The Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez thread

Same way Trump supporters are holding faith that Trump is going to somehow win this election with their "get rid of the illegal votes and count the legal votes" schtick. He got swept fair and square just like I predicted. What made him lose was his inability to stop the pandemic and brushing it off as some conspiracy perpetuated by the Chinese, but hey since Trump said it, it must be true what he says right? Instead he tried to brush off the pandemic (which was the number 1 issue for Americans) and focus on the "evil lefties burning down cities." See unlike you, I don't believe in Conspiracy theories and don't blindingly support a self-obsessed cry baby like Trump just because he tells me to. That's incredibly small thinking and cowardly and weak. "I'm so scared of the evil lefties, please Donnie, please lead me" :boring:.

As far as AOC and the squad are concerned, at least they actually want to help working people and support policies that the overwhelmingly majority of Americans support. They are for

-The Green New Deal (63% of Americans support it)
https://grist.org/article/poll-the-green-new-deal-is-as-popular-as-legalizing-weed/

-Medicare for All (69% of Americans support it including 50% of Conservatives)
https://thehill.com/hilltv/what-ame...69-percent-of-voters-support-medicare-for-all

And speaking of conservatives to the bewilderment of their own Fox News hosts, and exit poll done on Fox News viewers found that 72% of them support a government-run health care plan.


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-Raising the minimum wage (70% of Americans support raising the minimum wage including 62% of GOP voters)
https://www.witf.org/2020/09/30/pol...olitical-spectrum-want-a-higher-minimum-wage/

-Canceling all student loans (67% of Americans support it including half of Republicans)
https://www.forbes.com/sites/adammi...d-other-relief-for-borrowers/?sh=4b419072b7c1

- $2000 a month UBI during the pandemic (77% of Democrats and 52% of Republicans support it)
https://basicincometoday.com/poll-7...blicans-now-support-an-emergency-ubi-of-2000/



^^^^^^^ This is why Trump lost. He didn't stand for any of these things and frankly he didn't stand for shit! "Evil lefties bad," "Evil lefties are going to destroy your cities" is not going to win you an election. I'm surprised Biden didn't win by more, because an actual leftie would have destroyed Trump doubling Biden's numbers. Those are just facts.

You can trash AOC and the squad all you want but they are correct on the issues that matter and are in sync with what the majority of Americans want including Republicans, which is the reason the Republican and Democratic establishment hates them so much. I think you my friend are naive on the issues on the ground, but hey I expect that you being from Croatia and all. These 4 chicks are going nowhere and are only going to get bigger given the overwhelmingly popularity of the issues they support.

What planet are you from? You call @Handsome Creepy Eel naive but your explanation is so childish, it's laughable. Do you really believe people were buying guns in record numbers but not scared of "evil lefties?" Have you looked at the polling for who's bought into the pandemic and who thinks it probably was never a threat in the first place?

The rest of your arguments boil down to "do something please," which is hardly a praiseworthy point for politicians. They always want to be seen doing something, no matter how stupid.
 

Pendleton

Pelican
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She's a solid 7 for me, tbh. Very much in the acceptable range. I like Latinas, don't mind a somewhat busted face as long as her figure is there, and I'm totally immune to political differences affecting my attraction level (I always liked Jewish girls too). She does go up to a 9 in a mask though, because it covers her horse teeth and kind of weird nose.

Go ahead, shoot me. Actually, she probably will once she gets to the white house in 2032 or so.
"busted face" "horse teeth" "weird nose"..."solid 7" This must be the American rating scale.
 
We work with what we've got.
Nah, I feel you. She is good looking for her age, particularly her body. She could definitely pull off being an 8 with good makeup, spanx, heels and a dim bar. She also comes off as someone really wild and loud in bed, which isn’t surprising given her bartender background. I’d still probably take Gabbard over her, just because her face is more attractive to me, and that hint of shiny cleavage she showed in the dem debates still is etched in my mind.
 

Lionheart

Sparrow
Nah, I feel you. She is good looking for her age, particularly her body. She could definitely pull off being an 8 with good makeup, spanx, heels and a dim bar. She also comes off as someone really wild and loud in bed, which isn’t surprising given her bartender background. I’d still probably take Gabbard over her, just because her face is more attractive to me, and that hint of shiny cleavage she showed in the dem debates still is etched in my mind.
She looked much better in college. She is not aging well.
 
