The autism thread

Lunostrelki

Woodpecker
I have a cousin not yet 10 who is diagnosed with autism. He makes dumb jokes, doesn't speak straight, and is prone to generally irritating or awkward behavior, but he's not retarded. His fraternal twin brother is by comparison rather articulate and learned for his age. I remember how idiotic I was when I was a kid, so I wouldn't say either child is abnormal, just that one is developmentally superior.

It seems more damaging to me to label kids as mentally challenged, as if they were disabled freaks in need of constant care, than holding them to normal social expectations. It simultaneously makes lesser children feel inferior while encouraging a cancerous notion of victimhood.
 

dain_bramage

Woodpecker
I have not found too many of my fellow disabled that act like perpetual victims but I am sure there are plenty that do. I think one of the best things we can do for the next generation of autistics and disabled of all kinds is to encourage them to take charge of their own lives. To encourage them to make decisions on their own and to act in a mature manner. Standards do need to be met in some circumstances but an emphasis placed on supports to help autists join together with the rest of the community would be ideal.


I had one school counselor when I was young that spoke to me like any other person and we had very good conversations. He did have a sandbox in the room! LMAO. He passed away a long time ago but his manner of helping has stuck with me. He never talked down to me and was very attentive and calm. I still remember having lunch with him. He knew the emotional hell I was going through. He was very kind. I always preferred the company of my elders than that of my peers so when I was in the office it was a "safe space" LOL. I was physically bullied constantly, excluded, treated like a freak. I liked being away from people that hated me. The whole school environment was like being imprisoned with people that hated me so I had some tough times. My counselor was a good friend and I miss him greatly because of the hard work he put into working with me.

I think autists should be given help but not be treated like they are worthless or whatnot. I had to deal with the whole 'different' label and still do and I think that even a few good friends and good role models can work wonders. Some kids develop fast, others slow.
 

King of Monkeys

Kingfisher
Reading over this thread, I could see a more focused way to help people with autism would do wonders.

I struggled with, and still do to an extent, a speech impediment up until the end of high school. After struggling with the piss poor help of the public school system, my dad helped me to find a speech therapist. Although the process has been frustrating to say the least, it paid dividends to someone there to guide me.

I'm not sure whether or not they exist, but I think social coaches could help people with autism develop their social aptitude much faster. Just having someone there who knows what they're doing and can teach other people how to become competent at it would help people with autism a ton. Not to mention, there are plenty of millenials who are struggling to socialize as is. I think there is a real market for coaching people on social cues.
 

dain_bramage

Woodpecker
King of Monkeys said:
Reading over this thread, I could see a more focused way to help people with autism would do wonders.

I struggled with, and still do to an extent, a speech impediment up until the end of high school. After struggling with the piss poor help of the public school system, my dad helped me to find a speech therapist. Although the process has been frustrating to say the least, it paid dividends to someone there to guide me.

I'm not sure whether or not they exist, but I think social coaches could help people with autism develop their social aptitude much faster. Just having someone there who knows what they're doing and can teach other people how to become competent at it would help people with autism a ton. Not to mention, there are plenty of millenials who are struggling to socialize as is. I think there is a real market for coaching people on social cues.

Well that's good news. Sucks about the impediment but great that there was help for you. Hopeful.

For sure. That would be excellent. Then after they learn the basics, followed by more advanced information, then instruct them on game or at least being more assertive and expressive. That would be great! I think it would be worth the time to have coaches and to invest into helping autists and other disabled people with socializing. I think the earlier the better for their sake and those around them.

Have you guys seen any of the autism therapy dogs? Amazing work has been done with them. When I was a kid I would have loved to have a dog buddy to help me socialize. The dogs are very calm, gentle, and patient. Dogs are bros. I think having a therapy dog for adult autists would be very helpful to help ground them and feel a bit more at ease. Plus the kind of dogs, usually golden retrievers or labs, are usually pretty easy going and they love having a job to do. I think its worth the investment to help autists cope and thrive in environments. Better than having them become very sick in the head or disruptive. A happy autist is preferable to an angry one. Dogs are great at helping people chill out in general.
 

