The Baby Boomer Question

Elipe said:
@FrancisK thumbed down @DanielH's post where Daniel was talking about being potentially economically cut off while having children on the way.

That is the boomer way. Screw the 'lennials, they dissed my generation so let's cut off their entire livelihood and drive them into poverty because they won't do the thing that lets me live 10 seconds longer.

What is the matter with you, @FrancisK? My first instinct was to think about donating to @DanielH to help him stay afloat until he can get back on his feet, and here you are just thumbing down his post because he hurt your fee-fees with a fairly even-handed treatment of the boomer generation that even cast a few of them in a positive light (Gosar and Trump).

It's also fascinating to note that the boomer generation killed charity by turning it into a corrupt profit-generating machinery.
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I am a millennial, the thumbs down obviously wasn’t for that part but nice try with the victim mentality, I took it down to save your feelings don’t worry.

But you’re the one getting upset over likes but then talking about my “fee fees”….? Odd…


Bunch of supposedly Christian adult conservative “strong red pill” men lamenting their parents because they didn’t coddle them enough and life didn’t turn out how they wanted because they weren’t handed enough by them. Don’t tell me the crap about who boomers voted for, our computer age brainwashing is what destroyed society more than anything.

This is all clown world right here….
 
FrancisK said:
I am a millennial, the thumbs down obviously wasn’t for that part but nice try with the victim mentality, I took it down to save your feelings don’t worry.

But you’re the one getting upset over likes but then talking about my “fee fees”….? Odd…


Bunch of supposedly Christian adult conservative “strong red pill” men lamenting their parents because they didn’t coddle them enough and life didn’t turn out how they wanted because they weren’t handed enough by them. Don’t tell me the crap about who boomers voted for, our computer age brainwashing is what destroyed society more than anything.

This is all clown world right here….
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  1. One cannot fight the boomer by positive means. He is negative, and this negative must be erased from the American system, or boomers will forever corrupt it.
  2. One cannot discuss the boomer question with boomers. One can hardly prove to a person that one has the duty to render him harmless.
  3. One cannot allow boomers the same means one would give an honest opponent, for he is no honorable opponent. The boomer will use generosity and nobility only to trap his enemy.
  4. The boomer has nothing to say about American questions. He is a consoomer who only enjoys the fruits of his children, opportunities that he always abuses.
  5. The so-called religious morality of the boomer is no morality at all, rather an encouragement to betrayal. Therefore, they have no claim to protection from the state.
  6. The boomer is not smarter than we are, rather only a product of his time. His system cannot be defeated economically — he follows entirely different moral principles than we do. It can only be broken through financial means.
  7. A boomer cannot insult the younger generation. Boomer slanders are but badges of honor for a younger opponent of the boomers.
  8. The more a millennial, zoomer, or silent opposes the boomer, the more valuable he is. If someone is attacked by the boomers, that is a sure sign of his virtue. He who is not persecuted by the boomers, or who is praised by them, is useless and dangerous.
  9. The boomer evaluates millennial questions from the boomer standpoint. As a result, the opposite of what he says must be true.
  10. One must either affirm or reject boomerism. He who defends the boomers harms his own children. One can only be a boomer lackey or a boomer opponent. Opposing the boomer a matter of personal survival.
 
Millions of young men are having their livelihoods taken away right now, and your interpretation of the situation is:

FrancisK said:
Bunch of supposedly Christian adult conservative “strong red pill” men lamenting their parents because they didn’t coddle them enough and life didn’t turn out how they wanted because they were handed enough by them.

This is clown world right here….
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Okay. This is why we lose, because of the hyper individualism on our side. The strong, being put into a weak position by an evil empire, are mocked by the likes of @FrancisK . Meanwhile @Elipe , whom you indirectly refer to as "supposedly Christian" minutes before your comment sends me a DM with a prayer. That doesn't sound "supposedly Christian," that sounds resoundingly Christian.
 
