The Anthony Bourdain Thread (RIP)

getdownonit

Kingfisher
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Rocha said:
getdownonit said:
The comments on that instagram post are brutal, the one in Italian says: she had the pleasure of meeting you, and she made him die

It is more: "He had the bad luck of meeting you, and that made him die"

Correct, I missed the 's' in Sfiga

These Russian women are wearing me thin
 

el mechanico

Owl
Gold Member
If only he were to see my thread and take guidance from my wisdom.. Things only really work one way my friends and when I look at something and have to think about it or consider it un natural it'll only be a matter of time.

Very sad.
 

DChambers

Woodpecker
Shady. Same sort of situation as David Carradine. Caradine went to Thailand and was according to his family investigating secret societies. Found dead hung in his hotel room and ruled a suicide.

I don't think it was suicide. There's too many other things muddying the waters. The tweets, the girlfriend involved in the occult, the Weinstein talks. I may be in the minority but I don't think this has to do with a woman problem. These people are mixed up in a lot of strange and esoteric circles and thoughts. Not a fan of his politics and I haven't watched his show in years, but I can't help but feel bad for him. I think he ran afoul of some powers that be out there.
 

LeoneVolpe

Pelican
Gold Member
It’s weird to see pics of Anthony Bourdain and Chris Cornell (Soundgarden/Audioslave) standing next to each other when they both supposedly committed suicide hanging off the back of hotel room doors and were both cremated before their funerals.

Let’s not forget Chester Bennington (Linkin Park) hanged himself two months after friend Cornell did on what would’ve been Cornell’s 53rd birthday. Then, Kate Spade hanged herself from a door around the same time Bourdain did.

Just sayin’, it’s a little weird...
 

Zep

Pelican
TravelerKai said:
Hold on a second. He was throwing shade at the Clintons?

Damn damn damn....

I want to believe.

Ya.

There's the Clinton shade.

and then there's this little gem....

Watch this and then still believe HE was the one who ended his life. I don't think so.



She's pretty expressive no? and so was Bourdain, he was not shy on his Twitter, I took a look, that's how I came across the above clip...what does Bourdain know, and how much now that he's with Argento? People should be getting pretty nervous by this couple, can you imagine the heartrates of some of those in attendance? Bet they went through the roof.

So, she says the above, and obviously The Goon Squad can't suicide her, that would be way way too obvious. So, they suicide Bourdain, sending a big message to her and other actresses that should they be so 'Brave'? , their loved ones ARE going to be suicided.
 
Zep said:

The tweet seems to be fake, also what should a low-weight junkie like Bourdain know?

Also - when listening to that bitch I can only think that I don't believe one word about her rape story. In addition when I see those actresses I can imagine what they all think:

"Yeaah! I sucked dick too and did not get a decent part out of it! I was raped."

Meanwhile the same bitch was banging more Alpha men left and right and using Bourdain's Beta Bucks and comfort foods and feels to have some normalcy.
 
Rollo has an article on Bourdain who he calls Lifetime Beta and Big Fish at the same time:

https://therationalmale.com/2018/06/18/big-fish/

It’s likely readers here have been following my twitter threads about the Anthony Bourdain suicide and I’ve been discussing the particulars about his death on Jay Campbell’s show and the Red Man Group for almost 2 weeks now. As readers know I’ve personally dealt with two suicides under circumstances like this and I’ve picked apart dozens more over the years I’ve been writing. I’ve got a pretty good idea why old Beta guys off themselves.

But the Beta part is only one aspect of the story. Anthony being a ‘paper alpha’ is certainly an aspect too, but the more I dig into the background of the “love of his life”, Asia Argento, the more the puzzle pieces fit together. This bitch was a piece of work. If you watched the Red Man Group last Saturday I explained why I don’t think she was a BPD case (borderline personality disorder), but after reading this thread I’m beginning to change my mind:


Rollo Tomassi
@RationalMale
Wow. @PC1170

All of this just lifted from Asia’s IG feed. WTF?!https://vigilantcitizen.com/latestn...asia-argento-anthony-bourdains-ex-girlfriend/

8:18 AM - Jun 18, 2018

The Occult World of Asia Argento - Anthony Bourdain's ex-Girlfriend - The Vigilant Citizen
A look at the life, career, and occult social media posts of Asia Argento - the girlfriend of Anthony Bourdain at the time of his death.

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So, she’s a witch. A literal witch, and all of her ‘sisterhood’ are witches are too. You can digest that however you feel is necessary, but this is a 42 year old woman who practices literal witchcraft – which is an extension of feminism with a pagan spiritual woo woo magical thinking whipped into the mix. I really need to do a more expansive post on Chick Crack soon.