Mercenary

Hummingbird
TheWhiteWolf said:
slppryslp said:
Autism link to Mercury in vaccines-and now they want to inject newborns. And yes they still use Mercury despite claims to the contrary. http://www.naturalnews.com/054155_thimerosal_autism_CDC_documents.html
Yes mercury effects the brain when there’s high levels of testosterone. This could explain why most autistic people are male. And why autistic women tend to be masculine dikes



There is also mercury in some tooth fillings and in some tattoo ink.

During pregnancy tooth enamel is weakened by the fetus subtracting nutrients and calcium from the woman's body, especially from the teeth.

Women with tattoos are not only choosing to destroy and ruin the natural beauty of their bodies with these disgusting things on their skin, they could also be putting the future health of their children at risk.
 
I've heard that many famous musicians and entertainers are Aspies. Those who are in the traditional diagnosis of autism tend to excel in certain subjects and fields.

However, I think that modern Western post-feminist society doesn't bode well for anyone on the autism spectrum. Just the other day, a feminist from Australia labelled a guy a "rapist" for behaving in autistic ways like not following social norms such as asking women for high fives, intense eye contact on women.

It is also known that the female-dominated school system in the West tend to drug any student who exhibits behavior out of the norm. Male students who suffer from the traditional autism tend to be more of a vegetable and disabled than the Aspie who may not exhibit the traits of a vegetable, but still suffers from the mild effects of traditional autism.

The modern post-feminist Western society is not that kind to any male with a mental disability, Aspies included, though in many Western countries, Aspergers is not considered a mental health disability worthy of disability benefits, yet anyone behaving like an Aspie is treated poorly by the society.

In a society where everyone needs to conform to a post-feminist Western society, Aspie males are like the outlaws of Western society. If Beethoven were to be an Aspie today, he would be locked up in a psychiatric hospital for not conforming.

There is something about thinking beyond the box, typical of Aspies, which tend to be frowned upon in modern society, even with "liberals" who view a woman fucking 8-year-old male students to be a form of sexual orientation, but an Aspie looking too intently at a scantily dressed woman on the tube is interpreted as a "wapist".
 

dain_bramage

Woodpecker
RBerkley said:
I've heard that many famous musicians and entertainers are Aspies. Those who are in the traditional diagnosis of autism tend to excel in certain subjects and fields.

However, I think that modern Western post-feminist society doesn't bode well for anyone on the autism spectrum. Just the other day, a feminist from Australia labelled a guy a "rapist" for behaving in autistic ways like not following social norms such as asking women for high fives, intense eye contact on women.

It is also known that the female-dominated school system in the West tend to drug any student who exhibits behavior out of the norm. Male students who suffer from the traditional autism tend to be more of a vegetable and disabled than the Aspie who may not exhibit the traits of a vegetable, but still suffers from the mild effects of traditional autism.

The modern post-feminist Western society is not that kind to any male with a mental disability, Aspies included, though in many Western countries, Aspergers is not considered a mental health disability worthy of disability benefits, yet anyone behaving like an Aspie is treated poorly by the society.

In a society where everyone needs to conform to a post-feminist Western society, Aspie males are like the outlaws of Western society. If Beethoven were to be an Aspie today, he would be locked up in a psychiatric hospital for not conforming.

There is something about thinking beyond the box, typical of Aspies, which tend to be frowned upon in modern society, even with "liberals" who view a woman fucking 8-year-old male students to be a form of sexual orientation, but an Aspie looking too intently at a scantily dressed woman on the tube is interpreted as a "wapist".



Its horrible really. Being socially awkward or 'slow' is basically a disaster for these men. Some were brought up with a kind of pussy on the pedestal reverence fo women and told that being a good guy gets you that pussy. However that's not the case. They get none and they get labelled as a creep or worse. There's no way out for some of them.