The Beast1 said:
  1. One cannot fight the boomer by positive means. He is negative, and this negative must be erased from the American system, or boomers will forever corrupt it.
  2. One cannot discuss the boomer question with boomers. One can hardly prove to a person that one has the duty to render him harmless.
  3. One cannot allow boomers the same means one would give an honest opponent, for he is no honorable opponent. The boomer will use generosity and nobility only to trap his enemy.
  4. The boomer has nothing to say about American questions. He is a consoomer who only enjoys the fruits of his children, opportunities that he always abuses.
  5. The so-called religious morality of the boomer is no morality at all, rather an encouragement to betrayal. Therefore, they have no claim to protection from the state.
  6. The boomer is not smarter than we are, rather only a product of his time. His system cannot be defeated economically — he follows entirely different moral principles than we do. It can only be broken through financial means.
  7. A boomer cannot insult the younger generation. Boomer slanders are but badges of honor for a millennial opponent of the boomers.
  8. The more a millennial, zoomer, or silent opposes the boomer, the more valuable he is. If someone is attacked by the boomers, that is a sure sign of his virtue. He who is not persecuted by the boomers, or who is praised by them, is useless and dangerous.
  9. The boomer evaluates millennial questions from the boomer standpoint. As a result, the opposite of what he says must be true.
  10. One must either affirm or reject boomerism. He who defends the boomers harms his own children. One can only be a boomer lackey or a boomer opponent. Opposing the boomer a matter of personal survival.
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What are those, your victim hood commandments? Did BLM write that for white men and you just changed the words around?
 
DanielH said:
Millions of young men are having their livelihoods taken away right now, and your interpretation of the situation is:



Okay. This is why we lose, because of the hyper individualism on our side. The strong, being put into a weak position by an evil empire, are mocked by the likes of @FrancisK . Meanwhile @Elipe , who you indirectly refer to as "supposedly Christian" minutes before your comment sends me a DM with a prayer. That doesn't sound "supposedly Christian," that sounds resoundingly Christian.
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I’m not mocking anyone I’m telling you what is being written here in a context that isn’t a pity party so maybe you’ll see that and look at it in a different light. Despair is not useful
 
FrancisK said:
Bunch of supposedly Christian adult conservative “strong red pill” men lamenting their parents because they didn’t coddle them enough and life didn’t turn out how they wanted because they weren’t handed enough by them.
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So is every generation just supposed to rediscover fire, reinvent the wheel, rediscover bronze, rediscover iron, rediscover electricity on their own?

Because we were coddled by our parents who gave us shelter from the elements that they didn't build themselves, who gave us warmth in the winter and cool air in the hot summer with HVAC systems they didn't build themselves, who gave or sold us their motor vehicles that they didn't build themselves. Inheritance is good. Inheritance is a godly concept, God believes in it. Children absolutely should benefit from what their parents built.

That includes a healthy economy geared around giving people the means of making a good living and living in fellowship with their neighbors. I'm one of the lucky few millennials that do well, and a lot of that was because I was blessed with boomer parents that didn't do the typical boomer things. They helped ensure that I would be in a good, secure position to raise a family, blessing them with grandchildren. I love them and I will give credit to them for what I have. They sacrificed a lot for me. I will make sacrifices for my kids too, and the coming times herald some really hard sacrifices on my part. I will not be selfish and squander my inheritance for myself. I will not cut down the family tree that produces fruits for my children. When that tree shrivels up, I will give what few fruits I can to my children and less for myself, while planting the seeds. And I will be joyful in doing so. I will not be grudgeful about my children benefiting from my inheritance.
 
Elipe said:
So is every generation just supposed to rediscover fire, reinvent the wheel, rediscover bronze, rediscover iron, rediscover electricity on their own?

Because we were coddled by our parents who gave us shelter from the elements that they didn't build themselves, who gave us warmth in the winter and cool air in the hot summer with HVAC systems they didn't build themselves, who gave or sold us their motor vehicles that they didn't build themselves. Inheritance is good. Inheritance is a godly concept, God believes in it. Children absolutely should benefit from what their parents built.