But, even this isn’t what I want to confront you with. What I want to raise your awareness to is something I’ve never really had an occasion to explore until now; Anthony Bourdain was a very big fish.

Anthony Bourdain (AB) was a long term, life-long, Beta. He was every bit of what I call a ‘terminal Beta‘. Yes, he had the Bad Boy thing working for him and if you want to get a more complete idea about his past Black Label Logic has a great piece on his blog you really ought to read. But, with respect to Bourdain’s understanding of intersexual dynamics he was very much a Beta.

People immediately gave me shit for naming him such. That was expected. He’s Anthony-fucking-Bourdain and I’m just some “half-assed self-published Red Pill writer, what the fuck do I know, right?” Well, I knew enough to recognize the profile of a Contextual Alpha who’d been plugged into his Blue Pill conditioning for 61 years and the huge mark he put on himself by being so publicly co-dependent on the idea of the soul mate myth. Anthony had been through 2 wives. The most recent one cheated on him with her MMA fighter / personal trainer he no doubt was paying to “train” his soon-to-be ex wife. I have no doubt AB would’ve attempted to lock down Asia Argento because this is what overly possessive, perpetually mate guarding Beta men do when a woman approaches his “dream girl” ideal. His social media was rife with declarations about how happy he was to have finally met his ‘kindred spirit’ soul mate (and self-avowed Wiccan) Asia Argento. AB sincerely believed his ship had come in. The woman who would finally complete him (this time) was at last in his life.

In every Instagram image, every Tweet, AB was gushing about how he’d never been happier as he cuddled with Asia like a boy who loves his mother. Intermixed with these images were many others with him in classic possessive-Beta encroaching posture – interposing arms like an affectionate headlock, while she looked away wistfully, or directly at the camera with the look of a woman who knows the Beta she’s with is deadweight to her Hypergamy.

Big Fish and the Cookie Lady

There is a larger dynamic at play in all this, one I probably could add an addendum to in my second book, Preventive Medicine. An aging Beta male, and particularly one with a notable amount of money, success, fame or status is a big fish for a necessitous woman. A woman who’s long practiced in using her sexual agency to its best advantage with men knows a prime target in an older man who’s never unplugged himself from his Blue Pill conditioning. Bourdain was one such big fish, and his Blue Pill conditioning, his eager white knighting and immediate deference to the feminine, his soul mate idealism would’ve been instantly recognizable to a 42 year old woman long accustomed to being the center of orbit for many a prior Beta.

I don’t want to call it an epidemic, but there is a set of women who look for aging men with resources to befriend and pretend they have a genuine interest in. Men with even moderate means and a Blue Pill conditioned idealism that ‘love springs eternal’ are prime targets for women who can read and assess that man’s state from years of practice. A woman who shows interest in a man who’s been starved for affection, sex and a real connection with a woman (married or not) will seem like more than an oasis in the desert. She’ll appeal to his romantic, idealistic Beta soul; a last chance at ‘true happiness’, a true miracle, as he enters his old age.

My own father was one such target for a woman we called the ‘cookie lady’.

My dad passed away from complications of Alzheimer’s/dementia before he was 72, but before his dementia had really become apparent the ‘cookie lady’ had already made a mark of my dad. My father was also what I’ve called a terminal Beta. He never unplugged to his dying day and lived a life based on the old set of books, being a good provider, dutiful, responsible and he was perpetually disappointed by the women in his life never reciprocating with their intimacy and appreciation the ‘rules’ clearly stated should happen. They never loved him in the way he thought women ought to be capable of loving him. Nevertheless, dad always clung to the (noble?) belief that if he saved his pennies and was of the highest service to women that eventually, one day, his efforts and quality would be appreciated by the right woman. He was a good example of the Savior Schema.

The ‘cookie lady’ understood all of this – all of dad’s Blue Pill conditioning, the way he thought the world and women should work, the old social contract investments, his idealism about women, everything – all of it in less than a week. She really wasn’t all that different from my step-mother in that respect, but at this late in the game, at her age, and noticing the subtle hints of cognitive degeneration in dad, the stakes were much higher for her long term security. I should also add that I would include my own mother in this schema; she’s a lovable loon, but she knew a good opportunity for security back in the 60s, so it may be my father had a knack for attracting this type of woman due to his Blue Pill idealism.

The reason we called this woman the ‘cookie lady’ was because she always brought my dad fresh baked cookies when she was trying to play into his Blue Pill end-of-life last ditch hope for happiness. We never knew her real name and if it hadn’t been for my dad getting very upset with us for preventing him from rewriting the ‘cookie lady’ into his will and power of attorney within the first month of her ‘dropping by’ we may very well have been suckered into her scam too.

