RE: The Anti-Clown World Thread: In Praise Of The Disappearing Old World
I was thinking of starting a similar thread, at least from the title.
A big part of the forum is the Clown World thread. I've read a lot and posted a lot in here, but increasingly I find it to be something like masturbatory. There is a sort of perverse glee in it. When you find a new instance of clown world you first though is not, "Oh, no. Not more clown world. Can't it just go away." It is more like, "I'll post this in Clown World for a laugh".
You find a similar phenomena on the left. Whenever there is a mass shooting they are not saying, "Oh no. Not again. I pray no one was killed." It is, "Aaarrghhh. I bet it was another disgusting cisgender, white male! What was his name? The Republicans are going to have to pay for this!" Again, a very obvious glee. They don't want less of it, they have a perverse desire for it. But at least their perverse desire is backed up by using such acts to silence and ban all opposition. But with clown world all you have is the despair.
It's a phenomena I don't really understand, but I think it's something like this. When you dislike yourself you can start doing things to harm yourself. There is an odd therapy in making yourself worse, or wallowing in pity and pain. It's the easy thing to do. It terminates with self-harm, followed by suicide. Extrapolate the same out to a social level, when groups of people don't like their society they may start trying to harm it. Though the metaphysics of this are quite different to self-degradation. By attacking your society, you can at least change it.
And this is what I feel clown world is (at least in part); and the thread about women finding out they will die alone; migrant invasion; the selfie death thread; and probably numerous others.
Though it is tough as you need to understand the mechanics of clown world. It's like going no p*rn, while having to constantly watch it, trying not being affected by it.
There was a
similar thread to this a while ago.
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On the topic of this thread, I think it goes back a lot further and that a lot of the culture members grew up with was a lesser poison, leading the way for Miley Cyrus, Kesha, Gaga et. al.
It seems it really goes back to the 1910s with things such as the
flappers. The flapper culture itself was a popularisation of theater culture, which used to be held in disdain as immoral and many of the actresses were prostitutes. You can trace e-thots back to this in an ideological family tree.
The real damage came in the 1950s with the rise of subcultures like teddy boys and latter mods and rockers. This was the first time something like this had existed as a popular cultural phenomena. Prior to this there was a universal culture everyone had to live in and abide by roughly the same rules.
With the rise of subcultures groups who were disaffected from the mainstream were able to ignore the rules of society by setting themselves up in alternate value structures that they can have more of a steak in.
This has served the same function as multiculturalism. That is, the division of a society into groups that can't really deal with each other and in many cases infringe on each other.
And this is the weakness of white in the demographic sphere - that white cultures have been much more thoroughly balkanised as to not operate as a monolithic block, while others do to greater or lesser extents.
I think we need to go back quite a lot further than the 70s or 80s to find more binding culture.
A while back I became nostalgic for the song "I Think We're Alone Now" by Tiffany.
When you have been so swamped in bobs, vegane, killings and debauchery, it's easy to see this song as innocent. It should be fairly obvious, but I didn't realise it's a 17 year old girl encouraging others young people to have sex.
You can go back to the films of the period to. They also seem innocent if you've been rared into clown world. Films like Uncle Buck and Back to The Future. But these themselves were milestones on the way to clown world.