That includes a healthy economy geared around giving people the means of making a good living and living in fellowship with their neighbors. I'm one of the lucky few millennials that do well, and a lot of that was because I was blessed with boomer parents that didn't do the typical boomer things. They helped ensure that I would be in a good, secure position to raise a family, blessing them with grandchildren. I love them and I will give credit to them for what I have. They sacrificed a lot for me. I will make sacrifices for my kids too, and the coming times herald some really hard sacrifices on my part. I will not be selfish and squander my inheritance for myself. I will not cut down the family tree that produces fruits for my children. When that tree shrivels up, I will give what few fruits I can to my children and less for myself, while planting the seeds. And I will be joyful in doing so. I will not be grudgeful about my children benefiting from my inheritance.
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Not interested in the dramatics but in regards to the economy there has been more opportunity the past 5 years than there has ever been in history. I’ve written long posts about in the thread about people who can’t find a job trying to give them inspiration and just like here it fell on deaf ears because it’s easier to be a victim.

The local fast food joint is hiring at $20 an hour.

You’re taking what I’m saying as an attack when it’s not, I want my brothers to be doing well and none of this garbage helps with that on any level. You want to be victims go for it but trust me it doesn’t get you anywhere.
 
FrancisK said:
Not interested in the dramatics
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Because you have no argument.
FrancisK said:
The local fast food joint is hiring at $20 an hour.
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That's a lot of money for a fast food joint. When I worked as a student employee in a professional field, I made $8 an hour. They must really be desperate. I wonder why they're desperate to find help. It can't have something to do with a certain fake plague, could it? Same plague that's now turning out mandates for a poisonous myocarditis shot where the myocarditis is a greater risk for the people in the age-group that tends to work at fast food joints?
 
FrancisK said:
Not interested in the dramatics but in regards to the economy there has been more opportunity the past 5 years than there has ever been in history.
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FrancisK said:
The local fast food joint is hiring at $20 an hour.
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:squintlol::laughter::squintlol:

For most of the history of this country, let alone the world, you could go into the woods and start an enterprise or build a home out of nothing but trees and $7 dollars of equipment without needing a permit or worrying about zoning laws and you wouldn't be competing with illegal immigrants and Blackrock, what in the world are you talking about? By the way, the Homestead Act was in effect in the lower 48 until 1976, prime boomer territory. Now all the land is controlled.
 
Elipe said:
Because you have no argument.

That's a lot of money for a fast food joint. When I worked as a student employee in a professional field, I made $8 an hour. They must really be desperate. I wonder why they're desperate to find help. It can't have something to do with a certain fake plague, could it? Same plague that's now turning out mandates for a poisonous myocarditis shot where the myocarditis is a greater risk for the people in the age-group that tends to work at fast food joints?
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No because I don’t care about some worthless philosophical discussion about how someone else to blame for all of society’s woes.

The fast food job is obviously just a dumb example but it definitely plays when someone says there is no opportunity, coofid or not.
 
DanielH said:
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:squintlol::laughter::squintlol:

For most of the history of this country, let alone the world, you could go into the woods and start an enterprise or build a home out of nothing but trees and $7 dollars of equipment without needing a permit or worrying about zoning laws and you wouldn't be competing with illegal immigrants and Blackrock, what in the world are you talking about? By the way, the Homestead Act was in effect in the lower 48 until 1976, prime boomer territory. Now all the land is controlled.
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Now you’re talking about building homes in the woods?

I’m out, good luck fellas…trust me victim mentality doesn’t get you anywhere it just holds you back.
 
FrancisK said:
No because I don’t care about some worthless philosophical discussion about how someone else to blame for all of society’s woes.

The fast food job is obviously just a dumb example but it definitely plays when someone says there is no opportunity, coofid or not.
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$20 an hour isn't going to provide for a family with current inflation rates. It is good money for a high school kid or a college kid just wanting to supplement their lifestyle.

As for middle class jobs, they are disappearing as the country gets flooded with High IQ immigrants and/or H-1B visa workers. And even if there are openings, if you are an Asian Male or a White Male, you will be the last to be hired and the first to be let go when layoffs are needed.
 