And, I will not be surprised if a fair amount become or have become very mentally ill or traumatized by exclusion, and hatred from women that view them as scum. It goes against the narrative in their minds that believes women are generally very kind and empathetic. This is why they should not be raised by women.
 
I have done a bit of research and come to the conclusion that girls cannot be affected by autism. After watching many videos of girls on youtube who supposedly have autism I have deduced that by the fact that they can enter relationships much easier than they obviously must not be suffering from autism. I feel that these girls are just attention whores who subscribe to a madeup diagnoses an attempt to reconcile their shitty behavior. It fills me with rage when I see this it's like those who fake cancer for attention.
 

Paracelsus

Crow
Gold Member
Crossposting from the Donald Trump thread, seeing as the rumour of Barron Trump having autism is stirring some weeds.

The salient part of my post was this:

That said, guys, there is a certain elephant in the room to be considered: Barron is 10. That means Melania had him when she was 36 years old, and Trump when he was 60.

I appreciate the Don is virile and all, but it does need to be said that autism has some increased correlations with older fathers and older mothers in at least one large study. If someone would like to break down the errors with this study, which was published here, I would love to hear it.

As a bit of a straw poll -- those of you who have autism, how old were your mothers and fathers when you were born?

I should disclose some personal bias here: aside from the autism issue, I don't agree with what seems a popular line of thinking on this forum that it's acceptable to be banging out kids when you're past the age of 50 or so. Leaving aside that it's that sort of attitude in women that's causing demographic collapse in the West, it is not fucking fair on the kids to expect them to pick up your adult diapers when they're in their 20s and should be out busting ass and getting their own families in order. Risk of death due to chronic disease rises after age 60. It's not fair on your kids to die of a fucking heart attack when they're in their teens, which fucks them up for life. They did not choose to be born and did not choose their parents. That is entirely your decision.
 

Mercenary

Hummingbird
TheWhiteWolf said:
I have done a bit of research and come to the conclusion that girls cannot be affected by autism. After watching many videos of girls on youtube who supposedly have autism I have deduced that by the fact that they can enter relationships much easier than they obviously must not be suffering from autism. I feel that these girls are just attention whores who subscribe to a madeup diagnoses an attempt to reconcile their shitty behavior. It fills me with rage when I see this it's like those who fake cancer for attention.

There is a difference between girls who erroneously self diagnose for attention whoring or to "feel special", and girls who are born with this condition and it is certified in some way by a doctor or specialist.

I have never consciously met a girl who has full on autism, but definitely slept with with various girls who definitely had Aspergers.
The only real way for you to tell as a man is:

1.
To have dated and slept with many girls of different backgrounds, ages and cultures, so you know what characteristics and behaviors are common and shared by women worldwide and can spot when you have a girl who is really out of the ordinary in her mannerisms. This is something that only comes through real life experience, not reading it somewhere. It is only by trying to seduce and fuck a girl that her true inner nature comes out. Being platonic friends with, or any other sort of non intimate contact with women, makes it much harder to spot these girls as they are giving you their "public" face.

2.
To know what signs and symptoms of aspergers to look out for. If you don't know what the symptoms are the girl will just come across as weird or strange.


Watch a girl speaking or acting on youtube isn't going to tell you if she is a real aspie or not....you gotta try to game her in real life.
 

RichieP

Pelican
Paracelsus said:
I should disclose some personal bias here: aside from the autism issue, I don't agree with what seems a popular line of thinking on this forum that it's acceptable to be banging out kids when you're past the age of 50 or so. Leaving aside that it's that sort of attitude in women that's causing demographic collapse in the West, it is not fucking fair on the kids to expect them to pick up your adult diapers when they're in their 20s and should be out busting ass and getting their own families in order. Risk of death due to chronic disease rises after age 60. It's not fair on your kids to die of a fucking heart attack when they're in their teens, which fucks them up for life. They did not choose to be born and did not choose their parents. That is entirely your decision.