Same way Trump supporters are holding faith that Trump is going to somehow win this election with their "get rid of the illegal votes and count the legal votes" schtick. He got swept fair and square just like I predicted. What made him lose was his inability to stop the pandemic and brushing it off as some conspiracy perpetuated by the Chinese, but hey since Trump said it, it must be true what he says right? Instead he tried to brush off the pandemic (which was the number 1 issue for Americans) and focus on the "evil lefties burning down cities." See unlike you, I don't believe in Conspiracy theories and don't blindingly support a self-obsessed cry baby like Trump just because he tells me to. That's incredibly small thinking and cowardly and weak. "I'm so scared of the evil lefties, please Donnie, please lead me" :boring:.

As far as AOC and the squad are concerned, at least they actually want to help working people and support policies that the overwhelmingly majority of Americans support. They are for

-The Green New Deal (63% of Americans support it)
https://grist.org/article/poll-the-green-new-deal-is-as-popular-as-legalizing-weed/

-Medicare for All (69% of Americans support it including 50% of Conservatives)
https://thehill.com/hilltv/what-ame...69-percent-of-voters-support-medicare-for-all

And speaking of conservatives to the bewilderment of their own Fox News hosts, and exit poll done on Fox News viewers found that 72% of them support a government-run health care plan.


El7sbBXWkAg_gG1


-Raising the minimum wage (70% of Americans support raising the minimum wage including 62% of GOP voters)
https://www.witf.org/2020/09/30/pol...olitical-spectrum-want-a-higher-minimum-wage/

-Canceling all student loans (67% of Americans support it including half of Republicans)
https://www.forbes.com/sites/adammi...d-other-relief-for-borrowers/?sh=4b419072b7c1

- $2000 a month UBI during the pandemic (77% of Democrats and 52% of Republicans support it)
https://basicincometoday.com/poll-7...blicans-now-support-an-emergency-ubi-of-2000/



^^^^^^^ This is why Trump lost. He didn't stand for any of these things and frankly he didn't stand for shit! "Evil lefties bad," "Evil lefties are going to destroy your cities" is not going to win you an election. I'm surprised Biden didn't win by more, because an actual leftie would have destroyed Trump doubling Biden's numbers. Those are just facts.

You can trash AOC and the squad all you want but they are correct on the issues that matter and are in sync with what the majority of Americans want including Republicans, which is the reason the Republican and Democratic establishment hates them so much. I think you my friend are naive on the issues on the ground, but hey I expect that you being from Croatia and all. These 4 chicks are going nowhere and are only going to get bigger given the overwhelmingly popularity of the issues they support.

Some day I hope you'll realize that you're just a loser, and all your political decisions are based on trying to pull everyone else down so that it is harder to tell losers from winners.

It would be better for you if you focused on bettering yourself. And even better if you didn't care so much what the herd thinks at this exact moment in time (which will change just as easily as the wind blows).

I'll give you the best bit of advice that you can possibly get at this point in your life, which I doubt you'll take because your loser mentality is so deeply ingrained but hey there's a small chance so here goes:

Next time you want to start a thread on the forum about money, instead of writing "how do I live on a loser wage", instead ask the question "how can I become more valuable to people so I get closer to earning a winner wage".
 

911

Peacock
Gold Member
I respect Perros' viewpoints as a sometimes misguided contrarian on this board, you guys should keep your criticism positive and attacks less personal. This being said, you're completely off the mark on two counts here, Perros:

-AOC was selected, not elected. She practically auditioned for the role and had an organization behind her.

-The Green New Deal is a scam, driven by the catastrophic anthropogenic CO2 theory in a classic problem/reaction/solution scheme, and a Straussian political movement designed to mobilize a large segment of the population behind globalist aims that seek to impoverish and control the masses.
 