FrancisK said:
Now you’re talking about building homes in the woods?

I’m out, good luck fellas…trust me victim mentality doesn’t get you anywhere it just holds you back.
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No actual American would scoff at the idea of building a home in the woods.

It's strange to me you insult us for being victim crybabies and then laugh at the idea of building your own house in the woods while suggesting working in fast food for $20 an hour. Not an American thing to do.
 
FrancisK said:
I wrote this earlier in the thread, hopefully it helps someone get past this pity party garbage….


Post in thread 'The Boomer Question'
https://www.rooshvforum.com/threads/the-boomer-question.36321/post-1474722
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Dude, get a load of this guy. 1st gen immigrant thinking he has it good. No wonder you're so naive.

Let me give it to you straight, after the 40s, any marginally intelligent immigrant could achieve what you and your immigrant family did with HALF the effort and at twice the speed.

The fact that they keep this country's immigrant flood gates open is to fool folks like you into thinking you're getting it good when the people who have lived in this country for several generations know how much better it used to be.

Makes sense, because if you flood a country with immigrants they'll never know how good it used to be and continue to vote for the same crap that precipitates the decline.
 
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The Beast1 said:
Dude, get a load of this guy. 1st gen immigrant thinking he has it good. No wonder you're so naive.

Let me give it to you straight, after the 40s, any marginally intelligent immigrant could achieve what you and your immigrants family did with HALF the effort and at twice the speed.

The fact that they keep the country's immigrant flood gates open is to fool folks like you into thinking you're getting it good when the people who have lived in this country for several generations know how much better it used to be.

Makes sense, because if you flood a country with immigrants they'll never know how good it used to be and continue to vote for the same crap that precipitates the decline.
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I think often of the life my Grandparents lived v. myself. They had time for Church, they had time for friends, they had time for family. They "sacrificed" by waiting until their mid 20's to get married. They worked hard, but always had time for a social life, for family, for friends, for community, and Church. And when they passed away they passed on a nice investment to my parents. They had new cars, a nice house, nice clothes, a good life to be proud of and I am glad they lived such a blessed life. They certainly were not lazy, they worked very hard, just not quite like I am forced to do.

I am now in my mid-40's. I have never had time for any of those good things. When I actually get free time I use it to rest or browse this forum or maybe veg out to some 1980's/90's TV show forgetting how miserable the world is around me. TBH, lately I will wake up at my early time and just go back to sleep, because sleep is more comfortable than facing reality today.

I couldn't afford the things my grandparents had in their 20's, after 20+ years of working 7 days a week and living like a college student. In fact, what my grandparents had is my dream. It is what keeps me going. That maybe someday too I can have a good life. I don't know if it is a fool's errand or not, but I don't have much quit in me so I keep going and stay as positive as I can. There have been some benefits to my life, but I would trade all of it in a heartbeat to have been 50 years older and lived in the real America and not this disaster we have today. And I know very well that as bad as things are today, how much worse they will be in 10/15/20 years. I truly weep for the children in the USA, the future they face is beyond dismal.
 
DanielH said:
No actual American would scoff at the idea of building a home in the woods.

It's strange to me you insult us for being victim crybabies and then laugh at the idea of building your own house in the woods while suggesting working in fast food for $20 an hour. Not an American thing to do.
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I’m not laughing at actually having a house in the woods my family does own one and it’s lovely, I’m laughing at the idea of actually doing it in 2021 for $7 worth of tools as you said.

The past is dead and it’s not coming back, time to enter the real world. You guys made me out to be a jerk here just because I’m pushing back on a pity party….despair has no value to your life.
 
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Ah, Francis is a first generation American. Makes sense. He naturally compares the America of today to whatever place his family fled. Yes, in America today there is more opportunity than Zimbabwe or whatever other shit hole you want to compare it to. Heritage Americans compare America of today to America of yesterday and the results speak for themselves. My great grandpa was a milk man in Chicago and lived comfortably and my grandpa retired to FL at age 55.
 
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