Respect Your Elders

It was this incident that opened up a whole new understanding of the Red Pill and intersexual dynamics for me. I think it may be important going forward in Red Pill awareness to consider how intersexual dynamics and the Feminine Imperative affect generations of older men. My brother and I had to really watch out for similar scams to take advantage of my dad’s condition and his Blue Pill mindset that was making him a target. It wasn’t until this incident that I did a bit of research to find out how common this scam really is. In a sense it’s one more angle on the ‘stripper effect’ for younger, desperate, men for whom the feigned attention of the stripper, the kino, the deferent concern, is more seductive than her sexuality. It feeds a deeper emptiness. In a young man, in an Incel, just the possibility for that connection can become an obsession. For an older man, who’s been starved of the same (in or out of marriage) for the better part of his life, it seems like a storybook ending all his Blue Pill conditioning told him was possible. And what would a man like that give for on last shot at that idealistic ‘love’?

When Will We Face the Facts about Suicide in Older Men?

The instance of elderly men’s suicide is something not too many people want to talk about. Much of what I’ve read about it throws out a lot of feminist boilerplate about how old masculine ideals are to blame, but as expected, it uses this ‘toxic’ masculinity narrative to cover the uglier truths. Most men are Betas. Most men spend their lives wondering why all the Blue Pill hopes they sincerely believe are possible just don’t happen for them. They blame themselves, or they blame others, but they never really unplug because their existence was centered on the certainty that Blue Pill dreams come true if they can just work on the relationship harder or they made more money or if they’d only met a more perfect ‘soul mate’ in the story that is their life.

Anthony Bourdain fit this profile to the letter. And while it may not have been Asia Argento’s conscious, forethought purpose to gravy-train him, his Blue Pill, Beta, perspective had to have been apparent to her. On some level of consciousness she knew he had the capacity for self-harm as an extension of this. It’s exactly why she pleaded to the paparazzi who photographed her on the streets of Rome with her far more Alpha lover Hugo Clement, not to publish the photos. For all the guilty foreshadowing from Rose McGowan trying to convince the public who adored Bourdain about their “relationship without borders”, the truth is deathly apparent that Bourdain’s idealism believed otherwise.

Asia Argento didn’t kill Anthony Bourdain, but in what she represented to his Blue Pill mind, her actions were the catalyst that prompted his suicide. Yes, he was depressed. Yes, maybe he was on Chantix (we’ll never know now that his body was cremated unceremoniously, without a toxicology screening and against his family’s wishes). Yes, he was a hard drinker, drug addict and had suicidal thoughts before (after his 2nd divorce), but he killed himself 3 days after the pictures of his “soul mate” and Hugo Clement were published.

I think the bigger lesson here is a wake up call for older men who are still plugged into the Blue Pill Matrix as well as those who’ve become Red Pill aware much later in life. I’m of the opinion that it’s never too late to unplug and live a Red Pill aware life, but I will concede it’s a lot to lay on a guy who’s lived most of his life plugged in. Looking back on decision after decision influenced by a Blue Pill conditioning, influenced by a set of rules you believed others were playing by and then seeing the results of those decisions and wreckage that followed. It’s one thing to be “awakened while married” when you’re in your early 40s, but it’s quite another to realize Red Pill truths when you’re 70 and maybe have another good 10 years to live if you took care of yourself. That’s a rough realization.

In Positive Masculinity I stressed the importance of Red Pill aware men being mentors for boys and younger men and helping to raise them out of the influences of the Feminine Imperative’s Village, but I think it’s going to be important to mentor and protect the interests of older men as they age in a Blue Pill mindset and become Red Pill aware.

https://vigilantcitizen.com/latestn...asia-argento-anthony-bourdains-ex-girlfriend/

She was likely bipolar and deep into occult crap. She was deep into Luciferianism and being born into a family that was wealthy and privileged as a default. Though a Super-Beta doubling down in it and seeing her in the arms of a more Alpha man - then resulting in a suicide - that is more likely than some "Illuminati" murder.

https://vigilantcitizen.com/latestn...asia-argento-anthony-bourdains-ex-girlfriend/

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Nice pic also when you consider that she has a young son at that age.

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No wonder that she pleaded with the paparazzi not to publish those pictures. But ultimately Bourdain would have been disappointed with his "soulmate" anyway.
 

DChambers

Woodpecker
I'm curious as to how the hell you hang yourself from a door anyways (assuming it was a door since it was stated he hung himself in the bathroom). It seems to me that this would be a lot harder of a way to go out than to just OD, jump of a bridge, or even hang yourself off of a balcony or somewhere where you are higher up. Not to mention the guy was 6'4. Depending on the height of the door he probably could have reached the ground even if on his tiptoes. I don't know too much about suicides, but I know that in traditional hangings the noose was was positioned and the height measured in relation to a person's weight to ensure the neck broke upon falling. Otherwise a person could remain alive for hours or even days if not properly carried out. It doesn't really matter in the end I suppose. I just don't think hanging is the easiest or most natural way to commit suicide, and it seems more likely that he would have botched it than it being successful.
 