Athanasius

Pelican
I respect Perros' viewpoints as a sometimes misguided contrarian on this board, you guys should keep your criticism positive and attacks less personal.
Can't agree with you on this one, sir. He overreacted to George Floyd, starting what became the riots thread, then he told us Trump would lose, which he didn't, and now he tells us Trump lost "fair and square." Fair and square. That is borderline trolling. He gets downvoted heavily because people come in here to see guys giving independent, non-mainstream takes only to see his posts that would be at home on any MSM or big tech propaganda outlet. It's the type of progressive balderdash piped to us endlessly over Big Brother's telescreens.
 

homersheineken

Kingfisher
Didn't they already say this 14 months ago... for the last 14 years? :sleepy:
The AP has been whining about it for over 30 years:

UNITED NATIONS (AP) _ A senior U.N. environmental official says entire nations could be wiped off the face of the Earth by rising sea levels if the global warming trend is not reversed by the year 2000.



Coastal flooding and crop failures would create an exodus of ″eco- refugees,′ ′ threatening political chaos, said Noel Brown, director of the New York office of the U.N. Environment Program, or UNEP.



He said governments have a 10-year window of opportunity to solve the greenhouse effect before it goes beyond human control.



As the warming melts polar icecaps, ocean levels will rise by up to three feet, enough to cover the Maldives and other flat island nations, Brown told The Associated Press in an interview on Wednesday.



Coastal regions will be inundated; one-sixth of Bangladesh could be flooded, displacing a fourth of its 90 million people. A fifth of Egypt’s arable land in the Nile Delta would be flooded, cutting off its food supply, according to a joint UNEP and U.S. Environmental Protection Agency study.



″Ecological refugees will become a major concern, and what’s worse is you may find that people can move to drier ground, but the soils and the natural resources may not support life. Africa doesn’t have to worry about land, but would you want to live in the Sahara?″ he said.



UNEP estimates it would cost the United States at least $100 billion to protect its east coast alone.



Shifting climate patterns would bring back 1930s Dust Bowl conditions to Canadian and U.S. wheatlands, while the Soviet Union could reap bumper crops if it adapts its agriculture in time, according to a study by UNEP and the International Institute for Applied Systems Analysis.



Excess carbon dioxide is pouring into the atmosphere because of humanity’s use of fossil fuels and burning of rain forests, the study says. The atmosphere is retaining more heat than it radiates, much like a greenhouse.



The most conservative scientific estimate that the Earth’s temperature will rise 1 to 7 degrees in the next 30 years, said Brown.



The difference may seem slight, he said, but the planet is only 9 degrees warmer now than during the 8,000-year Ice Age that ended 10,000 years ago.



Brown said if the warming trend continues, ″the question is will we be able to reverse the process in time? We say that within the next 10 years, given the present loads that the atmosphere has to bear, we have an opportunity to start the stabilizing process.″



He said even the most conservative scientists ″already tell us there’s nothing we can do now to stop a ... change″ of about 3 degrees.



″Anything beyond that, and we have to start thinking about the significant rise of the sea levels ... we can expect more ferocious storms, hurricanes, wind shear, dust erosion.″



He said there is time to act, but there is no time to waste.



UNEP is working toward forming a scientific plan of action by the end of 1990, and the adoption of a global climate treaty by 1992. In May, delegates from 103 nations met in Nairobi, Kenya - where UNEP is based - and decided to open negotiations on the treaty next year.



Nations will be asked to reduce the use of fossil fuels, cut the emission of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases such as methane and fluorocarbons, and preserve the rain forests.



″We have no clear idea about the ecological minimum of green space that the planet needs to function effectively. What we do know is that we are destroying the tropical rain forest at the rate of 50 acres a minute, about one football field per second,″ said Brown.



Each acre of rain forest can store 100 tons of carbon dioxide and reprocess it into oxygen.



Brown suggested that compensating Brazil, Indonesia and Kenya for preserving rain forests may be necessary.



The European Community istalking about a half-cent levy on each kilowatt- hour of fossil fuels to raise $55 million a year to protect the rain forests, and other direct subsidies may be possible, he said.



The treaty could also call for improved energy efficiency, increasing conservation, and for developed nations to transfer technology to Third World nations to help them save energy and cut greenhouse gas emissions, said Brown.
 
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