
Look at this faggotry right here. You think this dipshit has a good economic plan and you're hoping that the US collapses and China takes over the world.

Soy, gentlemen, not even once.
 

Jetset

Ostrich
AOC's "I'm poor!" menstrual show might be jumping the shark, as she claims to have never seen a garbage disposal before and to have been startled to discover one in her Washington apartment, declaring it "bougie" and "terrifying":

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/o...garbage-disposals-it-is-terrifying-2019-05-07

I am told this is a garbage disposal. I’ve never seen a garbage disposal. I never had one in any place I’ve ever lived. It is terrifying. I don’t know what it’s for, or what its purpose is. Like, food scraps? Like, is this environmentally sound?
 

gework

Ostrich
Gold Member
Teo72 said:
Since I do not believe that anyone with common sense wants another era with the US as a superpower and Trump and Obama have escalated the US debt to >100% it may be better to have a Trump second term and the final collapse of the US hegemony and the take over by China, which will happen anyway but may happen sooner with Trump as President.
The US as the superpower is the least worst option.

There isn't a previous world order you'd likely prefer. Think The Ottoman Empire or Ghengis Khan.

The world has been reformed to it's current state of largely respecting national sovereignty, no slavery (except Africa and Asia), some form of a fair justice system, education and so on via the work of The US and Europe, almost without exception. The rest of history was a history of conquest, if not by empires, kingdoms, if not by kingdoms tribes. Due to the left-wing take over of centers of learning this is largely ignored.

The current order should be criticised, but ignoring that this is a dramatically better order than has ever existed before. It also ignores that who you now propose take over would also likely be far worse. Look how China treats their own people - banning millions from travel who don't meet their standards and putting people in concentration and reeducation camps. It's well known the Chinese have a big in-group preference. You can hardly expect their reign to be any better.

Also the Chinese takeover is considerably less likely than many of its predictors. China's working population has peaked:



Their elderly population is growing:

[img=900x700]https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/12DB/production/_104772840_china_pop_area-nc.png[/img]

And their overall population will be in decline fairly soon:



The attempt to reverse the one-child policy has failed and the population has outstripped the country's ability to grow.

As things are looking China might eclipse US GDP in our lifetime, but it will be at a much slower pace, similar to that of certain EE countries who are growing by simply following Western production, with falling populations. But China's GDP per capita is highly unlikely to eclipse the US in our lifetime.

There isn't a conceivable replacement to the US. There has been a lot of talk about the replacement of the US dollar as the world reserve currency, but it's remained at roughly the same share of international exchange for the last twenty years. Most of the issues for the US are as big or bigger for other major powers like Japan, Korea, China, Russia and Europe. The countries that are growing like Vietnam and India are too small and will face their own demographic issues in a few decades.
 

CynicalContrarian

Peacock
Gold Member
Jetset said:
AOC's "I'm poor!" menstrual show might be jumping the shark, as she claims to have never seen a garbage disposal before and to have been startled to discover one in her Washington apartment, declaring it "bougie" and "terrifying":

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/o...garbage-disposals-it-is-terrifying-2019-05-07

I am told this is a garbage disposal. I’ve never seen a garbage disposal. I never had one in any place I’ve ever lived. It is terrifying. I don’t know what it’s for, or what its purpose is. Like, food scraps? Like, is this environmentally sound?

With nonsense like that.
There's not even any real need for the parody account.
Similar to how The Onion waned as it was all the more difficult to satirize an absurd world.
 

beta_plus

Pelican
China won't eclipse the USA

gework said:
Teo72 said:
Since I do not believe that anyone with common sense wants another era with the US as a superpower and Trump and Obama have escalated the US debt to >100% it may be better to have a Trump second term and the final collapse of the US hegemony and the take over by China, which will happen anyway but may happen sooner with Trump as President.
The US as the superpower is the least worst option.

There isn't a previous world order you'd likely prefer. Think The Ottoman Empire or Ghengis Khan.