DChambers said:
I'm curious as to how the hell you hang yourself from a door anyways (assuming it was a door since it was stated he hung himself in the bathroom). It seems to me that this would be a lot harder of a way to go out than to just OD, jump of a bridge, or even hang yourself off of a balcony or somewhere where you are higher up. Not to mention the guy was 6'4. Depending on the height of the door he probably could have reached the ground even if on his tiptoes. I don't know too much about suicides, but I know that in traditional hangings the noose was was positioned and the height measured in relation to a person's weight to ensure the neck broke upon falling. Otherwise a person could remain alive for hours or even days if not properly carried out. It doesn't really matter in the end I suppose. I just don't think hanging is the easiest or most natural way to commit suicide, and it seems more likely that he would have botched it than it being successful.

The body was cremated without any toxicology analysis and against the wishes of the family, so who knows...
 

Thomas More

Hummingbird
Simeon_Strangelight said:
Rollo has an article on Bourdain who he calls Lifetime Beta and Big Fish at the same time:

https://therationalmale.com/2018/06/18/big-fish/

...snip...

I thought this was one of Rollo's strongest posts in a long time. He tends to have a dry way of writing, and he is long winded. This post really held my interest, and he's right about the extra red pill bitterness that comes when you take the pill at a quite old age.

He's also right that even at that old age, it's better to take the pill, than to just be viewed as a nice guy provider. Many older men were raised to see this as an honorable self identity, and it's a rude awaking to be in late middle age or early senior years and suddenly have your eyes opened after been sucked dry by some young hussy.

Bourdain certainly seems to fit this pattern.
 

Days of Broken Arrows

Crow
Gold Member
This thread seems to have died out in mid-June.

Since then, some more controversy has been brewing over this and Penthouse magazine (of all places) has run an excellent column about it titled "Can We Talk About Toxic Feminity?"

The column calls out Asia Argento, Rose McGowan, and the whole #metoo movement. What's interesting is that this is in a (somewhat) mainstream publication. Here is one of the best paragraphs.

"Argento was not blackmailed. She was not threatened. She had a sexual relationship with Weinstein which resulted in a transactional, consensual union, because—let’s be honest—that’s how Hollywood works. Fast-forward a few years and Argento saw a bigger opportunity: She could brand herself as a survivor."

At the end of the article, the writer posts some from a Twitter account that was shut down after it started revealing inside details of the Bourdain-Argento relationship.

The writer also reveals Argento is a single mother of two kids (which I didn't know), and now considers herself a "victim" of suicide -- a suicide that people are starting to think was caused by her. She's like the kid who kills his parents then cries to the court that he's an orphan.

Link:
https://penthouse.com/pages/asia-argento/Toxic-Femininity.php
 

CaptainChardonnay

Ostrich
Gold Member
The guy has been talking about suicide and depression for a long time, noticeably on his episode in Buenos Aires when he was talking to a psychiatrist. Apparently BA has the highest concentration of psychiatrist anywhere else in the world so he saw one on that episode and opened up. Funny how I happened to watched that episode after he committed suicide and its clear all the signs were there years ahead.

 

Robert Plant

Woodpecker
RIP Anthony Bordain. He inspired me to want to get back into travel which in a way helped get me out of my broken marriage.

Bordain's downfall was caused by emotional instability and beta male onitis. He let himself get too emotional with women he thought were cool, smart and edgy but for those of us who know game are actually dominant, manipulative shrews. In my experience, an older woman liking much younger guys is a huge red flag.

I pray for his daughter and pray that the fucked up women in his life will see their roll, repent and become more compassionate people as a result. Unfortunately, I doubt this will happen.
 
DChambers said:
I'm curious as to how the hell you hang yourself from a door anyways (assuming it was a door since it was stated he hung himself in the bathroom). It seems to me that this would be a lot harder of a way to go out than to just OD, jump of a bridge, or even hang yourself off of a balcony or somewhere where you are higher up. Not to mention the guy was 6'4. Depending on the height of the door he probably could have reached the ground even if on his tiptoes. I don't know too much about suicides, but I know that in traditional hangings the noose was was positioned and the height measured in relation to a person's weight to ensure the neck broke upon falling. Otherwise a person could remain alive for hours or even days if not properly carried out. It doesn't really matter in the end I suppose. I just don't think hanging is the easiest or most natural way to commit suicide, and it seems more likely that he would have botched it than it being successful.

It's easy, you hang yourself from the knob, with a belt.

Don't ask how I know.
 
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