Good point, but maybe if the guy already has older kids, it's OK. They will presumably take more responsibility for the care later on.

Also we're all living longer now, and you can compress morbidity (i.e. stay healthy for a longer portion of your life) with great diet and lifestyle. Hell, just taking the right vitamins and cutting out sugar can slash the risks of the major chronic diseases.

I think many parents don't consider this stuff *at all* though, and I agree that they should.
 

Rigsby

Pelican
Gold Member
TheWhiteWolf said:
I have done a bit of research and come to the conclusion that girls cannot be affected by autism.

Yo good:


If you had done any research at all, you would have not come to this fact. The fact you have played so many of my homies here, suckering them in, really fucks me off.

I think I know who you are. I might be wrong. Hit me up homie, and we will exchange addresses. Lady.

If you aren't who I think you are, then you are still a piss-taker.

You ask a lot of big questions, but for such a 'big-asker' you sure don't respond to those that have laid their personal lives bare on the line for you. Rude if nothing else.

Am I autistic? Did I get diagnosed? Mmmm... let's see.


So many enemies. So much paranoia. And so much laughter from those that sowed it.

"I got a colour TV so I can see, the Nicks play Basketball".

"Hotel, Motel".

And it's on and on and on...

This is the beautiful thing about cancer, about how when you spread it, it goes everywhere, and pretty soon you can take over.

This thread need to get serious.

And all of y'all that have autism need to take a step back and remember how those that don't have it, love to take the piss out of y'all that do.

And those that have autistic kids, but aren't autistic yourselves, good on you. Just don't give information out too lightly.

My snidey spidey sense is doing overtime with this one. I want to check out the OP first.

I'm probably a bad minded bastard, you know, like someone who had the piss taken out of him for almost his whole lifetime, you know, like someone that might be on the 'spectrum'. Then again, maybe not.

Fine fellows of RVF, do not give your information over so easy. This is Gold to an enemy and very sensitive information.

OP, hit me up, give me your credentials, and I will reward you on this subject in spades, and post a public apology also. Till then.

I really don't want to see any one get burned on this.
 

Rigsby

Pelican
Gold Member
TheWhiteWolf said:
slppryslp said:
Autism link to Mercury in vaccines-and now they want to inject newborns. And yes they still use Mercury despite claims to the contrary. http://www.naturalnews.com/054155_thimerosal_autism_CDC_documents.html
Yes mercury effects the brain when there’s high levels of testosterone. This could explain why most autistic people are male. And why autistic women tend to be masculine dikes

Autistic women tend to be masculine dikes?

Maybe you really are autistic. Coz you are making a real twat of yourself here, with little regard to social consequences. But no autistic person would be so bold.

I call Troll.

Autistic people live in a world of confusion. They do not make such certain distinctions between male/female.

Would you like to divide our society? Make fools of us?

Autistic women are some of the most delicate flowers you would ever (not) get your hands on. We hate bitches here. We don't hate women.

"most autistic people are male"

GTFO.
 
I don't see anything wrong that my statement that most autistic people are male is true. Autism and Aspergers has a 10 to 1 male to female ratio. and the autistic women I've met tend to come off as very bitchy and not very feminine. Oh yes I do have autism it's been a problem I've struggled with my entire life.
 
i have the theory on why autistic women can get dates a lot better than autistic men i theorize that men are just nicer to autistic people then females and willing to overlook flaws in people to a greater extent than females. Compassion and empathy are traditionally associated with females but in reality they are male traits
 

Paracelsus

Crow
Gold Member
TheWhiteWolf said:
i have the theory on why autistic women can get dates a lot better than autistic men i theorize that men are just nicer to autistic people then females and willing to overlook flaws in people to a greater extent than females. Compassion and empathy are traditionally associated with females but in reality they are male traits

It's much simpler than that:

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