The world has been reformed to it's current state of largely respecting national sovereignty, no slavery (except Africa and Asia), some form of a fair justice system, education and so on via the work of The US and Europe, almost without exception. The rest of history was a history of conquest, if not by empires, kingdoms, if not by kingdoms tribes. Due to the left-wing take over of centers of learning this is largely ignored.

The current order should be criticised, but ignoring that this is a dramatically better order than has ever existed before. It also ignores that who you now propose take over would also likely be far worse. Look how China treats their own people - banning millions from travel who don't meet their standards and putting people in concentration and reeducation camps. It's well known the Chinese have a big in-group preference. You can hardly expect their reign to be any better.

Also the Chinese takeover is considerably less likely than many of its predictors. China's working population has peaked:



Their elderly population is growing:

[img=900x700]https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/12DB/production/_104772840_china_pop_area-nc.png[/img]

And their overall population will be in decline fairly soon:



The attempt to reverse the one-child policy has failed and the population has outstripped the country's ability to grow.

As things are looking China might eclipse US GDP in our lifetime, but it will be at a much slower pace, similar to that of certain EE countries who are growing by simply following Western production, with falling populations. But China's GDP per capita is highly unlikely to eclipse the US in our lifetime.

There isn't a conceivable replacement to the US. There has been a lot of talk about the replacement of the US dollar as the world reserve currency, but it's remained at roughly the same share of international exchange for the last twenty years. Most of the issues for the US are as big or bigger for other major powers like Japan, Korea, China, Russia and Europe. The countries that are growing like Vietnam and India are too small and will face their own demographic issues in a few decades.
By its geographic location, China can never become a world superpower.

Go to 6 minutes:


Due to the chain of island nations that completely surround China's coastline, the US can blockade China whenever it wants. Even if China's wonder weapons work and sink the 7th fleet, within a week or two the US would have 1/2 of its 50+ attack subs patrolling those waters, sinking all Chinese tonnage in sight. And even if China's wonder weapons could then deal with the subs and wipe the USA from the western Pacific, within a month Japan and S. Korea would become nuclear powers. Japan and Korea REALLY hate China. Japan has a long history of using its navy to make China's life miserable.

As for a world currency, there is simply nothing that can replace the dollar. Peter Zeihan has a wonderful explanation why but it basically comes down to this.

Politically, in order to have the world currency, a country must have an enormous economy that is economically independent enough from trade that the local population does not care if the currency fluctuates by large swings in value.

The US, by % of GDP, is one of the least trade dependent economies on earth, similar to landlocked African countries. When the US dollar goes up or down, most Americans do not notice except at the gas pump. With the fracking shale revolution, even that will disappear as the value of the dollar decouples from its negative correlation with oil prices.

All of the world's other large economies, but especially China's do not fit that profile at all.
 

spokepoker

Hummingbird
I didn't grow up with a garbage disposal (mid-50's rambler) but I still knew what it was and what it was for.
Our kitchen sinks were always getting clogged, I remember having to go on the roof to plug the sewage vent so my dad could unclog them. I think he used that hose attachment that expands to seal and forces water through, so I had to keep the water from escaping the vent.
 

Jetset

Ostrich
SamuelBRoberts said:
Lotta NYC apartments are really old and don't have garbage disposals. It's probably true.
From age 5 through high school, she lived in a suburb in Westchester. Even then, there's a huge difference between saying "I never had one of my own" and "what can this strange device be?", like Crocodile Dundee discovering a bidet.


Getting a spoon or something stuck in the garbage disposal is a well-worn American television trope. I firmly believe she's putting on a poorface act because she knows her supporters are eating it up.
 

gework

Ostrich
Gold Member
Piecoon said:
Check out the bicep to shoulder ratio.
Her BF has been getting roasted online for looking like a homeless person.



No wonder she doesn't know to use a garbage disposal. This gorilla compacts their trash with his bare hands.
 
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